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« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2012, 05:03:36 PM »

My favorite part of responding to your posts with FACTS...is your inability to respond.  You are like a young child who goes to school trying to impress his little buddies by attempting to repeat what he heard his parents say at dinner.

What "fact"?? seriously, youtubes and out of context articles you call "facts". Listen son, you have FOUR fucking people DEAD because this asshole tried to cover his ass and up until today he was denying it all along. What part of this thread are NOT comprehending??
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« Reply #51 on: October 24, 2012, 05:08:39 PM »

With all of the proven lies that Obama and his administration have conjured up even to this very day, and still covering up the attacks in Bengazi, wouldn't one quesi the integrity of those who still vote for him. I mean, if they still back an out right bald faced lyer such as Obama and his cohorts, how would they conduct they're own lives. IMO, especially in business, I would have a hard time trusting. This is a serious question.

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« Reply #52 on: October 24, 2012, 05:17:49 PM »

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« Reply #53 on: October 24, 2012, 05:22:01 PM »

Listen son, you have FOUR fucking people DEAD because this asshole tried to cover his ass and up until today he was denying it all along. What part of this thread are NOT comprehending??

Wow Coach, you can NOT even comprehend why or what you meant in the very thread you started.

1)  Title of the thread is "Integrity."

2) You ask the following questions in the thread YOU started:

With all of the proven lies that Obama and his administration have conjured up even to this very day, and still covering up the attacks in Bengazi, 1.wouldn't one quesi the integrity of those who still vote for him. I mean, if they still back an out right bald faced lyer such as Obama and his cohorts, 2.how would they conduct they're own lives. IMO, especially in business, I would have a hard time trusting. This is a serious question.

Now reread what YOU wrote above...so YOU can try to understand what YOU asked people to respond to.







As a postscript, the videos of candidates actually speaking...presents facts regarding what they stated/stand for.  As a matter of fact, video clips are more credible than merely typing the quotes.
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« Reply #54 on: October 24, 2012, 05:26:46 PM »

It's funny that you think the average voter in the US has any clue about who they're even voting for and why. Less than 1% even know or care about the political reasons. 99% just vote for the "most popular."
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« Reply #55 on: October 24, 2012, 06:20:19 PM »

Wow Coach, you can NOT even comprehend why or what you meant in the very thread you started.

1)  Title of the threayurd is "Integrity."

2) You ask the following questions in the thread YOU started:

Now reread what YOU wrote above...so YOU can try to understand what YOU asked people to respond to.







As a postscript, the videos of candidates actually speaking...presents facts regarding what they stated/stand for.  As a matter of fact, video clips are more credible than merely typing the quotes.

Youre not the brightest are you. Obama all but pulled the trigger himself in that attack. Hrs just as responsible for those deaths just as much as the ones who actually killed them ....and he's still denying it even with concrete proof.
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« Reply #56 on: October 24, 2012, 07:04:03 PM »

  NO Integrity In USA. 9/11 makes me throw up.
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« Reply #57 on: October 24, 2012, 07:20:21 PM »

Listen son, you have FOUR fucking people DEAD because this asshole tried to cover his ass and up until today he was denying it all along. What part of this thread are NOT comprehending??

Wow Coach, you can NOT even comprehend why or what you meant in the very thread you started.

1)  Title of the thread is "Integrity."

2) You ask the following questions in the thread YOU started:

With all of the proven lies that Obama and his administration have conjured up even to this very day, and still covering up the attacks in Bengazi, 1.wouldn't one quesi the integrity of those who still vote for him. I mean, if they still back an out right bald faced lyer such as Obama and his cohorts, 2.how would they conduct they're own lives. IMO, especially in business, I would have a hard time trusting. This is a serious question.



So, you concede to the fact that YOU misunderstood YOUR QUESTION and first post to the members of getbig in YOUR THREAD?


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« Reply #58 on: October 24, 2012, 07:20:58 PM »

Youre not the brightest are you. Obama all but pulled the trigger himself in that attack. Hrs just as responsible for those deaths just as much as the ones who actually killed them ....and he's still denying it even with concrete proof.


Coach,

That sounds horrific if true!  But, I am still not seeing any credible citation to back up your allegation. 


Can you post some credible evidence that "Obama all but pulled the trigger himself in that attack?"
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« Reply #59 on: October 24, 2012, 09:23:57 PM »


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That sounds horrific if true!  But, I am still not seeing any credible citation to back up your allegation. 


Can you post some credible evidence that "Obama all but pulled the trigger himself in that attack?"

Reuters) - Officials at the White House and State Department were advised two hours after attackers assaulted the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11 that an Islamic militant group had claimed credit for the attack, official emails show.

The emails, obtained by Reuters from government sources not connected with U.S. spy agencies or the State Department and who requested anonymity, specifically mention that the Libyan group called Ansar al-Sharia had asserted responsibility for the attacks.

The brief emails also show how U.S. diplomats described the attack, even as it was still under way, to Washington.

U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were killed in the Benghazi assault, which President Barack Obama and other U.S. officials ultimately acknowledged was a "terrorist" attack carried out by militants with suspected links to al Qaeda affiliates or sympathizers.

Administration spokesmen, including White House spokesman Jay Carney, citing an unclassified assessment prepared by the CIA, maintained for days that the attacks likely were a spontaneous protest against an anti-Muslim film.

While officials did mention the possible involvement of "extremists," they did not lay blame on any specific militant groups or possible links to al Qaeda or its affiliates until intelligence officials publicly alleged that on September 28.

There were indications that extremists with possible al Qaeda connections were involved, but also evidence that the attacks could have erupted spontaneously, they said, adding that government experts wanted to be cautious about pointing fingers prematurely.

U.S. intelligence officials have emphasized since shortly after the attack that early intelligence reporting about the attack was mixed.

Spokesmen for the White House and State Department had no immediate response to requests for comments on the emails.

MISSIVES FROM LIBYA

The records obtained by Reuters consist of three emails dispatched by the State Department's Operations Center to multiple government offices, including addresses at the White House, Pentagon, intelligence community and FBI, on the afternoon of September 11.

The first email, timed at 4:05 p.m. Washington time - or 10:05 p.m. Benghazi time, 20-30 minutes after the attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission allegedly began - carried the subject line "U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi Under Attack" and the notation "SBU", meaning "Sensitive But Unclassified."

The text said the State Department's regional security office had reported that the diplomatic mission in Benghazi was "under attack. Embassy in Tripoli reports approximately 20 armed people fired shots; explosions have been heard as well."

The message continued: "Ambassador Stevens, who is currently in Benghazi, and four ... personnel are in the compound safe haven. The 17th of February militia is providing security support."

A second email, headed "Update 1: U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi" and timed 4:54 p.m. Washington time, said that the Embassy in Tripoli had reported that "the firing at the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi had stopped and the compound had been cleared." It said a "response team" was at the site attempting to locate missing personnel.

A third email, also marked SBU and sent at 6:07 p.m. Washington time, carried the subject line: "Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack."

The message reported: "Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli."

While some information identifying recipients of this message was redacted from copies of the messages obtained by Reuters, a government source said that one of the addresses to which the message was sent was the White House Situation Room, the president's secure command post.

Other addressees included intelligence and military units as well as one used by the FBI command center, the source said.

It was not known what other messages were received by agencies in Washington from Libya that day about who might have been behind the attacks.

Intelligence experts caution that initial reports from the scene of any attack or disaster are often inaccurate.

By the morning of September 12, the day after the Benghazi attack, Reuters reported that there were indications that members of both Ansar al-Sharia, a militia based in the Benghazi area, and al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, the North African affiliate of al Qaeda's faltering central command, may have been involved in organizing the attacks.

One U.S. intelligence official said that during the first classified briefing about Benghazi given to members of Congress, officials "carefully laid out the full range of sparsely available information, relying on the best analysis available at the time."

The official added, however, that the initial analysis of the attack that was presented to legislators was mixed.

"Briefers said extremists were involved in attacks that appeared spontaneous, there may have been a variety of motivating factors, and possible links to groups such as (al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb and Ansar al-Sharia) were being looked at closely," the official said.

(Additional reporting by Susan Cornwell; Editing by Mary Milliken and Jim Loney)
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« Reply #60 on: October 24, 2012, 09:28:42 PM »

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57538689/emails-detail-unfolding-benghazi-attack-on-sept-11/?tag=AverageMixRelated


CNSNews.com) - On Sept. 11, 2012, just two hours after the State Department first began notifying government agencies back in Washington--including the White House--that the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi was under attack by armed men, State sent out an email that went to at least two people in the White House that said the group Ansar al-Sharia had claimed responsibility for the attack.

The email, which was sent from a State Department address at 6:07 PM on Sept. 11, 2012, was obtained by CBS News and posted online by the news agency in a PDF file. This email and others posted by CBS News had certain elements redacted--particularly the exact identities of the person who sent it and the persons who received it.

The email sent at 6:07 P.M. on Sept. 11 was sent by a person using an @state.gov email address. The subject line said: "Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack (SBU)"

The body of the email said: "(SBU) Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli."

Among the addresses of those who received this email are two that include the tag "@nss.eop.gov," a White House email address. "EOP" stands for "Executive Office of the President." The names of the two recipients in the Executive Office of the President who received the email have been redacted.

Someone at the State Department sent an original email about the terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate at 4:05 PM on Sept. 11, 2012. This email was sent from an address tagged "@state.gov." The name of the person who sent the email is redacted.

This email, too, was sent to two people in the Executive Office of the President. It was also sent to at least 32 individuals at the State Department itself, a person in the office of the Director of National Intelligence ("@dni.gov"), a person at the FBI ("@ic.fbi.gov"), and a person in the Defense Department ("@pentagon.mil").

All the names of the recipients in these federal agencies are redacted.

The subject line of this 4:05 PM email sent by State 9/11/12: "U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi Under Attack (SBU)."

The email said nothing about a YouTube video. The email said nothing about a spontaneous demonstration.

The text of the email said: "(SBU) The Regional Security Officer reports the diplomatic mission is under attack. Embassy Tripoli reports approximately 20 armed people fired shots; explosives have been heard as well. Ambassador Stevens, who is currently in Benghazi, and four COM [Chief of Mission] personnel are in the compound safe haven. The 17th of February militia is providing security support. The Operations Center will provide updates as available."

Forty-nine minutes later--at 4:54 PM on 9/11/12--the State Department sent out a follow-up email to the same set of recipients, including the two in the Executive Office of the President.

The subject line on this second email said: "Update 1: U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi (SBU)"

The text said: "(SBU) Embassy Tripoli reports the firing at the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi has stopped and the compound has been cleared. A response team is on the site attempting to locate COM [Chief of Mission] personnel."

This email also said nothing about a YouTube video or a spontaneous demonstration.

The third and last email obtained by CBS News was sent by the State Department at 6:07 PM on 9/11/12--or just two hours and two minutes after the first email giving initial notification of the attack. This email went to a somewhat different group of recipients--but still included two persons in the Executive Office of the President and someone at the FBI.

The subject line on this email said: "Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack (SBU)."

The text said: "(SBU) Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli."

Again, this email made no mention of a YouTube video or a spontaneous demonstration in Benghazi.

 http://cnsnews.com/news/article/state-dept-email-white-house-607-pm-91112-ansar-al-sharia-claims-responsibility



He decided to go to bed while this was going on. There were troops within 400 miles of the compound that could have been called in....he went to bed instead.
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« Reply #61 on: October 24, 2012, 09:51:45 PM »

With all of the proven lies that Obama and his administration have conjured up even to this very day, and still covering up the attacks in Bengazi, wouldn't one quesi the integrity of those who still vote for him. I mean, if they still back an out right bald faced lyer such as Obama and his cohorts, how would they conduct they're own lives. IMO, especially in business, I would have a hard time trusting. This is a serious question.
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shut your mouth you give a bad name to christians and "integrity".
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« Reply #62 on: October 24, 2012, 09:59:53 PM »

All politicians lie.
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Therefore,__________ lies.
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« Reply #63 on: October 24, 2012, 10:00:36 PM »

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« Reply #64 on: October 24, 2012, 10:01:28 PM »

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« Reply #65 on: October 24, 2012, 10:20:34 PM »

Youre not the brightest are you. Obama all but pulled the trigger himself in that attack. Hrs just as responsible for those deaths just as much as the ones who actually killed them ....and he's still denying it even with concrete proof.

Coach - sometimes you make some valid arguments...

But then sometimes you say an extreme statements like that above which diminishes your credibility and makes it hard to get behind you bro!



People need to stop acting like their supported candidate (regardless of which side) is the holy savior and that the opposition is the devils child sent from hell!
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« Reply #66 on: October 24, 2012, 10:24:10 PM »

Coach - sometimes you make some valid arguments...

But then sometimes you say an extreme statements like that above which diminishes your credibilminity and makes it hard to get behind you bro!



People need to stop acting like their supported candidate (regardless of which side) is the holy savior and that the opposition is the devils child sent from hell!

Would every candidate set someone up to get killed?
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« Reply #67 on: October 24, 2012, 11:30:20 PM »

Coach,

You state as fact the following extremely serious allegations:

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Obama all but pulled the trigger himself in that attack.


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Would every candidate set someone up to get killed?


Neither of your articles make ANY of your above allegations.  



I will ask again: do you have any credible sources that make the allegations you claim above...based on fact?
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« Reply #68 on: October 24, 2012, 11:40:53 PM »

Coach,

You state as fact the following extremely serious allegations:

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2.

Neither of your articles make ANY of your above allegations.  



I will ask again: do you have any credible sources that make the allegations you claim above...based on fact?

I thought I just missed those parts because I skimmed through them and English isn't my first language. lol
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« Reply #69 on: October 25, 2012, 12:02:45 AM »

With all of the proven lies that Obama and his administration have conjured up even to this very day, and still covering up the attacks in Bengazi, wouldn't one quesi the integrity of those who still vote for him. I mean, if they still back an out right bald faced lyer such as Obama and his cohorts, how would they conduct they're own lives. IMO, especially in business, I would have a hard time trusting. This is a serious question.

If Romney is elected President on November 6th, how long do you think it will take you (and the rest of the country) to discover all his lies?

Politicians pander to the public for votes. The main job of politician is to get elected and then to stay elected. You were expecting more?

I am campaigning on behalf of local politicians in Oregon. It is obvious that even the candidates I like have been carefully scripted to say what their campaign managers believe will get them elected or keep them in the office they currently hold.

What I have noticed is that the younger the candidate the more idealistic and committed to those ideals they seem. Be wary of some lawyers who seek office though, they often have other agendas.
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« Reply #70 on: October 25, 2012, 03:36:27 AM »

Would every candidate set someone up to get killed?
Yes, definitely, every single one, and you already know it. So what's your point?
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« Reply #71 on: October 25, 2012, 08:15:08 AM »

Yes, definitely, every single one, and you already know it. So what's your point?

Bam!  Checkmate!  He got you, Coach!
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« Reply #72 on: October 25, 2012, 10:38:07 AM »

Bam!  Checkmate!  He got you, Coach!

Ok, whatever you say chief.


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« Reply #73 on: October 25, 2012, 10:39:43 AM »

They did watch them die after refusing to send help. Reports are coming out that our two former Navy SEALs held off 200 cowardly terrorists for two hours, killing 80. A Marine contingent was only one hour away. The Obama Administration let them die. They let Ambassador Chris Stevens be raped, murdered and his body dragged through the streets. They let Tyrone Woods and Glen Dohert give their last f
ull measure of devotion in defense of the Americans still in the consulate. And they let Sean Smith, a former Air Force Captain be murdered as well. I will never forget the chilling message posted by Sean Smith, "I think we're going to die tonight." They lifted not a single finger to help our consulate under attack, and these men died. Don't look to the Obama Administration, let alone Barack Obama, for answers. They are in full CYA mode. But I ask you to remember the four men who were brutally murdered. Never forget. Standard op in this scenarios is to go in with all necessary force to protect our people & assets - this has been demonstrated time& again thru American history. For this utter collapse - someone had to say 'No - don't go.' Petraeus had to know. Clinton had to know. Obama had to know. And they let them die. Obama just went to bed-he had to go to Vegas for a fundraiser in the morning.




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« Reply #74 on: October 25, 2012, 10:57:29 AM »

Coach,

You state as fact the following extremely serious allegations:

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Obama all but pulled the trigger himself in that attack.


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Would every candidate set someone up to get killed?


NONE of YOUR articles make ANY of YOUR above allegations. 




Do you have any credible sources that make the allegations you claim above...based on fact?
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