Would American Christians vote for Jesus?

[tonymctones]

Actually, that's exactly my point.

They SAY they believe in the tenants of the Christian faith, but they don't practice them in any real sense.

Thanks for the help.

And you base this on the premise bc they don't want the govt telling them what to do they don't practice this?

Brilliant logic brainchild

Again privately conservatives give more time and money to the poor

[whork]

Christians tend to be conservative and as proven through study conservatives give more time and money to charities then liberals...sorry to burst your bubble whork

Yes thats because conservatives claim to be christian.
I can claim to be a green elephant it doesnt make it true.

[garebear]

Ah, Jesus existed. Even Jews recognize it as such. The question that divides Jews and Christians is whether he was God or not.

Having said that, he did exist.

And as a teacher he had disciples. Those disciples repeated in the New Testament his teachings.

So based on what we know of his teachings, would you vote for him? I am not asking whether you believe in God or not.

I am asking, based on the teachings of Jesus and his apostles would you vote for him? Or anyone who held exaclty the same views of Jesus regarding morality?

So what if Jews believe in him? Does that validate anything? If so, why?

If I knew it to be true that there was a god, and Jesus was the son of that god, then of course I would believe it. I would have to for my own self-interest.

Clean up your argument.

[whork]

Ah, Jesus existed. Even Jews recognize it as such. The question that divides Jews and Christians is whether he was God or not.

Having said that, he did exist.

And as a teacher he had disciples. Those disciples repeated in the New Testament his teachings.

So based on what we know of his teachings, would you vote for him? I am not asking whether you believe in God or not.

I am asking, based on the teachings of Jesus and his apostles would you vote for him? Or anyone who held exaclty the same views of Jesus regarding morality?

To be honest if Jesus had been in charge in WW2 we would all be speaking German by now

[headhuntersix]

Not all....I don't. I was raised catholic....I worship the an oblong shaped brown ball and my wifes' ass.

[whork]

Not all....I don't. I was raised catholic....I worship the an oblong shaped brown ball and my wifes' ass.

 

[garebear]

I don't understand the oblong brown ball reference.

[headhuntersix]

Football.....whatever. Didn't you move to China or sometthing.

[tonymctones]

And you base this on the premise bc they don't want the govt telling them what to do they don't practice this?

Brilliant logic brainchild

Again privately conservatives give more time and money to the poor

[whork]

And you base this on the premise bc they don't want the govt telling them what to do they don't practice this?

Brilliant logic brainchild

Again privately conservatives give more time and money to the poor

So if conservatives give so much money to poor people why do the poor have it much worse here than Europe?
There arent many US style conservatives there

[garebear]

Football.....whatever. Didn't you move to China or sometthing.

Yes, living in China now.

Sorry, not a football fan.

HUGE baseball fan, but the Cards are out, so I lost all interest.

[garebear]

Tony, I don't understand why you quote yourself without adding anything new.

Is that supposed to mean something or was it an accident?

[MCWAY]

Serious question.

He would want to help the poor.

He would be anti-war.

He would favor universal healthcare.

What do you think?

You're still spouting this stupid mess?

1. American Christians give WAAAAAAAY more to the poor and needy than bleating liberals like you, who seem to think you can only give to the poor by taking people's money via excessive taxation.

2. As far as being "anti-war", it was Jesus who said he came to bring 'not peace but the sword'.

3. And, there's not a darn thing that says he's for mandating that people have "universal" healthcare. He charged his disciples to help people who are sick OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL, not by government mandate.

[whork]

You're still spouting this stupid mess?

1. American Christians give WAAAAAAAY more to the poor and needy than bleating liberals like you, who seem to think you can only give to the poor by taking people's money via excessive taxation.

2. As far as being "anti-war", it was Jesus who said he came to bring 'not peace but the sword'.

3. And, there's not a darn thing that says he's for mandating that people have "universal" healthcare. He charged his disciples to help people who are sick OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL, not by government mandate.

So Jesus would deny people healthcare?
I dont think you have read the bible Mcgay

[garebear]

You're still spouting this stupid mess?

1. American Christians give WAAAAAAAY more to the poor and needy than bleating liberals like you, who seem to think you can only give to the poor by taking people's money via excessive taxation.

2. As far as being "anti-war", it was Jesus who said he came to bring 'not peace but the sword'.

3. And, there's not a darn thing that says he's for mandating that people have "universal" healthcare. He charged his disciples to help people who are sick OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL, not by government mandate.

Hahaha.

I was waiting for you to chime in.

You're cherry-picking and, if you care to be intellectually honest, you would tell everyone here that.

Your brand of Christianity is uniquely American.

You would spit on the poor and the true Jesus would have nothing to do with you.

Then again, you agree with people who trash your race in other threads.

Keep on keepin' on.

[MCWAY]

So Jesus would deny people healthcare?
I dont think you have read the bible Mcgay

Where does Jesus tell the government to mandate healthcare again?

[garebear]

Socialism - "Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the alien. I am the LORD your God." Leviticus 19:10

[MCWAY]

Hahaha.

I was waiting for you to chime in.

You're cherry-picking and, if you care to be intellectually honest, you would tell everyone here that.

Your brand of Christianity is uniquely American.

You would spit on the poor and the true Jesus would have nothing to do with you.

Then again, you agree with people who trash your race in other threads.

Keep on keepin' on.

There's no cherry-picking involved, merely wishful thinking and an inability to read on your end.

And, when your delusional posts fail, you resort to the pathetic tripe that somehow my being black means I'm mandated to vote for people who think that helping the poor means adding to their ranks.

[tonymctones]

Yes thats because conservatives claim to be christian.
I can claim to be a green elephant it doesnt make it true.

Claiming? So now giving more time and money is claiming?

[garebear]

"However, there should be no poor among you, for in the land the LORD your God is giving you to possess as your inheritance, he will richly bless you." Deuteronomy 15:4

"There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land." Deuteronomy 15:11

[MCWAY]

Socialism - "Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the alien. I am the LORD your God." Leviticus 19:10

WRONG AGAIN, Garebear.

Notice what is required here for the poor......WORK!

In other words, "if anyone would not work, neither should he eat": 2 Thess 3:10

Then, there's Matt 25's parable of the talents, But his master answered and said to him, ‘You wicked, lazy slave, you knew that I reap where I did not sow and gather where I scattered no seed. Then you ought to have put my money in the bank, and on my arrival I would have received my money back with interest. Therefore take away the talent from him, and give it to the one who has the ten talents.’

“For to everyone who has, more shall be given, and he will have an abundance; but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. Throw out the worthless slave into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Thanks for playing.

[dario73]

So what if Jews believe in him? Does that validate anything? If so, why?

If I knew it to be true that there was a god, and Jesus was the son of that god, then of course I would believe it. I would have to for my own self-interest.

Clean up your argument.

It validates that he existed. It is recorded in history. There was a man by the name of Jesus. Whether he was a deity or not is a matter of an individual's faith or willingness to believe or not to believe.

AGAIN. I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO BELIEVE HE WAS GOD. You don't need to believe in God to read the New Testament and get the gist of his teachings. You seem to think that you know what his attitude was towards the poor, eventhough you don't believe in God.


I AM ASKING YOU TO TELL ME IF YOU WOULD VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHO HELD THE MORAL VIEWS OF JESUS AS STATED BY HIS APOSTLES IN THE NEW TESTAMENT?

You want to focus on health care and the poor.  But you don't want to even touch what the apostles of Jesus said about homosexuality and marriage.

Go ahead. Keep sidestepping.

[garebear]

WRONG AGAIN, Garebear.

Notice what is required here for the poor......WORK!

In other words, "if anyone would not work, neither should he eat": 2 Thess 3:10

Then, there's Matt 25's parable of the talents, But his master answered and said to him, ‘You wicked, lazy slave, you knew that I reap where I did not sow and gather where I scattered no seed. Then you ought to have put my money in the bank, and on my arrival I would have received my money back with interest. Therefore take away the talent from him, and give it to the one who has the ten talents.’

“For to everyone who has, more shall be given, and he will have an abundance; but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. Throw out the worthless slave into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Thanks for playing.

haha

[garebear]

It validates that he existed. It is recorded in history. There was a man by the name of Jesus. Whether he was a deity or not is a matter of an individual's faith or willingness to believe or not to believe.

AGAIN. I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO BELIEVE HE WAS GOD. You don't need to believe in God to read the New Testament and get the gist of his teachings. You seem to think that you know what his attitude was towards the poor, eventhough you don't believe in God.


I AM ASKING YOU TO TELL ME IF YOU WOULD VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHO HELD THE MORAL VIEWS OF JESUS AS STATED BY HIS APOSTLES IN THE NEW TESTAMENT?

You want to focus on health care and the poor.  But you don't want to even touch what the apostles of Jesus said about homosexuality and marriage.

Go ahead. Keep sidestepping.

Because Jews said it, it was true?

That's your logic?

[MCWAY]

"However, there should be no poor among you, for in the land the LORD your God is giving you to possess as your inheritance, he will richly bless you." Deuteronomy 15:4

"There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land." Deuteronomy 15:11

And yet who is actually more openhanded with their brothers, in crunch times?

CONSERVATIVES!! They give WAY more of their time and money than liberals do.

Why is it that the lion's share of charities in this countries are religious-based ones?  Not to mention food banks and homeless shelters, run by churches?

Time for you to quit while you're behind.