Would American Christians vote for Jesus?

[Kazan]

"However, there should be no poor among you, for in the land the LORD your God is giving you to possess as your inheritance, he will richly bless you." Deuteronomy 15:4

"There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land." Deuteronomy 15:11

So your quoting old testament, what does that have to do with Christianity?

[garebear]

And yet who is actually more openhanded with their brothers, in crunch times?

CONSERVATIVES!! They give WAY more of their time and money than liberals do.

Why is it that the lion's share of charities in this countries are religious-based ones?  Not to mention food banks and homeless shelters, run by churches?

Time for you to quit while you're behind.

Christians give to other Christians.

Was that the teaching of Jesus?

I wasn't aware that he put qualifiers on it.

Actually, were there Christians at the time of Jesus?

[Kazan]

Christians give to other Christians.

Was that the teaching of Jesus?

I wasn't aware that he put qualifiers on it.

Actually, were there Christians at the time of Jesus?

1) So what if the donation is to a Christian charity, show me an example where someone has been turned away from said charity for not being Christian.

2) No

[dario73]

Because Jews said it, it was true?

That's your logic?

Their acknowledgement is the biggest proof because it would have been easy for them to reject the notion of his existence since they don't believe in him as the son of God. But, they could not reject what is true. That Jesus did exist.

But is not only Jews.  There were some Roman historians who mentioned Jesus existing. Killed because of witchcraft, as they stated.

Regardless, the New Testatment is there. The teachings of Christianity are there. So if a person who held the same social and moral views on homosexuality and marriage as Jesus and his apostles ran for office, would you vote for them?

[garebear]

And yet who is actually more openhanded with their brothers, in crunch times?

CONSERVATIVES!! They give WAY more of their time and money than liberals do.

Why is it that the lion's share of charities in this countries are religious-based ones?  Not to mention food banks and homeless shelters, run by churches?

Time for you to quit while you're behind.

I'm curious about your views on MLK.

Do you think he was a communist?

[garebear]

Their acknowledgement is the biggest proof because it would have been easy for them to reject the notion of his existence since they don't believe in him as the son of God. But, they could not reject what is true. That Jesus did exist.

But is not only Jews.  There were some Roman historians who mentioned Jesus existing. Killed because of witchcraft, as they stated.

Regardless, the New Testatment is there. The teachings of Christianity are there. So if a person who held the same social and moral views on homosexuality and marriage as Jesus and his apostles ran for office, would you vote for them?

You haven't answered the original question.

[dario73]

Would I vote for Jesus? Of course because he would be against Obamacare, government intervention, homosexuality, and abortion.

[garebear]

Would I vote for Jesus? Of course because he would be against Obamacare, government intervention, homosexuality, and abortion.

And wealth.

Socialism - I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Matthew 19:23-24

[Kazan]

And wealth.

Socialism - I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Matthew 19:23-24

Do you even understand what this means?

[garebear]

Yes, better than you.

[Kazan]

Yes, better than you.

Really? Please enlighten me

[Option D]

Going through this thread, there are a lot of factors and contextual instances that have to be taken into consideration.


For those saying Jesus wouldnt agree with our tax system or helping people through taxes...There is really no way to prove that either way.

For those saying the christians Give more than any group. The Biggest identifying factor or "group" outside of being called AMERICANS is Christianity. 51% are Protestant and 23% are Catholic. With another 3% identifying themselves as "other christian"

So thats about 75% of Americans identifying with Christianity, so they would, my virtue of simple math, statistically give most.

Something to think about.

Guy please dont get to foaming at the mouth and post youtube vids or some long ass article from rightwingsareus.com.. Its just something to mull over while throwing out "facts"

[Kazan]

Going through this thread, there are a lot of factors and contextual instances that have to be taken into consideration.


For those saying Jesus wouldnt agree with our tax system or helping people through taxes...There is really no way to prove that either way.

For those saying the christians Give more than any group. The Biggest identifying factor or "group" outside of being called AMERICANS is Christianity. 51% are Protestant and 23% are Catholic. With another 3% identifying themselves as "other christian"

So thats about 75% of Americans identifying with Christianity, so they would, my virtue of simple math, statistically give most.

Something to think about.

Guy please dont get to foaming at the mouth and post youtube vids or some long ass article from rightwingsareus.com.. Its just something to mull over while throwing out "facts"

Well said

[Agnostic007]

Serious question.

He would want to help the poor.

He would be anti-war.

He would favor universal healthcare.

What do you think?

If the Jesus/teacher character from the bible ran for office, he would not win enogh votes. The character would not pander to his audience saying what needs to be said to get votes. He would be consistent and state what he believed. We have similar politicians today, and they never will make it to the oval office. Americans vote for the candidate who sppon feeds them what they want to hear. He would also not be equiped to handled todays complex issues

If the Jesus/Son of God character ran.. of course I'd vote for him... but he would already know that

[dario73]

And wealth.

Socialism - I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Matthew 19:23-24

He wasn't against wealth, my friend.

That passage you quoted had to with the young ruler as stated in Matthew 19:16-22 who came to Jesus seeking advice on how to be eternally save. The problem with the young prince, which is the problem of many people today, is that they love their wealth and properties more than God. They have more faith and confidence on what they have than in God.

Jesus was against the Love of Money, not Money: 1 Timothy 6:10
In God's eyes, loving anything more than him is idolatry.

Nicodemus, Matthew, Luke, Zacchaeus, and Joseph of Arimathea were people who were well off or rich and they believed in Jesus and Jesus did not condemn them for their wealth.

[B_B_C]

It seems to be a peculiarity of Christianity that many christians have so much difficulty with the teachings of Christ that they retreat in to the certainties of the old Testement and in to the later writings of others (eg Paul, Aquinis etc) who they themselves (the later writers) seem compulsed to add their own beliefs.

[garebear]

Would I vote for Jesus? Of course because he would be against Obamacare, government intervention, homosexuality, and abortion.

Haha. Thanks, man. I needed that laugh.

[dario73]

Haha. Thanks, man. I needed that laugh.

Try laughing at this. And yes, he would be against obamacare AND HOMOSEXUALITY AND ABORTION.

He wasn't against wealth, my friend.

That passage you quoted had to with the young ruler as stated in Matthew 19:16-22 who came to Jesus seeking advice on how to be eternally save. The problem with the young prince, which is the problem of many people today, is that they love their wealth and properties more than God. They have more faith and confidence on what they have than in God.

Jesus was against the Love of Money, not Money: 1 Timothy 6:10
In God's eyes, loving anything more than him is idolatry.

Nicodemus, Matthew, Luke, Zacchaeus, and Joseph of Arimathea were people who were well off or rich and they believed in Jesus and Jesus did not condemn them for their wealth.

[garebear]

Try laughing at this. And yes, he would be against obamacare AND HOMOSEXUALITY AND ABORTION.

Quote yourself some more.

[MCWAY]

Christians give to other Christians.

Was that the teaching of Jesus?

I wasn't aware that he put qualifiers on it.

Actually, were there Christians at the time of Jesus?

There sure were. And, who says Christians just give to other Christians?

[tonymctones]

Going through this thread, there are a lot of factors and contextual instances that have to be taken into consideration.


For those saying Jesus wouldnt agree with our tax system or helping people through taxes...There is really no way to prove that either way.

For those saying the christians Give more than any group. The Biggest identifying factor or "group" outside of being called AMERICANS is Christianity. 51% are Protestant and 23% are Catholic. With another 3% identifying themselves as "other christian"

So thats about 75% of Americans identifying with Christianity, so they would, my virtue of simple math, statistically give most.

Something to think about.

Guy please dont get to foaming at the mouth and post youtube vids or some long ass article from rightwingsareus.com.. Its just something to mull over while throwing out "facts"

First of mal it was a study done on conservatives and the study was not overall who gives more where % of the population would play a role but on average who gives more

[tonymctones]

"However, there should be no poor among you, for in the land the LORD your God is giving you to possess as your inheritance, he will richly bless you." Deuteronomy 15:4

"There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land." Deuteronomy 15:11

And Christians do that gare

Your beef is that the don't support govt telling them who needs help and who is poor...

[dario73]

Quote yourself some more.

I quote it because I thought you might have missed it.

Here:

He wasn't against wealth, my friend.

That passage you quoted had to with the young ruler as stated in Matthew 19:16-22 who came to Jesus seeking advice on how to be eternally save. The problem with the young prince, which is the problem of many people today, is that they love their wealth and properties more than God. They have more faith and confidence on what they have than in God.

Jesus was against the Love of Money, not Money: 1 Timothy 6:10
In God's eyes, loving anything more than him is idolatry.

Nicodemus, Matthew, Luke, Zacchaeus, and Joseph of Arimathea were people who were well off or rich and they believed in Jesus and Jesus did not condemn them for their wealth.

[garebear]

And Christians do that gare

Your beef is that the don't support govt telling them who needs help and who is poor...

Dario, you're the best.

[dario73]

Dario, you're the best.

You are confused.