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« on: October 26, 2012, 09:16:48 AM » |
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Sorry guys...but it looks to me like Obama is not going to win...the race is really close and I believe the polling is in Romney's favor.....even in the states where Obama is leading I don't think he will be able to pull it off...he's going to lose Florida.... and probably won't get Virginia and North Carolina to swing for him again....Ohio is a toss up but I never trust a poll in a close race where there is a black candidate running against a white candidate......often-times the black candidate's strength is over-reported....
Also the economy is getting better...the new numbers out indicate higher than usual growth...but it might be too late....many people have made up their minds and those who haven't will probably go for Romney once they get in the voting booth....
Obama's only hope is to take Ohio, Wisconsin, New Hampshire and hold on to Nevada and Colorado.....If he can do that, he could still win without Florida...also Obama can win if most of the early voters go democratic which they usually do...its been reported that there has been a record amount of early voting this year.....
Obama's first debate loss hurt him badly...he recovered in the last two debates and won both I think but the damage has been done.... I am voting for Obama.....Romney would be a disaster for the country
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2012, 09:20:02 AM » |
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Sorry guys...but it looks to me like Obama is not going to win...the race is really close and I believe the polling is in Romney's favor.....even in the states where Obama is leading I don't think he will be able to pull it off...he's going to lose Florida.... and probably won't get Virginia and North Carolina to swing for him again....Ohio is a toss up but I never trust a poll in a close race where there is a black candidate running against a white candidate......often-times the black candidate's strength is over-reported....
Also the economy is getting better...the new numbers out indicate higher than usual growth...but it might be too late....many people have made up their minds and those who haven't will probably go for Romney once they get in the voting booth....
Obama's only hope is to take Ohio, Wisconsin, New Hampshire and hold on to Nevada and Colorado.....If he can do that, he could still win without Florida...also Obama can win if most of the early voters go democratic which they usually do...its been reported that there has been a record amount of early voting this year.....
Obama's first debate loss hurt him badly...he recovered in the last two debates and won both I think but the damage has been done....
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2012, 09:24:44 AM » |
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I'm not sure it matters who wins... I've no confidence that either one are out for my best interests..
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2012, 09:42:02 AM » |
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I'm not sure it matters who wins... I've no confidence that either one are out for my best interests..
True statement, the question you should ask is who's interest best reflect my own?
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2012, 09:55:10 AM » |
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True statement, the question you should ask is who's interest best reflect my own?
First, let me say there are a bunch of smart people, much smarter than I am, voting for either candidate. So let's eliminate the "You gotta be stupid to vote for ____" option Then, let me say the following is my own method of coming to a decision. I am not a fan of either party. I like some things in both, I dislike many things in both. I am libertarian if I had to label myself. I operate on the premise that you get 4 yrs to do what you said you would do during the campaign. Most lie during the campaign and make promises they know they can't keep. I like to hold them accountable. Bush had 4 yrs, at the end of that I wanted him fired. I didn't like the job he was doing. So I rooted for the candidate. I lost. 4 yrs after the last election, I find that Obama didn't live up to many of his campaign promises and so I want him fired. He doesn't get 4 more years to accomplish what he said he would do in 4 yrs. If Romney doesn't perform as well as I think he should have, then I will fire him.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2012, 10:02:49 AM » |
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First, let me say there are a bunch of smart people, much smarter than I am, voting for either candidate. So let's eliminate the "You gotta be stupid to vote for ____" option
Then, let me say the following is my own method of coming to a decision. I am not a fan of either party. I like some things in both, I dislike many things in both. I am libertarian if I had to label myself. I operate on the premise that you get 4 yrs to do what you said you would do during the campaign. Most lie during the campaign and make promises they know they can't keep. I like to hold them accountable. Bush had 4 yrs, at the end of that I wanted him fired. I didn't like the job he was doing. So I rooted for the candidate. I lost. 4 yrs after the last election, I find that Obama didn't live up to many of his campaign promises and so I want him fired. He doesn't get 4 more years to accomplish what he said he would do in 4 yrs.
If Romney doesn't perform as well as I think he should have, then I will fire him.
If Romney doesn't perform as well as I think he should have, then I will fire him. BINGO
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2012, 10:06:03 AM » |
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2012, 10:06:47 AM » |
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I am for Obama and yes there are somethings he did not do.....but the economy was in ther worst shape it had been in since the great depression....it was a very difficult job.....I think even Obama was surprised at the extent of the problem when he took office.....but he saved the banking industry and the auto industry as well....I just think people are tired of him and want to go in another direction
But Romney will permanently destroy this country if he enacts the tax cuts he's proposing...you dont cut more revenue when you can't pay your bills already.....thats like me being 6 months behind in rent, water, electric, car note, etc, and I say to myself "hey..I think I will work less hours"...it doesn't add up
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2012, 10:08:20 AM » |
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Gallup still has Romney up by 5 today.
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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2012, 10:12:32 AM » |
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Intrade and Nate Silver significantly upgrade Obama’s odds for victory Intrade Obama Romney October 26, 2012
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2012, 10:14:29 AM » |
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I am for Obama and yes there are somethings he did not do.....but the economy was in ther worst shape it had been in since the great depression....it was a very difficult job.....I think even Obama was surprised at the extent of the problem when he took office.....but he saved the banking industry and the auto industry as well....I just think people are tired of him and want to go in another direction
But Romney will permanently destroy this country if he enacts the tax cuts he's proposing...you dont cut more revenue when you can't pay your bills already.....thats like me being 6 months behind in rent, water, electric, car note, etc, and I say to myself "hey..I think I will work less hours"...it doesn't add up
The good news is, Romney lied. His tax plan won't get implemented because it is a bad plan and he never intended to do it, but he needed something to say that sounded good to republicans. So you can relax a little bit and take comfort in the fact he was just full of shi*
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2012, 10:18:04 AM » |
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2012, 10:24:16 AM » |
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The economy is not showing numbers that are "stronger than usual". A 2.0% growth in GDP is horrible...particularly three years post recession. I agree that Obama is toast... he's toast largely because the economy has performed not only below his promised standards, but historic levels as well.
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2012, 10:44:34 AM » |
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The economy is not showing numbers that are "stronger than usual". A 2.0% growth in GDP is horrible...particularly three years post recession. I agree that Obama is toast... he's toast largely because the economy has performed not only below his promised standards, but historic levels as well.
I think you are giving us too much credit.
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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2012, 04:39:56 PM » |
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I'm not sure it matters who wins... I've no confidence that either one are out for my best interests..
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« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2012, 04:47:05 PM » |
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The economy is not showing numbers that are "stronger than usual". A 2.0% growth in GDP is horrible...particularly three years post recession. I agree that Obama is toast... he's toast largely because the economy has performed not only below his promised standards, but historic levels as well.
And a 2% print that was born from a massive burst of government spending. Taking into account all things considered, all things done, all things spent, all promises made....these numbers are pretty bad.
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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2012, 07:17:57 PM » |
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Sorry guys...but it looks to me like Obama is not going to win...the race is really close and I believe the polling is in Romney's favor.....even in the states where Obama is leading I don't think he will be able to pull it off...he's going to lose Florida.... and probably won't get Virginia and North Carolina to swing for him again....Ohio is a toss up but I never trust a poll in a close race where there is a black candidate running against a white candidate......often-times the black candidate's strength is over-reported....
Also the economy is getting better...the new numbers out indicate higher than usual growth...but it might be too late....many people have made up their minds and those who haven't will probably go for Romney once they get in the voting booth....
Obama's only hope is to take Ohio, Wisconsin, New Hampshire and hold on to Nevada and Colorado.....If he can do that, he could still win without Florida...also Obama can win if most of the early voters go democratic which they usually do...its been reported that there has been a record amount of early voting this year.....
Obama's first debate loss hurt him badly...he recovered in the last two debates and won both I think but the damage has been done.... I am voting for Obama.....Romney would be a disaster for the country
if romney wins im going to vegas and banging some whores to celebrate
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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2012, 07:24:22 PM » |
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Sorry guys...but it looks to me like Obama is not going to win...the race is really close and I believe the polling is in Romney's favor.....even in the states where Obama is leading I don't think he will be able to pull it off...he's going to lose Florida.... and probably won't get Virginia and North Carolina to swing for him again....Ohio is a toss up but I never trust a poll in a close race where there is a black candidate running against a white candidate......often-times the black candidate's strength is over-reported....
Also the economy is getting better...the new numbers out indicate higher than usual growth...but it might be too late....many people have made up their minds and those who haven't will probably go for Romney once they get in the voting booth....
Obama's only hope is to take Ohio, Wisconsin, New Hampshire and hold on to Nevada and Colorado.....If he can do that, he could still win without Florida...also Obama can win if most of the early voters go democratic which they usually do...its been reported that there has been a record amount of early voting this year.....
Obama's first debate loss hurt him badly...he recovered in the last two debates and won both I think but the damage has been done.... I am voting for Obama.....Romney would be a disaster for the country
Good Lord, you're a fucking moron. We accept your apology. Don't let the door hit you or rerun... I mean Obama on the way out.
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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2012, 10:09:36 PM » |
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if romney wins im going to vegas and banging some whores to celebrate
Bang Romney too while you're at it..he's definitely a whore as well..he'll say anything to anyone to get elected....his flip-flops are amazing
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« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2012, 10:11:01 PM » |
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Good Lord, you're a fucking moron.
We accept your apology.
Don't let the door hit you or rerun... I mean Obama on the way out.
you always enter a thread with an immediate putdown....in what way am I a moron???..just telling it as I see it..its not an apology....I am not a hardcore neocon with the pompoms out like you are...there is theories out there that this phenomenon does occur
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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2012, 10:15:58 PM » |
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CNN says Obama has 41% of the white male vote.....43% of white women...if these numbers are accurate which Im skeptical they are, then Obama will win
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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2012, 11:20:39 PM » |
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CNN says Obama has 41% of the white male vote.....43% of white women...if these numbers are accurate which Im skeptical they are, then Obama will win
Obama had that when he ran against McCain. Now, he has but 32%, according to ABC. Romney has 66%. An AP poll has them even at 47% with women. If that holds, particularly in certain swing states, Romney wins it. http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/mitt-romney-shows-strength-male-voters-17576012
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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2012, 09:32:59 AM » |
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« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2012, 12:20:13 PM » |
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you always enter a thread with an immediate putdown....in what way am I a moron???..just telling it as I see it..its not an apology....I am not a hardcore neocon with the pompoms out like you are...there is theories out there that this phenomenon does occur
Were the numbers over-reported in '08?
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« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2012, 01:22:32 PM » |
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