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Re: Romney ready to concede Ohio?
« Reply #50 on: October 28, 2012, 04:45:00 PM »
Funny - Obama has been so great that he is doing worse in every state than from 2008.

You are right, with the exception of Ohio where he is doing slightly better then he did in 2008.

When the going gets tough, the populous looks for a change. Things were tough in 2008 and people voted for change. The economy hasn't recovered sufficiently yet and so, once again many folks will vote for change. Sometimes change is good and sometimes it isn't. I am not sure there are enough voters with such short memories that they've forgotten that it was a Republican administration that got us into the financial mess we've been in these last several years to get your guy elected.

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Re: Romney ready to concede Ohio?
« Reply #51 on: October 28, 2012, 04:47:26 PM »
You are right, with the exception of Ohio where he is doing slightly better then he did in 2008.

When the going gets tough, the populous looks for a change. Things were tough in 2008 and people voted for change. The economy hasn't recovered sufficiently yet and so, once again many folks will vote for change. Sometimes change is good and sometimes it isn't. I am not sure there are enough voters with such short memories that they've forgotten that it was a Republican administration that got us into the financial mess we've been in these last several years to get your guy elected.

I dpnt blame obama for the situation he walked in to, I blame him for his appointments, decisions, and policies since he took office that have retarded any possibility of even a historical recovery by comparison to what we have going on now. 

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Re: Romney ready to concede Ohio?
« Reply #52 on: October 28, 2012, 05:05:14 PM »
I dpnt blame obama for the situation he walked in to, I blame him for his appointments, decisions, and policies since he took office that have retarded any possibility of even a historical recovery by comparison to what we have going on now. 

And there is no possibility in your mind that you and many other people expected an economic fix with an unrealistic time-line? Many people acknowledge that this has been the worst economy since the Great Depression. Not only that, it was the world economy that tanked not just the U.S. economy. It took decades for the U.S. to fully recover from the Great Depression. Today many people, like you, believe it is possible to fix a huge problem like this in less than 4 years. I find that thinking both amazing and indicative of were society is today.

Sadly, I don't believe our next President, be it Obama or Romney, will be able to fix things in four more years. However, I hope whoever is elected can make some improvements and get folks back to work in jobs which offer a decent salary and reasonable benefits. I sincerely wish that the President and congress will protect and preserve the benefits we've all worked for and paid into for so many years, such as SSI and Medicare. Lastly, I hope whoever is President won't have our military fighting and dying in yet another senseless war (I have a very personal reason for this). This is just my short list....I could go on.

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Re: Romney ready to concede Ohio?
« Reply #53 on: October 28, 2012, 05:08:43 PM »
And there is no possibility in your mind that you and many other people expected an economic fix with an unrealistic time-line? Many people acknowledge that this has been the worst economy since the Great Depression. Not only that, it was the world economy that tanked not just the U.S. economy. It took decades for the U.S. to fully recover from the Great Depression. Today many people, like you, believe it is possible to fix a huge problem like this in less than 4 years. I find that thinking both amazing and indicative of were society is today.

Sadly, I don't believe our next President, be it Obama or Romney, will be able to fix things in four more years. However, I hope whoever is elected can make some improvements and get folks back to work in jobs which offer a decent salary and reasonable benefits. I sincerely wish that the President and congress will protect and preserve the benefits we've all worked for and paid into for so many years, such as SSI and Medicare. Lastly, I hope whoever is President won't have our military fighting and dying in yet another senseless war (I have a very personal reason for this). This is just my short list....I could go on.

I didnt say FIX.   However, i believe the decisions he made HURT the recovery.   There have been so many forks in this road where he took the wrong path its hard to remember.  At a certain point you have to realize the guy is just not up to the job and does not have the instincts to make the right choices. 

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Re: Romney ready to concede Ohio?
« Reply #54 on: October 28, 2012, 05:34:20 PM »
I didnt say FIX.   However, i believe the decisions he made HURT the recovery.   There have been so many forks in this road where he took the wrong path its hard to remember.  At a certain point you have to realize the guy is just not up to the job and does not have the instincts to make the right choices. 

So then, are you convinced that Romney will do any better? Of course one can always hope for a brighter future with change and the unknown. However, it is much more reliable to look back then to look forward. The past good or bad is a known quantity while the future is always unknown. If Romney becomes president, will you be pointing out all his mistakes and calling him a thug four years from now? Is it not possible that you have a bias?

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Re: Romney ready to concede Ohio?
« Reply #55 on: October 28, 2012, 05:39:53 PM »
So then, are you convinced that Romney will do any better? Of course one can always hope for a brighter future with change and the unknown. However, it is much more reliable to look back then to look forward. The past good or bad is a known quantity while the future is always unknown. If Romney becomes president, will you be pointing out all his mistakes and calling him a thug four years from now? Is it not possible that you have a bias?

1.  I am done at 99,999 posts 

2.  I have stated my opinion many times.  Romney = 50/75 - 100% chance of failure.  Obama = 100% chance of failure.  I am voting for romney on the small small chance he will be better w the expectation of getting screwed. 


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Re: Romney ready to concede Ohio?
« Reply #56 on: October 28, 2012, 05:52:21 PM »
1.  I am done at 99,999 posts 

2.  I have stated my opinion many times.  Romney = 50/75 - 100% chance of failure.  Obama = 100% chance of failure.  I am voting for romney on the small small chance he will be better w the expectation of getting screwed. 



How much do you really know about Mitt Romney? My guess is no more than folks knew about President Obama four years ago. How have you concluded that Romney has a 50 to 100% chance of failure? These don't seem like really good odds, btw. I agree that if President Obama cannot get congress to move on anything, he has a fairly high chance of failure too. In the end, I don't believe either person has a 100% chance of failure nor a 100% chance of success in all the issues before them.

People can be so weird. I am phone banking on weekday evenings. One phone call I made was to what was probably some kind of commune because the person who answered the phone said everyone there was voting a straight Democratic ticket with the exception of one. That one person was, according to the person I spoke with, unemployed, not looking for work, on food stamps and receiving welfare. I managed to avoid the question of whether this person had their head up their ass. Do they not realize they are on of the 47% that Romney says don't count anyway?

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Re: Romney ready to concede Ohio?
« Reply #57 on: October 28, 2012, 05:55:09 PM »
How much do you really know about Mitt Romney? My guess is no more than folks knew about President Obama four years ago. How have you concluded that Romney has a 50 to 100% chance of failure? These don't seem like really good odds, btw. I agree that if President Obama cannot get congress to move on anything, he has a fairly high chance of failure too. In the end, I don't believe either person has a 100% chance of failure nor a 100% chance of success in all the issues before them.

People can be so weird. I am phone banking on weekday evenings. One phone call I made was to what was probably some kind of commune because the person who answered the phone said everyone there was voting a straight Democratic ticket with the exception of one. That one person was, according to the person I spoke with, unemployed, not looking for work, on food stamps and receiving welfare. I managed to avoid the question of whether this person had their head up their ass. Do they not realize they are on of the 47% that Romney says don't count anyway?


TBH too - i detest obama as a person.   I think he is  slug and skell as a person. 

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Re: Romney ready to concede Ohio?
« Reply #58 on: October 29, 2012, 08:30:20 AM »
Rasmussen now has Romney up 50-48.

He's also up by that same margin in Florida and Virginia and it's a tie in Wisconsin.

So, it's safe to say that the answer to the question in this thread is.....NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/ohio/election_2012_ohio_president

http://www.13wmaz.com/news/topstories/article/201906/175/Ohio-Poll-Romney-Obama-Tied-Among-Likely-Voters