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Dear Republican Friends
« on: October 29, 2012, 06:50:50 AM »
Dear Republican Friends
October 24, 2012

Dear Republican Friends,

Look, we need to talk. We can’t keep going like this. No matter how much you dislike President Obama and no matter how much you disagree with his policies, you need to vote for him in November. I’m not saying you have to like it or that you can’t go back to voting even for extreme conservatives in the next election, but this election is different.

The problem is not that the issues involved in this cycle are THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES EVER. No, they’re important, but many elections have involved similarly important issues. I think you’re wrong about taxes, spending, healthcare, foreign policy, the judiciary, and regulation. But I’m happy to keep disagreeing on these subjects in the normal course of our politics.

Here’s the thing: if Romney wins, it validates a strategy that, if adopted by my team too, will make America pretty much ungovernable. From the day Obama was inaugurated, the Republican strategy has been to refuse to cooperate on virtually every issue, to fight every piece of legislation, to block every nomination, and even to threaten to kill clearly needed legislation in the style of a hostage taker.

And when I say “from the day Obama was inaugurated,” I mean it literally.
That night, at a strategy dinner organized by one of the world’s most repulsive humans, Frank Luntz, and attended by House and Senate Republican leaders, including Paul Ryan, key Republicans discussed the need to “challenge [the new administration] on every single bill.” Killing everything, running on a lack of progress to take back the House in the midterms and the White House in 2012, that was what mattered. Newt Gingrich told the assembled crowd: “You will remember this day. You’ll remember this as the day the seeds of 2012 were sown.”

One attendee, Texas rep Pete Sessions, explained shortly after this and after the House Republicans had unanimously voted against the stimulus bill:

    Insurgency, we understand perhaps a little bit more because of the Taliban. And that is that they went about systematically understanding how to disrupt and change a person’s entire processes. And these Taliban — I’m not trying to say the Republican Party is the Taliban. No, that’s not what we’re saying. I’m saying an example of how you go about [sic] is to change a person from their messaging to their operations to their frontline message. And we need to understand that insurgency may be required when the other side, the House leadership, does not follow the same commands, which we entered the game with.

In 2010, Senator Mitch McConnell famously declared that his most important priority was to ensure that President Obama would be a one-term president. Supposed fact checkers have pointed out that, in the context of that interview, McConnell perhaps showed more flexibility. But in the context of everything else we know, it could not be clearer that winning the White House in 2012 using a strategy of unyielding obstruction was precisely his top priority. That mindless, nihilistic obstruction has been a means to that end is obvious not only from the record but also from what other senators have said. We know this both from off-the-record comments and also from on-the-record statements. Here’s former Senator George Voinovich:

    If he was for it, we had to be against it. … . He wanted everyone to hold the fort. All he cared about was making sure Obama could never have a clean victory.

Vice President Biden claims he was told by several Republican Senators, before taking office, “For the next two years, we can’t let you succeed in anything. That’s our ticket to coming back.” You may generally disbelieve Biden, but the gist of these conversations was confirmed by Republican Senators Bob Bennett and Arlen Specter. (The source here is the same link as above, an article by Greg Sargent reporting on the contents of Michael Grunwald’s book, The New New Deal.)

And obstruct they have. I won’t recite the list of bills and appointments Republicans have blocked. Loud, obnoxious, and illogical opposition in the House is paired with efficacious holds and filibustering in the Senate. Take a look at this chart showing that the number of filibusters more than doubled when Democrats took control of the Senate. It is to the point where absolutely nothing gets through the Senate without sixty votes, which means Republicans can and, more importantly and tragically, do veto everything. The Democrats did indeed maintain a sixty-vote majority for a brief period, counting two independents who normally voted with them, but any sensible person quickly understands that’s not enough, given the way that a single Democratic vote could be easily peeled off.
(Obstruction could provide the appearance of division that would be used as a bludgeon in races in vulnerable districts.)

This strategy combines toxically with a party ideology that moderates of all stripes have observed growing increasingly inflexible, increasingly unmoored from the facts and pragmatism, and ever more fond of insane litmus tests like Grover Norquist’s tax pledge (guaranteeing in advance that no matter what happens candidates will not vote for any income tax increase of any kind).

But, my fellow American, I’m not asking you to vote against your party because of its policy choices. I do find inexplicable their insistence on dramatically cutting spending in the wake of a demand-induced recession despite record low interest rates and no real inflation, their dogged determination to maintain historically low levels of taxation on the richest Americans, their obsession with eliminating regulations, their preoccupation with controlling female sexuality, and their attachment to wild-eyed, unrealistic foreign policies. I’m not giving you any arguments on those here, however. But pointing out just how extreme your party has become goes some way toward explaining why they’d be willing to engage in unprecedented levels of hypocrisy (fully aware how hyperbolic that can sound when discussing political bodies) to defeat a president:

    The results can border on the absurd: In early 2009, several of the eight Republican co-sponsors of a bipartisan health-care reform plan dropped their support; by early 2010, the others had turned on their own proposal so that there would be zero GOP backing for any bill that came within a mile of Obama’s reform initiative. As one co-sponsor, Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), told The Washington Post’s Ezra Klein: “I liked it because it was bipartisan. I wouldn’t have voted for it.”

    And seven Republican co-sponsors of a Senate resolution to create a debt-reduction panel voted in January 2010 against their own resolution, solely to keep it from getting to the 60-vote threshold Republicans demanded and thus denying the president a seeming victory.


Now stick with me. It’s perfectly fine for the opposition robustly to fight the President’s agenda. Especially after losing a high profile election, it’s natural to get together, to strategize about how to protect what matters most in your own agenda, even to make plans to win the next election. And normal politicking involves caricaturing your opponents, tough negotiations, and rough rhetoric. Our politics, though, have gone well past this.

The President has compromised endlessly only to attract zero Republican votes and face, again no matter how compromising, charges that he was partisan and uncompromising. If we liberals had our way, we’d have single-payer healthcare, an adequate stimulus (twice as big as what was done and as all reasonable economists indicated was necessary - and as interest rates are virtually begging us to undertake), bankruptcy cramdown, no prison in Guantanamo, much higher marginal rates on top earners, and the list goes on. But we never expected to get our way on everything. People disagree about things, especially important things. That’s fine. And it’s why the president’s healthcare plan took as its model a conservative proposal that had managed to unite the parties in the past.

The immediate and urgent problem here is not what Republicans believe but the two-fold strategy they have chosen to pursue: (1) Make sure nothing gets done. (2) Run a campaign criticizing President Obama for not getting anything done.

This can’t be allowed to work, and I think this is a point on which we both can agree. This is so important that I want to say it again: This can’t be allowed to work. Imagine your party’s candidate does win. What is my party supposed to do? If we adopt your strategy, Romney will fail. Winning an election does not mean you should be able to get your way without compromise. But at the very least everyone in our system should be accountable. You don’t get to obstruct everything and then run a campaign accusing your opponent of failing to reach across the aisle to get things done. If you think that’s an acceptable strategy, then ask yourself if you want my party to adopt it.

Wait a minute, some of my independent-minded friends may say! The problem here is the two-party system. We just need a viable third party. Nonsense, unless you’re plan is (a) to replace the winner-take-all, first-past-the-post system we have, with, say, a parliamentary system or (b) to destroy and remake one of the two parties you generally favor. Believing that a three party system is viable in the presidential context under our current election rules is like believing the moon is made out of cheese. I’m quite open to thinking about (a) — though not at all sure how realistic such a radical change is. And on (b), well if it leads to the remaking of a more pragmatically minded conservative party, I’m all for it. But it’s a method for realigning, maybe even renaming!, the two parties, not for stably adding a third.

I understand the stakes here. The economy is likely to improve over the coming years (at least in the short term), regardless of who is elected. If Obama is re-elected, he will probably go down as a great president, for many reasons. If not, Romney will get credit for rescuing the economy. But more important than any particular policy is our continued ability to make policy at all. The model of governance and campaigning demonstrated by the Republican party over the last four years, if adopted by everyone, would be a suicide pact. Let’s not sign it.
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Re: Dear Republican Friends
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2012, 06:51:35 AM »
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Re: Dear Republican Friends
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2012, 06:57:37 AM »
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Romney didn't earn anything.   He waged a dishonest campaign and outspent everyone 20 to  1
Romney is the foil.      Anyone not seeing that is delusional.   Romney s a piece of shit.   
Because they know Romney is a time bomb waiting to blow that will give Obama a second term on a platter.

I fucking hate romney.
 

Romney's campaign is a complete mess.

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Re: Dear Republican Friends
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2012, 07:12:52 AM »
Dear Republican Friends
October 24, 2012

Dear Republican Friends,

<snip>

Not a fucking chance.....white, middle class America is about to stomp a mudhole in your lazy neegul welfare bitch ass and walk it dry.

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Re: Dear Republican Friends
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2012, 07:14:22 AM »
Dear Benny,

2012 democrats are completly different than clintoon era democrats..modern day demorats are more about poor people and look down at the wealthy.liberals should not be allowed to hold goverment positions..their views never make it past their own party..democratcs do not want to play fair with capitalism..movre government involvment does not help anything



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Re: Dear Republican Friends
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2012, 07:18:24 AM »
Not a fucking chance.....white, middle class America is about to stomp a mudhole in your lazy neegul welfare bitch ass and walk it dry.
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Re: Dear Republican Friends
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2012, 07:24:44 AM »
Actually, the only statement that had any credence was the mention that "America would be ungovernable".  This is true.  America has always been ungovernable at heart.  It should be. 

Government = force = tyranny = the reason we fought the British.

Voluntary Association is the only true path to human freedon.

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Re: Dear Republican Friends
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2012, 07:25:07 AM »
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Dear Dicksucker:

Left wing wackos overuse of the word rascist leaves it with no meaning anymore.

A couple weeks to go - and obama will have ensured Republican rule for the next 20 years.

Sincerely,

Go Fuck Yourself

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Re: Dear Republican Friends
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2012, 07:31:20 AM »
Lets say your having some money problems and struggling to pay the bills, living paycheck to paycheck. What is most peoples solution? well I need to make more money. But what happens when you start making more money? do your money problems go away? no, because you don't have a money problem you have a spending problem.

If your having money problems and faced with debt, there is only one way to get out and that's by cutting back. Move to a smaller house with less rent. Get rid of the car payments for something cheap. Drop the cable bill for a few months. Stop buying that 5$ cup of starbucks every day at lunch. These are all things you dont need to live.

One person wants to keep increasing taxes, keep spending to make the economy improve. Is this working?

The other candidate wants to cut back on spending. Get rid of programs that are unnecessary(big bird) ya 15 million isn't much for the government. But if you can cut several of these 'low budget' expensive, you got a billion dollars, and in 10 years you got 10 billion dollars saved from things we really dont need.

Obama is just another typical American. Spend to make more money. Throw it on the plastic card and worry about it later. This is something we cannot continue doing. Taxes are not the answer because we dont have a taxing problem, we have a spending problem.

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Re: Dear Republican Friends
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2012, 07:32:45 AM »
Dear Dicksucker:

Left wing wackos overuse of the word rascist leaves it with no meaning anymore.

A couple weeks to go - and obama will have ensured Republican rule for the next 20 years.

Sincerely,

Go Fuck Yourself
A lot of homosexual overtones in this post.

Are you hitting on me?

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Re: Dear Republican Friends
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2012, 07:35:56 AM »
Cliffs?

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Re: Dear Republican Friends
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2012, 07:38:25 AM »
Lets say your having some money problems and struggling to pay the bills, living paycheck to paycheck. What is most peoples solution? well I need to make more money. But what happens when you start making more money? do your money problems go away? no, because you don't have a money problem you have a spending problem.

If your having money problems and faced with debt, there is only one way to get out and that's by cutting back. Move to a smaller house with less rent. Get rid of the car payments for something cheap. Drop the cable bill for a few months. Stop buying that 5$ cup of starbucks every day at lunch. These are all things you dont need to live.

One person wants to keep increasing taxes, keep spending to make the economy improve. Is this working?

The other candidate wants to cut back on spending. Get rid of programs that are unnecessary(big bird) ya 15 million isn't much for the government. But if you can cut several of these 'low budget' expensive, you got a billion dollars, and in 10 years you got 10 billion dollars saved from things we really dont need.

Obama is just another typical American. Spend to make more money. Throw it on the plastic card and worry about it later. This is something we cannot continue doing. Taxes are not the answer because we dont have a taxing problem, we have a spending problem.
I'm interested as to where you think Romney differs.

His tax plan is impossible.

He wants to increase Defense spending by $2 trillion (no one has any idea what for).

His hawkish stance on Iran has got to be worrying to anyone honestly concerned about the budget.

How much did the Iraq war cost us?

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Re: Dear Republican Friends
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2012, 07:42:37 AM »
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Because only white people can be racist, right?

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Re: Dear Republican Friends
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2012, 07:45:23 AM »
It's always amazing to me how many people are so racist on this site all the time and then get mad when they're called racists.

Jesus Christ, be a man and have strength in your convictions.

You should just readily admit to it. Quit being little bitches about it already.

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Re: Dear Republican Friends
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2012, 07:45:41 AM »
52-47 Romney as of today. Battleground Poll (politico/GW university)

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Re: Dear Republican Friends
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2012, 07:57:50 AM »
A lot of homosexual overtones in this post.

Are you hitting on me?

Nah......I'll leave that for you and the $5 Thai ladyboys you enjoy.

8 more days and then life will get really tough for entitlement mooches like you. I can't fucking wait.

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Re: Dear Republican Friends
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2012, 09:47:22 AM »
How many business can function with out: Roads, electricity, internet, mail system, or workers who been funded by public schooling?  Or did the small town business owner create those things too?  OR does he benefit from those items to make his business BETTER?  Pull your head out of your ass

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Re: Dear Republican Friends
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2012, 11:31:14 AM »
It's always amazing to me how many people are so racist on this site all the time and then get mad when they're called racists.

Jesus Christ, be a man and have strength in your convictions.

You should just readily admit to it. Quit being little bitches about it already.



Affirmative action is the greatest form of racism in the U.S. today.

I'm against any form of preferential treatment due to race, gender, sexual orientation, or the color of your skin. That does NOT make me a racist.

The brown men on my TV who use taxpayer money to promote their agendas, like the NAACP, La Raza, or the Brown Pride movement ARE racists.


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Re: Dear Republican Friends
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2012, 11:51:07 AM »
Not a fucking chance.....white, middle class America is about to stomp a mudhole in your lazy neegul welfare bitch ass and walk it dry.

Educate yourself if you vote Romney and are middle class you are voting a tax increase for yourself. The only way you will pay less is if you make more than 250k or don't carry a mortgage. The only color you should be concerned with is green,and how much green will stay in your pocket.

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Re: Dear Republican Friends
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2012, 12:25:30 PM »
obama is a cancer

capialism made usa great and FDR caused the great depression

ayn rand and tea party are right about everything

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Re: Dear Republican Friends
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2012, 05:09:14 PM »
Nah......I'll leave that for you and the $5 Thai ladyboys you enjoy.

8 more days and then life will get really tough for entitlement mooches like you. I can't fucking wait.
How am I a mooch?

Explain.

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