Who here objects to a 50% income tax rate on earnings above $1MIL

[tbombz]

taxes are theft.

if you want to help people, help them.

dont steal from other people in order to do it.


that being said.. yes, it is POSSIBLE for us to "tax our way out of this problem".

[Shockwave]

taxes are theft.

if you want to help people, help them.

dont steal from other people in order to do it.


that being said.. yes, it is POSSIBLE for us to "tax our way out of this problem".

You seriously think you can tax the country enough (without cutting spending) to pay down the deficit?

[tbombz]

theoretically possible, absolutely.

[avxo]

I'm not worried about myself at all.  They can take back their 2-3 percent break I received.  I'd gladly pay that money back to insure that people of all walks of life have health care, SSI and an overall safety net at their disposal.  Pot, meet kettle.

You don't have to wait for them to take it back. Write a check today if you want. The details are here: http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/resources/faq/faq_publicdebt.htm#DebtFinance so now you can put your money where your noisehole is.

But something tells me you won't be rushing to get your checkbook... will you?

[Shockwave]

theoretically possible, absolutely.

Somehow I doubt it dude, but I don't know for sure.

[tbombz]

You don't have to wait for them to take it back. Write a check today if you want. The details are here: http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/resources/faq/faq_publicdebt.htm#DebtFinance so now you can put your money where your noisehole is.

But something tells me you won't be rushing to get your checkbook... will you?

i suspect he would do it.. so long as everyone else is forced to do it as well.

[tbombz]

Somehow I doubt it dude, but I don't know for sure.

we beat the germans didnt we 

[AbrahamG]

You don't have to wait for them to take it back. Write a check today if you want. The details are here: http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/resources/faq/faq_publicdebt.htm#DebtFinance so now you can put your money where your noisehole is.

But something tells me you won't be rushing to get your checkbook... will you?

I"ll never recover from this owning. 

[avxo]

I"ll never recover from this owning.  

Forget the "owning." If you'd "gladly pay that 2-3 percent break [you] received" then don't tell us that you'd be glad to give it up – just fucking do it. You don't have to wait for the politicians to take it back.

[AbrahamG]

Forget the "owning." If you'd "gladly pay that 2-3 percent break [you] received" then don't tell us that you'd be glad to give it up – just fucking do it. You don't have to wait for the politicians to take it back.

At least your finally admitting that the taxes you pay under President Obama are at historically low rates.

[avxo]

At least your finally admitting that the taxes you pay under President Obama are at historically low rates.

I am? Where?

My viewpoint is that I am forced to pay way too much in taxes to support a government of gargantuan proportions. The only proper functions of government in my political philosophy, are to provide a internal security, external security and a justice system. I would gladly pay taxes for just those things, because those are things I need and cannot get from a private enterprise.

[AbrahamG]

I am? Where?

My viewpoint is that I am forced to pay way too much in taxes to support a government of gargantuan proportions. The only proper functions of government in my political philosophy, are to provide a internal security, external security and a justice system. I would gladly pay taxes for just those things, because those are things I need and cannot get from a private enterprise.

I accept your apology.

[avxo]

I accept your apology.

 

[WOOO]

You seriously think you can tax the country enough (without cutting spending) to pay down the deficit?

it's got to be a 2-way solution... but higher taxes on the wealthy is definitely an integral part of the strategy... next, better controls (regulations) need to be put in place to reduce waste in medicare/obamacare & social security

republican deregulation has led to significant abuse of tax dollars

additionally, the US needs a new path, military spending needs to be cut by half across the board

finally, the US needs to commit to a long term DEBT (not just deficit) reduction strategy

all of these solution require a center-right approach with all 3 levels of government involved

my opinion: american'ts do not have anywhere near the intellectual maturity to get this done within my lifetime...

a canadian-european-russian-chinese invasion and conquest of the US is far more likely

[tbombz]

Who says you couldn't get security and justice through private enterprise? Lol. If there's a dollar to be Mede somewher I bet you'll find someone willing to earn it

[Groink]

LOL @ Coach acting like he makes a million dollars a year training kids in a unfurnished space in a strip mall.

unless those tires they flip around have kilos of coke in them, STFU already 

[Shockwave]

it's got to be a 2-way solution... but higher taxes on the wealthy is definitely an integral part of the strategy... next, better controls (regulations) need to be put in place to reduce waste in medicare/obamacare & social security

republican deregulation has led to significant abuse of tax dollars

additionally, the US needs a new path, military spending needs to be cut by half across the board

finally, the US needs to commit to a long term DEBT (not just deficit) reduction strategy

all of these solution require a center-right approach with all 3 levels of government involved

a canadian-european-russian-chinese invasion and conquest of the US is far more likely

I agree with most everything you've said here, actually. Especially this part.

my opinion: american'ts do not have anywhere near the intellectual maturity and intestinal fortitude to get this done within my lifetime...

I don't think you can arbitrarily slash defense spending by half either. It needs to be reduced, certainly, but there is a helluva lot of people employed by our military industrial complex to just say that were going to cut it in half. It needs to be a slow draw down.

[whork]

I agree with most everything you've said here, actually. Especially this part.

I don't think you can arbitrarily slash defense spending by half either. It needs to be reduced, certainly, but there is a helluva lot of people employed by our military industrial complex to just say that were going to cut it in half. It needs to be a slow draw down.

And a lot of jobs will be lost

[tonymctones]

And a lot of jobs will be lost

same will happen if we raise taxes, all things equal spending cuts are more effective at reducing the bottom line than tax hikes though.

[tu_holmes]

And a lot of jobs will be lost

The government doesn't create jobs right?

If it can't create them. Then it can't destroy them either.

[tbombz]

Depends on what kind of spending and what kind of taxes. There are certain programs that truld Moe economic value than they cost to operate and there are some taxes which tenrate revenue without causing a significant hit to the markets

[tonymctones]

The government doesn't create jobs right?

If it can't create them. Then it can't destroy them either.

hahahah the govt can pass legislation that helps the private sector create jobs and it can also pass legislation that causes the private sector to lose jobs...

obamacare is a prime example of a job killer.

[tbombz]

But its also a prime example of compromise and pragmatism and the triumph of the fee market over government run industry. Plus, it increases healftcare coverage tremendously.

[Shockwave]

The government doesn't create jobs right?

If it can't create them. Then it can't destroy them either.

I'm assuming your trolling, just because someone can't create something doesn't mean they can't destroy it.

[tonymctones]

But its also a prime example of compromise and pragmatism and the triumph of the fee market over government run industry. Plus, it increases healftcare coverage tremendously.

COMPROMISE???

are you fuking stoned boy?

it got what 1 republican vote, you call that compromise?