JOHN BOEHNER DECLARES..."obamacare is the law of the land"...3333 leaves country

[whork]

The facts are the GOP will not win, trying to be Democrat-lite. They will win by sticking to their principles and matching those principles to the needs of Latino and black voters.

Their principle(s) is to protect the rich at all cost

So in order to get the Latino and Black vote the need to make them rich and to not give a damn about anyone else

[whork]

The same sound plan by Obama that jacked black unemployment from 9% to nearly 15?

The same sound plan by Obama that had black youth unemployment at nearly 50%

The same sound plan by Obama that had 8% or higher unemployment for 44 of the last 46 months?

The same sound plan that has half of college grads, unable to get jobs in their fields?

Please explain this "sound economic plan" of Obama and how he's doing to do in a second term what he miserably failed to do in his first term.

I didnt know Obama had a plan

Romneys plan would make the situation worse unless you can explain how cutting taxes and and using more money on the military is going to lower the deficit?

[MCWAY]

Their principle(s) is to protect the rich at all cost

So in order to get the Latino and Black vote the need to make them rich and to not give a damn about anyone else

And the Dems' principle is to make a permanent underclass, helping the poor by adding to its ranks.

Black people have been almost monolithcally voting for Dems for DECADES. How has that worked for their wallets?

[MCWAY]

I didnt know Obama had a plan


Romneys plan would make the situation worse unless you can explain how cutting taxes and and using more money on the military is going to lower the deficit?

You say Obama has no plan. And what he did last time spiked black unemployment from 9 to nearly 15% (not to mention, spiking unemployment up across the board).

Yet, you voted for him for a second term.

And speaking of deficit, Obama was supposed to cut that in half. He didn't even come close to doing such. 

[whork]

You say Obama has no plan. And what he did last time spiked black unemployment from 9 to nearly 15% (not to mention, spiking unemployment up across the board).

Yet, you voted for him for a second term.

And speaking of deficit, Obama was supposed to cut that in half. He didn't even come close to doing such. 

You are missing the point

Whatever Obama is doing its better than Romney

Cuts + military = bigger deficit

Its math Mcway not a pro Obama thing

[Straw Man]

You say Obama has no plan. And what he did last time spiked black unemployment from 9 to nearly 15% (not to mention, spiking unemployment up across the board).

Yet, you voted for him for a second term.

And speaking of deficit, Obama was supposed to cut that in half. He didn't even come close to doing such. 

what did he do that caused black people to lose their jobs?

[tu_holmes]

what did he do that caused black people to lose their jobs?

I absolutely can not BELIEVE that anyone really attributes the UE spike to Obama... That shit happened from January 2009 to May 2009. It was ALREADY on the rise from November of 2008... All of it was related to the credit market freeze, the housing crisis and a ton of shit that happened before Obama even took office.

It's just FALSE to point the finger at Obama for that rise in UE and everyone knows it.

Now, if you want to blame him for not getting it down faster... fine... I will accept that to a point, but to attribute the RISE to him is just false.

[whork]

And the Dems' principle is to make a permanent underclass, helping the poor by adding to its ranks.

Black people have been almost monolithcally voting for Dems for DECADES. How has that worked for their wallets?

The Dem principle is to make a permanent underclass?

Why do red states have more welfare recipients then?

[tu_holmes]

The Dem principle is to make a permanent underclass?

Why do red states have more welfare recipients then?

Valid question here.

[Straw Man]

I absolutely can not BELIEVE that anyone really attributes the UE spike to Obama... That shit happened from January 2009 to May 2009. It was ALREADY on the rise from November of 2008... All of it was related to the credit market freeze, the housing crisis and a ton of shit that happened before Obama even took office.

It's just FALSE to point the finger at Obama for that rise in UE and everyone knows it.

Now, if you want to blame him for not getting it down faster... fine... I will accept that to a point, but to attribute the RISE to him is just false.

is that what McWay was referring to? 

Maybe this will help him out

[whork]

Valid question here.

Dont expect an answer from Mcway he still hasnt answered how voting Romney (tax cuts+military spending) would be better than what Obama is doing.

Thats Mcway no answer just more BS day after day

[whork]

is that what McWay was referring to? 

Maybe this will help him out

Mcway owned again

[tonymctones]

The Dem principle is to make a permanent underclass?

Why do red states have more welfare recipients then?

b/c they have more ppl, if you look at welfare per capita the majority goes to blue states

you should always look at the reasoning behind the numbers

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/eco_wel_cas_tot_fam_percap-caseloads-total-families-per-capita

[War-Horse]

And Boehner will likely pay the price for it.

I don't find it funny that I will be paying higher premiums for my family's healthcare. I don't find it funny at all that my taxes could be going up because of it.

When this becomes an unmitigated disaster, let's see how "funny and ironic" you find it.

Not true fox news boy.  You are allowed to keep your insurance the way you like it.  So all is fine in reality world.

[AbrahamG]

I absolutely can not BELIEVE that anyone really attributes the UE spike to Obama... That shit happened from January 2009 to May 2009. It was ALREADY on the rise from November of 2008... All of it was related to the credit market freeze, the housing crisis and a ton of shit that happened before Obama even took office.

It's just FALSE to point the finger at Obama for that rise in UE and everyone knows it.

Now, if you want to blame him for not getting it down faster... fine... I will accept that to a point, but to attribute the RISE to him is just false.

Exactly!  If you take out those first 4-6 months of Obama's first term, his jobs numbers are actually decent.  Even as it stands now, his last three months in office created more private sector jobs than Bush's 8 years did.  Also, if GOP Governors would have used their stimulus funds for STIMULUS rather than balancing a state budget think of how many more teachers, firefighters, police officers, etc. etc. we would have at work right now.  I'm guessing that alone adds about a point to the unemployment rate.  All this shit about Obama the Liberal, blah, blah, blah.  More government jobs have disappeared under Obama than the past 30 years combined.

[andreisdaman]

The facts are the GOP will not win, trying to be Democrat-lite. They will win by sticking to their principles and matching those principles to the needs of Latino and black voters.

uh huh...tell that to Boehner, Newt, Hannity, Rush, O'Reilly and all the rest who are now all of sudden coming out in favor of immigration reform......EVEN THOUGH THEY SAVAGED OBAMA FOR IT FOR FOUR YEARS...

funny what a huge loss will do to people

[andreisdaman]

Then, you obviously haven't been on this forum very long or seen me discuss a lot of issues.

I discuss a lot of issues. I get some right; I get some wrong. So be it.

the problem is you never admit when you are wrong

[andreisdaman]

The same sound plan by Obama that jacked black unemployment from 9% to nearly 15?

The same sound plan by Obama that had black youth unemployment at nearly 50%

The same sound plan by Obama that had 8% or higher unemployment for 44 of the last 46 months?

The same sound plan that has half of college grads, unable to get jobs in their fields?

Please explain this "sound economic plan" of Obama and how he's doing to do in a second term what he miserably failed to do in his first term.

As for military spending, I supposed you forget that military folks have families, too (as do defense contractors and communities in military regions). Not to mention pesky things just as fewer soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines and LONGER DEPLOYMENTS for those that remain.

this has always been that way..why is Obama to blame for that???

[MCWAY]

this has always been that way..why is Obama to blame for that???

We've always had 8% unemployment, half of college grads not finding jobs in their fields and half of black youth unemployed?

What are you smoking?

[MCWAY]

Dont expect an answer from Mcway he still hasnt answered how voting Romney (tax cuts+military spending) would be better than what Obama is doing.

Thats Mcway no answer just more BS day after day

One, I've answered that question several times beforehand .

Two, notice you didn't answer MY question, regarding how Obama is going to succeed in his second term, when he failed miserably in his first term, regarding unemployment, job creation and cutting the deficit in half.

You are missing the point

Whatever Obama is doing its better than Romney

Cuts + military = bigger deficit

Its math Mcway not a pro Obama thing

A stimulus that was supposed to keep unemployment under 8% had it over 8% for 44 straight months.

It's math, alright. 

[littledumbells]

And Boehner will likely pay the price for it.

I don't find it funny that I will be paying higher premiums for my family's healthcare. I don't find it funny at all that my taxes could be going up because of it.

When this becomes an unmitigated disaster, let's see how "funny and ironic" you find it.

QFT

[Archer77]

I have a few problems with Obama care but I have benefited from it.  I take a medication that costs over nine thousand dollars a month without insurance.  I would be in dire straights without the provision that bars insurance companies from denying coverage to patients with a previous condition. 

[24KT]

I have a few problems with Obama care but I have benefited from it.  I take a medication that costs over nine thousand dollars a month without insurance. I would be in dire straights without the provision that bars insurance companies from denying coverage to patients with a previous condition.  

$108,000 / yr on medication?      
DANG!!! prozac has really gone up!

{ba dum ching} sorry... couldn't resist. I'm feeling silly tonight.  

But seriously, $100K + for medication just blows my mind.

[andreisdaman]

I have a few problems with Obama care but I have benefited from it.  I take a medication that costs over nine thousand dollars a month without insurance.  I would be in dire straights without the provision that bars insurance companies from denying coverage to patients with a previous condition. 

is it anti-fag medication???

[Archer77]

is it anti-fag medication???

Even if it were, why would I take it? Nobody is taking away my love of oiled up men in thongs...NO ONE!

$108,000 / yr on medication?        
DANG!!! prozac has really gone up!

{ba dum ching} sorry... couldn't resist. I'm feeling silly tonight. 

But seriously, $100K + for medication just blows my mind.

Hahaha. Why you!  I know it's hard to resist. Wouldn't be getbig without people busting your chops.  It is expensive but with insurance I pay 80 a month.