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« on: November 13, 2012, 01:10:09 AM »

 Cool

"there is another catergory of people though, the stupid... that is not correctable. it can be identified, but can be cured in only one way... col. Colt invented the way" Grin

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdlfUEcOVSs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdlfUEcOVSs</a>
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2012, 01:22:43 AM »

how interesting  Roll Eyes

he knows a shitload more about training than you do dumbass
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2012, 01:33:40 AM »

yes training with anything other than nautilus equipment will DESTROY your skeleton

he never said that, you're putting words in his mouth

he did say something like this though "used properly, a barbell is near a miracle tool for muscle building"

also, at the end of his days he basically said that all that is needed is dips, chins, and full squats
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2012, 02:30:59 AM »

he did say that

he said humans are rotatory animals

and there for barbell weightlifting movements destroy your skeleton

and the only safe way is nautilus equipment

if you use shit form they do, but not if you use them correctly
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2012, 02:39:42 AM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBDHa-3Zk_8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBDHa-3Zk_8</a>
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2012, 04:15:39 AM »

looks like a turd
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2012, 05:41:36 AM »

Clever dude - no wonder he had that permanently pissed off look.
What exactly is he trying to get across there?
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2012, 05:51:16 AM »

Clever dude - no wonder he had that permanently pissed off look.

As a fellow genius, the pissed off look or rather being a bit pissed off all the time is unavoidable. When you are much smarter than basically everyone else, social traffic becomes extremely annoying. You're constantly not understood and you constantly have to explain things that seem evident to you. It is like this non-stop. There is never a period of rest unless you isolate yourself (which is not good neither).

Many geniuses do or did isolate themselves with of course dire consequences. You need people around you to not go crazy. Isolated people get depressed, psychotic, ... Next thing you know, you are cutting of ears and stuff like that Cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2012, 05:53:01 AM »

Arthur Jones was no different, if I recall correctly, he isolated himself in his large house, where all kinds of weird stuff was going on eventually.
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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2012, 05:55:00 AM »

As a fellow genius, the pissed off look or rather being a bit pissed off all the time is unavoidable. When you are much smarter than basically everyone else, social traffic becomes extremely annoying. You're constantly not understood and you constantly have to explain things that seem evident to you. It is like this non-stop. There is never a period of rest unless you isolate yourself (which is not good neither).

Many geniuses do or did isolate themselves with of course dire consequences. You need people around you to not go crazy. Isolated people get depressed, psychotic, ... Next thing you know, you are cutting of ears and stuff like that Cheesy


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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2012, 05:55:45 AM »

Clever dude - no wonder he had that permanently pissed off look.
What exactly is he trying to get across there?

a few things...

1. exercise is safe if done properly

2. if you are a pussy and can't handle the physical pain and discomfort of hard training then don't even bother training

3. don't trust the so-called "experts" coz they are liars and are hypocritical pieces of shit
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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2012, 06:06:36 AM »

Many geniuses do or did isolate themselves with of course dire consequences. You need people around you to not go crazy. Isolated people get depressed, psychotic, ... Next thing you know, you are cutting of ears and stuff like that Cheesy


that's true in general, but schizoid's can handle being alone and isolated
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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2012, 06:17:32 AM »

fuckin brilliant

Arthur Jones one of my all time favorite dudes in the iron game
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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2012, 06:24:35 AM »

Interesting personality for sure.
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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2012, 06:35:24 AM »

that's true in general, but schizoid's can handle being alone and isolated

Schizophrenics? Because they have voices in their head that talk to them?  Grin
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« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2012, 06:39:57 AM »

Arthur Jones was no different, if I recall correctly, he isolated himself in his large house, where all kinds of weird stuff was going on eventually.

Like what?
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« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2012, 07:02:23 AM »

Like what?

Ceremonial burning of Weider pamphlets + Lou Ferrigno voodoo doll workshops.

@Moen: I guess it's the sore feeling of a possible lynching by the legion of idiots out there due to making them understand their own stupidity.
On the other side I wouldn't underestimate a large portion of the folks out there - more clever people around than one might think... maybe it's the half full/half empty dilemma that made Jones pissed.
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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2012, 07:05:52 AM »

looks small, need mass brutally bad
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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2012, 07:05:57 AM »

Like what?

Can't remember.
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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2012, 07:24:10 AM »

a few things...

1. exercise is safe if done properly

2. if you are a pussy and can't handle the physical pain and discomfort of hard training then don't even bother training

3. don't trust the so-called "experts" coz they are liars and are hypocritical pieces of shit

You see the irony here, yes?
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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2012, 07:26:26 AM »

You see the irony here, yes?

Hmm... so Jones could have been a liar too?
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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2012, 07:26:52 AM »



Is that his speech at the Nobel prize awarding ceremony   Roll Eyes

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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2012, 07:32:34 AM »

Wiley Coyote-super genius
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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2012, 07:37:23 AM »

I have read his "Nautilius Bulletin #1" and he is clearly missing several facts which are crucial to optimise your training.

First, he believes that maximum strength can be efficiently increased by gradually increasing repetitions with constant weight without ever having to do actual lift with heavier loads. That is not true due to:
 - central nervous system adaptations required to control heavier weight
 - building balance through adapting supporting muscles

Also, increasing muscular strength through constant attempts to best your previous results is suboptimal. In order to increase strength CNS must be your primary concern, not hypertrophy. Adaptation of CNS through deloads, progression and periodization is crucial for maximum strength.
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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2012, 08:06:18 AM »

First, he believes that maximum strength can be efficiently increased by gradually increasing repetitions with constant weight without ever having to do actual lift with heavier loads.

this isn't true

he prescribed that one keep the rep range @ 6-20 reps, and for upper body to keep the rep range @ 6-12 reps, and he also said that one can go as low as 4 reps (occasionaly), but to be very careful with that, because of the increased likelyhood of injury due to using heavier training loads
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