this is about how I wana look: problem now too much bodyfat, arms pecs weak

[magikusar]

suggested routine with no gym?

getbig wisemen to the fore please

any one who has trasnformed from fat to hard without roids ++

[oldtimer1]

Don Howorth, Frank Zane and Chet Yorton. Three of the most famous bodybuilders from back in the day. Only Chet Yorton adamantly claims to be a life time natural. Even almost came to blows with Larry Scott back in the day when Scott said they all used steroids.

Get the book from Ross Training on bodyweight training. There are so many exercise that you can do with little or no equipment. Chins, dips, pushups, and many more. Add some sprints and distance running. 

[njflex]

not to discourage but for one all 3 either were ecto or ecto/meso in therms of lean thin base even at there heaviset they still had abs/shaped physique,,if you are heavy,,skinny/fat u have to go all out and no slacking,,,,

[Donny]

not to discourage but for one all 3 either were ecto or ecto/meso in therms of lean thin base even at there heaviset they still had abs/shaped physique,,if you are heavy,,skinny/fat u have to go all out and no slacking,,,,

yes and it means a good Diet, which i am sorting out myself although i have never been overweight. Some good tips in the Nutrition  section here and there are some pros and semi pros who can tell you it straight from the horses mouth.. guys who know diet and nutrition inside out.. and do not listen to the people who say do not do cardio !!

[magikusar]

Don Howorth, Frank Zane and Chet Yorton. Three of the most famous bodybuilders from back in the day. Only Chet Yorton adamantly claims to be a life time natural. Even almost came to blows with Larry Scott back in the day when Scott said they all used steroids.

Get the book from Ross Training on bodyweight training. There are so many exercise that you can do with little or no equipment. Chins, dips, pushups, and many more. Add some sprints and distance running. 

this is what I am adding, some sprints some distance and pushups

[WOOO]

this is what I am adding, some sprints some distance and pushups

all valuable... while crossfit has made a bad name for itself in some circles if you construct a good WOD type routine and focus on using good form then it's beneficial IMO

[njflex]

i like those builds shape,lean but not dried to the bone like zane achieved later but still nice look,,,i've been dry contest look 3 times very rigid,,intense,,but my look now leans towards the look zane has here,,of course i'm not comparing myself to him but its in my eyes close as i could get without seeming arrogant,,,

[magikusar]

i like those builds shape,lean but not dried to the bone like zane achieved later but still nice look,,,i've been dry contest look 3 times very rigid,,intense,,but my look now leans towards the look zane has here,,of course i'm not comparing myself to him but its in my eyes close as i could get without seeming arrogant,,,

this would be my goal

[alxcr84]

Zane the guy at his right both had incredible shoulder width to waist ratios. A type of structure not ordinarily seen in a 100% caucasian male.

[WOOO]

Zane the guy at his right both had incredible shoulder width to waist ratios. A type of structure not ordinarily seen in a 100% caucasian male.

 

the genetic variance in bone structure between the heaviest boned humans and the lightest is less than 5% is healthy people...

[alxcr84]

im talking clavicular width and hip width, in which vary greatly. The very broad clavicles paired with tiny hips is rather rare from my general observations. True, total bone mass and density probably arent significantly different, but the visual impact and performance (due to leverage advantages) differences are quite noticeable even from a distance. Hence why alot of athletes have this build. I guess it could be considered "mesoectomorphic".

[Donny]

im talking clavicular width and hip width, in which vary greatly. The very broad clavicles paired with tiny hips is rather rare from my general observations. True, total bone mass and density probably arent significantly different, but the visual impact and performance (due to leverage advantages) differences are quite noticeable even from a distance. Hence why alot of athletes have this build. I guess it could be considered "mesoectomorphic".

I have to agree his shoulder and hip ratio are noticeable, not forgeting he displayed it all well too. Top all of this with his symmetry...mental awareness and intelligence.. and you have a great Mr O

[Donny]

even into his Golden years.. his persistant search for perfection is evident..

[alxcr84]

Yeah him and Reeves has great structures, as does my 24 yr old af/american neighbor who sits inside all day, yet is fairly ripped year round, def ecto meso.

[WOOO]

im talking clavicular width and hip width, in which vary greatly. The very broad clavicles paired with tiny hips is rather rare from my general observations. True, total bone mass and density probably arent significantly different, but the visual impact and performance (due to leverage advantages) differences are quite noticeable even from a distance. Hence why alot of athletes have this build. I guess it could be considered "mesoectomorphic".

that's true

[Donny]

This is for Wooo...what do you think of this? swinging the bell up or not ? still a great show of muscle endurance...and staminia

[WOOO]

This is for Wooo...what do you think of this? swinging the bell up or not ? still a great show of muscle endurance...and staminia

i love my kettlebells... regular snatch and the compound swing snatch are both good...

i use much heavier kettlebells though... but a lot less reps (1 minute reps for time on swings)

[magikusar]

that guy looks like he is going to hurt himself


I bet he would have trouble with simple pushups and bodyweight squats.

[WOOO]

that guy looks like he is going to hurt himself


I bet he would have trouble with simple pushups and bodyweight squats.

 

[magikusar]

 

woo get your short skinny butt outa this thread

[a_ahmed]

Just a word of advice none of them were natty so keep dreaming about those kind of physiques natty...

Fact: most of the people we look up to were on so much shit and are not natural. And the ones that claim natural are also not really natural, either they use 'certain things' or have juiced at one point or another. Even superior genetics still... the same applies.

Best of luck homie.

[rusty kuntz]

Just a word of advice none of them were natty so keep dreaming about those kind of physiques natty...

Fact: most of the people we look up to were on so much shit and are not natural. And the ones that claim natural are also not really natural, either they use 'certain things' or have juiced at one point or another. Even superior genetics still... the same applies.

Best of luck homie.

I agree 100%.  Def gonna need some gear if you want to look anything like those guys.  Also gonna probably need some weights t

[dj181]

I agree 100%.  Def gonna need some gear if you want to look anything like those guys.  Also gonna probably need some weights t

take all the drugs you want, but if you got a shit structure it ain't gonna happen

[Donny]

take all the drugs you want, but if you got a shit structure it ain't gonna happen

yes i mean the foundation has to be there. I doubt very much if any Joe average can take some roids and be Mr O in a couple of years.. Genetics have to be there too.

[njflex]

yes i mean the foundation has to be there. I doubt very much if any Joe average can take some roids and be Mr O in a couple of years.. Genetics have to be there too.

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