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Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« on: November 25, 2012, 09:49:39 PM »
Did Dorian do 1 set only?

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2012, 09:50:33 PM »
yes

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2012, 09:51:59 PM »
No, no he did not.
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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2012, 09:53:37 PM »
Usually.

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2012, 10:13:11 PM »
I quite sure that he may have done more or less than 1 set.

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2012, 11:06:06 PM »
Just make sure to keep your abs tight at all times and "grow into the show."

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2012, 11:19:46 PM »
He did only 1 set to failure.  After he did 2 to 3 "warm up" sets that inexplicably didn't count. 

Like most Heavy Duty bodybuilders this was all after he built the bulk of his musculature using the volume method and vast amounts of anabolic steroids.

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2012, 02:57:32 AM »
He was never a volume trainer. He did use one set to failure. One work set. Yes, he warmed up to that one set to failure with heavy weights. The warm up wasn't a work set. Do you think anyone would take 415 lbs. in the incline press without warming up?

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2012, 04:45:24 AM »
He was never a volume trainer. He did use one set to failure. One work set. Yes, he warmed up to that one set to failure with heavy weights. The warm up wasn't a work set. Do you think anyone would take 415 lbs. in the incline press without warming up?

Methinks that the working set and non-working set line is bullshit. Just because you don't take a particular set to failure doesn't mean you didn't do the set.   

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2012, 04:48:18 AM »
dorian like most pros trained very differently at the beginning of his career than he did towards the end...

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2012, 04:54:36 AM »
no, he did only half sets

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2012, 05:02:01 AM »
For his last two Olympias all he did was one set of barbell rows to failure every 3 months.  Before that he was doing one set per month but he discovered that he was still overtraining. 

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2012, 05:04:55 AM »
For his last two Olympias all he did was one set of barbell rows to failure every 3 months.  Before that he was doing one set per month but he discovered that he was still overtraining. 


I heard on the inter-web that he just looked at the weights and that was enough to stimulate hypertrophy

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2012, 05:05:54 AM »
every set you were able to rack the weights without assistance is not failure  ::)

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2012, 05:15:08 AM »
Methinks that the working set and non-working set line is bullshit. Just because you don't take a particular set to failure doesn't mean you didn't do the set.   


nah thats not quite right,,, its a different mentality, all joking aside you just breeze through the warm ups then go hell for leather on the last one

until you try it for your self youl never understand, and if you do it propperly you wouldnt feel the need to do another few sets

you also have to have perfect piston like form and the will to force extra reps out


its not the only way to train tho, just another way to skin a cat

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2012, 05:23:18 AM »

I heard on the inter-web that he just looked at the weights and that was enough to stimulate hypertrophy



That was true for a time, but later I heard him say that the only way to really make the muscles grow was to just think about the weights.  He said that actually looking at them could lead to overtraining as well.  By the time he mastered this technique he was getting close to retirement though.  It's very advanced so regular bodybuilders wouldn't get it.   

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2012, 05:26:11 AM »
i heard a rummer he sneezed whitest deep in thought about performing a set and tore his biceps off the bone

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2012, 05:29:50 AM »
i heard a rummer he sneezed whitest deep in thought about performing a set and tore his biceps off the bone

That's actually true.  I know a guy whose freind's roommate was there when it happened. 

Dorian was fucking intense!

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2012, 05:49:52 AM »
Just make sure to keep your abs tight at all times and "grow into the show."

Dont forget the yams.

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2012, 05:58:08 AM »
when i saw dorian at the gym i was training at doing chest in 93 he did

warm up-135
warm up-225
then a somewhat working set with-315
then a harder set with -365
then an all out set with -405

he pretty much used that system for all his chest exercises that day
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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2012, 06:04:23 AM »
Sometimes

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2012, 06:12:37 AM »
for Dorian, his warm up sets didn't count; and for Jay, his warm up sets are feel sets. that's why they're bodybuilding pioneers.

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2012, 06:22:42 AM »
Did Dorian do 1 set only?

It's not so much about volume more than it is reaching a "threshold". Dorian performed multiple sets to enable a generation of intensity leading up to the final most important one. Once having achieved this desired state with the proper "dose" of exercise, a trainee will know that they have had enough of both volume and intensity- to adequately stimulate muscle growth..

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2012, 08:13:58 AM »
no he didnt.go watch his training video, he calls shoulder press with 2 and 3 plates warmup ::)

his warmup blows 99percent of the ppls entire training regimes out of the water

he pyramided the weight up while going lower in reps that is all
he actually kept the reps about the same for each set as he added weight... He did not over warmup as such.

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Re: Did dorian do 1 set to failure?
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2012, 08:18:14 AM »

nah thats not quite right,,, its a different mentality, all joking aside you just breeze through the warm ups then go hell for leather on the last one

until you try it for your self youl never understand, and if you do it propperly you wouldnt feel the need to do another few sets

you also have to have perfect piston like form and the will to force extra reps out


its not the only way to train tho, just another way to skin a cat
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