oh brother..listen there is a big difference between a natty like yourself not slamming enough wazy maize post workout and loosing a 1/8th of an inch on his 15 inch arms, vs a guy whos had 30 pounds of muscle fall off of him...youve never had the size to turned heads let alone had girls run up to you to take pictures with you
not trying to flame you I was just joking but the arm part.... but I gotta say the thing is the more gear you get a taste of and the higher quality it is the more you become dependent on it. The absolute WORST thing any guy without alot of money can do is get his hands on a few kits of pharm grade growth hormone. Because you will never train without it in your system again....no matter how many steroids you take.
my arms are 15 in. tho
i don't think you understand brother... for the past 3-4 years i have felt like utter shit after 99% of my workouts. achey joints, blood pressure, headaches, no pump, zero endorphins, aches and pains all over the place. i'm not as lean as i used to be, and a little smaller too. but i still run or hit the gym, 6 days a week. i can't give up training, and i guarantee my situation is far worse than yours. if you had to trade bodies with me for a workout, you'd probably kill yourself.
on one hand, i understand what you're saying. you're right, i never had a physique that turned heads (in clothes, at least). on the other hand, i had a physique that was damn good at one point, and i believed with enough hard work i could hang with the best of them. "if i just train hard enough, eat right, learn all the training techniques, i'll look like [insert 'natural' bber here]" i thought. well, i had to deal with the reality that i was just another also-ran white guy with okay shape and above average leanness, like every tenth kid in the gym. i had to accept the fact that i was never going to look how i'd always imagined i could. on top of that, for whatever reason (i still don't know), i started feeling like utter shit in the gym. seems like i turned into a creaky old man almost overnight -- couldn't lift shit and my everything felt broken.
still, it's nothing to bitch about. at the end of the day, i have a pretty good physique by real-world standards, and as for the rest... the mind changes over time. you say you can't possibly lift without being the superhuman gh blown-up-from-within fiend in the weight room... lol, let's see how you feel in five years. as you get older, you realize the people who
need hormones to stand out in the gym can only stand out
in a bad way. the gym rats will look ridiculous to you, brutally insecure losers who can't deal with the fact they were born into a shit life.
i'm not saying anyone who does steroids is a loser, far from it. but anyone who looks good with steroids, would also look good without them. whether or not you are a bodybuilder... this is something you are born with; you can't get it from a needle. look at guys like che, groink, go4it, falcon, or simplyhuge (does he even still post?). these guys have good muscles and, steroids or not, would stand out. these are the kind of guys that 240 lbs of bloof gym rats, hell MR. OLYMPIA competitors, look at and inwardly shit themselves with envy, because they KNOW how fast they'd be out of the limelight if these guys were on the same stuff.
it's funny how fast you'll learn, someday, to mentally strip mr. gigantic king gymrat of his muscles, leaving only the sniveling, delusional, 140 lbs soaking wet acne ridden untermensch behind. at that point you'll think back to your opening post in this thread, and realize how ridiculous it sounds.