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« Reply #50 on: December 09, 2012, 01:51:05 PM » |
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agreed so why not address it now along with tax hikes like the GOP wants to do?
Because the things the GOP wants to cut is programs that benefit those who doesn't have shit to begin with. There is no cutting the military for instance. And the Dem proposal includes cuts to entitlements.
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« Reply #51 on: December 09, 2012, 01:53:34 PM » |
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Obama ran on restoring tax rates for the rich. And he got elected. Consider it done.
Next. Where are the specifics for boehners 800 billion dollar revenue raise? Is SS in there....is mortgage deduction in there....how about eic??? Blind bluffing as usual.
hahaha and the reps in the house ran on not raising taxes and cutting spending and they won, how does that factor into your analysis? next where are the spending cuts obama ran on? does it include medicare, medicade, how he will pay for obamacare? political posturing as usual...  quit siding with big govt and stick up for the private citizens b/c after the bloated govt gets what it can from the "rich" youre next brainchild...
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« Reply #52 on: December 09, 2012, 01:55:54 PM » |
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Because the things the GOP wants to cut is programs that benefit those who doesn't have shit to begin with. There is no cutting the military for instance.
And the Dem proposal includes cuts to entitlements.
If the dems plan includes cuts to entitlements then they are cutting programs that "help ppl who dont have shit" what cuts to entitlements does the dems plan include? please show me whork, again you have no credibility here buddy. by the way most of the GOP wants to reform entitlements for ppl that arent even eligible for the programs right now, how is that cutting benefits for ppl who dont have shit? again you really need to educate yourself bro.....
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« Reply #53 on: December 09, 2012, 01:57:26 PM » |
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hahaha and the reps in the house ran on not raising taxes and cutting spending and they won, how does that factor into your analysis? next where are the spending cuts obama ran on? does it include medicare, medicade, how he will pay for obamacare? political posturing as usual...  quit siding with big govt and stick up for the private citizens b/c after the bloated govt gets what it can from the "rich" youre next brainchild... Obama just won an election if you havent noticed. He ran on higher taxes for the rich. Try again.
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« Reply #54 on: December 09, 2012, 02:01:38 PM » |
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If the dems plan includes cuts to entitlements then they are cutting programs that "help ppl who dont have shit"
what cuts to entitlements does the dems plan include?
please show me whork, again you have no credibility here buddy.
by the way most of the GOP wants to reform entitlements for ppl that arent even eligible for the programs right now, how is that cutting benefits for ppl who dont have shit?
again you really need to educate yourself bro.....
Tony i have postedlinks to support my statements i suggest you do the same instead of talking out of your ass. How do you reform entitlements for people who arent eligible?
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« Reply #55 on: December 09, 2012, 02:03:43 PM » |
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Obama just won an election if you havent noticed. He ran on higher taxes for the rich.
Try again.
Reps won their elections in the House too if you havent noticed running on the complete opposite.... where does that fit into your analysis?
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« Reply #56 on: December 09, 2012, 02:04:49 PM » |
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Tony i have postedlinks to support my statements i suggest you do the same instead of talking out of your ass. How do you reform entitlements for people who arent eligible?
LOL Holy crap dude seriously? The same way you raise taxes for only the rich.... you create legisltion that doesnt effect ppl currently receiving benefits by using age limits etc... how do you have the ability to vote LMFAO?
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Coach is Back!
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« Reply #57 on: December 09, 2012, 02:05:19 PM » |
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Obama just won an election if you havent noticed. He ran on higher taxes for the rich.
Try again.
Because like you, the voters he targeted fell for it because they don't get it. If they get wealthy on their own they sure as hell wouldn't want their hard earned money CONFISCATED by the government. Some people are easily brainwashed.
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« Reply #58 on: December 09, 2012, 02:09:15 PM » |
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I can see why the GOP is dying. Focus on the negative. Hate the middle class. Hate anyone different. Cant wait for 2014......gonna be some suicides on this board..LMAO
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« Reply #59 on: December 09, 2012, 02:12:48 PM » |
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I can see why the GOP is dying. Focus on the negative. Hate the middle class. Hate anyone different. Cant wait for 2014......gonna be some suicides on this board..LMAO
LOL just like 2010 eh? against illegal immigration = hates immigrants dont want new taxes = hates poor ppl wants ppl to keep more of their own money = hates poor ppl only in the mind of a propaganda riddled mind of a liberal does this make sense.
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« Reply #60 on: December 09, 2012, 02:21:34 PM » |
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hahah 2014 will indeed be a fun time around here.
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Coach is Back!
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« Reply #61 on: December 09, 2012, 02:28:14 PM » |
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LOL just like 2010 eh?
against illegal immigration = hates immigrants dont want new taxes = hates poor ppl wants ppl to keep more of their own money = hates poor ppl
only in the mind of a propaganda riddled mind of a liberal does this make sense.
Don't forget racist, we're racist as well. Even more racist than the left. lol
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« Reply #62 on: December 09, 2012, 02:32:17 PM » |
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i would assume that the very rich as PATRIOTS and must love their country MORE than poorer american'ts...
they must feel GOOD about giving back to the country that made them rich...
if not, then I say freeze all of their assets and export them to russia..
you american'ts are a funny selfish and contradictory bunch
fun to watch from up here
I think this is where most of us are divided. Some see it as giving back to their country, while the rest of us see it for what it really is. Squandering money for foolish politicians to waste. We need a federal government that's about 10% of its current size. That's not going to happen by feeding it trillions of dollars.
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« Reply #63 on: December 09, 2012, 02:33:25 PM » |
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I think this is where most of us are divided. Some see it as giving back to their country, while the rest of us see it for what it really is. Squandering money for foolish politicians to waste. We need a federal government that's about 10% of its current size. That's not going to happen by feeding it trillions of dollars.
exactly, some ppl seem to think we can spend our way out of debt
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« Reply #64 on: December 09, 2012, 02:37:26 PM » |
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exactly, some ppl seem to think we can spend our way out of debt
Yeah, beyond national defense, some infrastructure, and courts we (decent people like you and I  ) really don't need much Federal government.
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« Reply #65 on: December 09, 2012, 07:15:27 PM » |
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Because the things the GOP wants to cut is programs that benefit those who doesn't have shit to begin with. There is no cutting the military for instance.
And the Dem proposal includes cuts to entitlements.
Yes there is. The Ryan budget gives modest cuts...I believe around 60 billion. Problem is, he stuck in there repealing Obama care. It's all back and forth shit.
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« Reply #66 on: December 09, 2012, 07:16:43 PM » |
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« Reply #67 on: December 10, 2012, 09:08:48 AM » |
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LOL Holy crap dude seriously?
The same way you raise taxes for only the rich....
you create legisltion that doesnt effect ppl currently receiving benefits by using age limits etc...
how do you have the ability to vote LMFAO?
You attacked Obama for making cuts to future spending. When you create legislation that effect people in the future what do you call that?
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« Reply #68 on: December 10, 2012, 09:11:52 AM » |
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But who pays a higher percentage of their income on taxes like the sales tax or gas tax. 6% on the dollar means a lot more to a person making fifty grand a year than it does to a millionaire.
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« Reply #69 on: December 10, 2012, 09:24:36 AM » |
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But who pays a higher percentage of their income on taxes like the sales tax or gas tax. 6% on the dollar means a lot more to a person making fifty grand a year than it does to a millionaire.
EXACTLY!! And when you raise taxes on millionaires, guess how they recoup their money.....BY RAISING TAXES like the gas tax, as well as prices on goods and services. And, when the government doesn't get enough from the millionaires, guess whose pockets they'll be raiding next.
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« Reply #70 on: December 10, 2012, 09:28:52 AM » |
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EXACTLY!! And when you raise taxes on millionaires, guess how they recoup their money.....BY RAISING TAXES like the gas tax, as well as prices on goods and services.
And, when the government doesn't get enough from the millionaires, guess whose pockets they'll be raiding next.
Without cutting spending for real, raising taxes is just a punitive measure by the vandals and criminal liberals to piss away more $$$$ on ball washing programs, pet mice farms, etc.
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« Reply #71 on: December 10, 2012, 09:30:26 AM » |
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don't know why all the post on this topic,the rate is going up on the 1% no matter how much you cry about it
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« Reply #72 on: December 10, 2012, 09:32:32 AM » |
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don't know why all the post on this topic,the rate is going up on the 1% no matter how much you cry about it
It's going up on ALL of us....That's why.
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« Reply #73 on: December 10, 2012, 09:33:47 AM » |
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don't know why all the post on this topic,the rate is going up on the 1% no matter how much you cry about it
And to do what w the $$$$$ exactly? More food stamps, welfare, pot coke and booze in the WH, etc.
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« Reply #74 on: December 10, 2012, 09:43:05 AM » |
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EXACTLY!! And when you raise taxes on millionaires, guess how they recoup their money.....BY RAISING TAXES like the gas tax, as well as prices on goods and services.
And, when the government doesn't get enough from the millionaires, guess whose pockets they'll be raiding next.
Lol i see you have studied economy Mcway 
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