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Re: Union Thugs get violent and assault man at rally.
« Reply #50 on: December 14, 2012, 11:47:11 AM »
Right now every company has a hundred applications on the desk. So you are expendable. Until it becomes a "Workers market" where theirs a shortage of workers...then wages will stay low.




Well, then you are depending on the niceness and compassion of upper management. Some like to have a back-up knowing they have a job to go to.


But yes. As an employer I see both sides.

I see both sides, but not as an employer. I've been in mid/upper management and dealt with the contracts of certain employees. The amount of money the company has determined if those contracts get renewed and/or upgraded vs. their being reduced or terminated.


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Re: Union Thugs get violent and assault man at rally.
« Reply #52 on: December 15, 2012, 04:49:47 AM »
Worse off? Hardly!!


Try employees in right-to-work (RTW) states having up to $4300 more in purchasing power and the top 5 states (in terms of low unemployment) being RTW states, with the state highest in unemployment being forced union states.

History shows that Michigan's citizens will soon be saying that the state's new "Right to Work" law is "a good thing for Michigan," National Right to Work Pres. Mark Mix explains.....


"Indiana, I believe, has led the nation in new private sector job growth since they passed the Right to Work law in February. The economic development department out in Indiana has indicated there have been 90 new deals of companies that have come and said 'we're interested - now that you're in a Right to Work state - to either expand or relocate in your state.' So, it has had a dramatic impact on the economic activity in the state of Indiana."

Mix notes that workers in Right to Work states not only tend to have as much as $4,300 more purchasing power, but also are more likely to have health insurance:

"And if you look at the other 22 Right to Work states, you find when it relates to private sector job growth, when it relates to increase in private sector per-capita purchasing power, or adjusted for cost of living, you find those states are doing much better.

"So, there's lots of data out there that talks about this, including a study from the George Mason Department of Economics. They did a study when, adjusting wages for cost of living, they found workers in Right to Work states have about $2,300 more to spend than workers in forced-unionism states.

"Dr. Barry Poulsen, from the University of Colorado, did a study using a similar study about cost of living. He found that there was a $4,300 advantage in Right to Work states for purchasing power for workers who were in Right to Work states versus states that allowed forced unionism."

"In fact, the percentage of workers covered by healthcare increase dramatically in Right to Work states and decrease in states that don't have Right to Work."

"So the metrics are out there. But most importantly, this is about individual freedom in the workplace."

Studies show that Right to Work states also have lower unemployment due to their more business-friendly environment, Mix says:

"Looking at the Bureau of Census data, and looking at the Bureau of Economic Analysis data, and then looking at some regional think-tanks and economic forecasting statistical aggregators, we find this data.

"It's pretty straight forward. In The Washington Times today (Tuesday), actually, there's a chart where it talks about the lowest states with unemployment. The top five states with the lowest unemployment are Right to Work states. The bottom five are forced-unionism states.

"In the standpoint of places to do business, CNBC ranks the states on the business climate. The top five are Right to Work states, the bottom are non-Right to Work states.



http://cnsnews.com/node/618195

Heck, the auto industry is going south.....LITERALLY, as more car companies are moving to southern right-to-work states.




why do you think they are moving south? wouldn't be lower costs due to lower wages.UE is lower because the wages are lower, more people can be hired, this isn't raising the standard of living. In fact it is lowering it.

Wages are lower in RTW, more accidents, poorer education, less benefits.

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Re: Union Thugs get violent and assault man at rally.
« Reply #53 on: December 15, 2012, 07:53:36 AM »
why do you think they are moving south? wouldn't be lower costs due to lower wages.UE is lower because the wages are lower, more people can be hired, this isn't raising the standard of living. In fact it is lowering it.

Wages are lower in RTW, more accidents, poorer education, less benefits.
Cost of living is generally lower in areas you described as well I wonder of anyone has ever done a study taking into account cost of living?

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Re: Union Thugs get violent and assault man at rally.
« Reply #54 on: December 15, 2012, 09:51:37 AM »
Cost of living is generally lower in areas you described as well I wonder of anyone has ever done a study taking into account cost of living?

not sure but we know that wages go down in those states so that is peripheral point. what it does indicate is that RTW states have lower wages, which makes sense.

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Re: Union Thugs get violent and assault man at rally.
« Reply #55 on: December 15, 2012, 04:53:39 PM »
not sure but we know that wages go down in those states so that is peripheral point. what it does indicate is that RTW states have lower wages, which makes sense.

Wages go down. But, your dollar goes further in RTW states. That's why I mentioned the $4300 in purchasing power. Not to mention, many of these RTW states have NO STATE TAXES (i.e. Florida, Texas). So, more of that money is going in the pockets of the workers, instead of state governments' coffers.

That's why military members tend to either change their home of record to places like Texas or Florida, once they get stationed there. Or, if they are from those areas originally, they keep that state as their home of record. Even if they get stationed somewhere with high state taxes like Maryland or Connecticut, as long as a state like Texas or Florida is their home of record, their incomes aren't taxed at the rates of where their current duty stations are located.


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Re: Union Thugs get violent and assault man at rally.
« Reply #56 on: December 15, 2012, 04:56:59 PM »
I live in Michigan.  I hope when someone at a Ford, GM or Chrysler plant decides NOT to pay their dues and accept all the benefits that they are made an example of and beaten within an inch of their life or worse.  The only good republican is a DEAD republican.

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Re: Union Thugs get violent and assault man at rally.
« Reply #57 on: December 15, 2012, 04:58:05 PM »
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/41332_Another_Breitbart_Fake_Outrage_Bites_the_Dust-_Crowder_Admits_He_Shoved_Union_Members

What bites the dust is this ridiculous claim. If the union members are destroying the tent, with people inside of them who could get injured, THEY (not Crowder) are the aggressors. The folks for Americans for Prosperity got the license/permit to be in that spot. Do these folks at "littlegreenfootballs" really expect for people to just stand by and let a tent, filled with equipment, collapse on them without trying to defend themselves from those destroying their property?

Those union goons have no business, trying to destroy their tent. And NONE OF THIS shows that Crowder shoved the guy that cracked him in the mouth.

Not to mention, there are the little matters of the guy who yanked Crowder to the ground AFTER that fight with the first union goon....AND the black hot dog vendor, who got his merchandise destroyed and called racial slurs.

What do the folks of "littlegreenfootballs" have to say about that?

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Re: Union Thugs get violent and assault man at rally.
« Reply #58 on: December 15, 2012, 08:13:01 PM »
not sure but we know that wages go down in those states so that is peripheral point. what it does indicate is that RTW states have lower wages, which makes sense.
do you really need it explained to you?

if the cost of living is lower then EVERYONE gets paid less regardless of union influence...

you get paid alot more to do the same job in San francisco as opposed to Houston b/c the cost of living is much lower in Houston.

Wow just fuking wow....

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Re: Union Thugs get violent and assault man at rally.
« Reply #59 on: December 16, 2012, 01:24:36 PM »
do you really need it explained to you?

if the cost of living is lower then EVERYONE gets paid less regardless of union influence...

you get paid alot more to do the same job in San francisco as opposed to Houston b/c the cost of living is much lower in Houston.

Wow just fuking wow....


holy fuck, relative to before the legislation you ass monkey

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Re: Union Thugs get violent and assault man at rally.
« Reply #60 on: December 16, 2012, 06:01:30 PM »
UNIONS CREATE FAT LAZY RETARDS LIKE THE ONES SEEN IN THIS CLIP, they want to be overpaid for under working, they have ruined first world economies and are responsible for the rapid demise of the first world.  First World productivity is now fucked because of Unions, manufacturers and Business have taken their JOBS elsewhere because the ridiculous demands of UNIONS would have seen them go bankrupt otherwise.  It won't be long now until China is running things, thanks to these fat overpaid lazy Union Fuckups!
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Re: Union Thugs get violent and assault man at rally.
« Reply #61 on: December 16, 2012, 06:04:46 PM »
The right-to-work law says you CANNOT force someone to join a union and pay due, as a condition of employment.


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Re: Union Thugs get violent and assault man at rally.
« Reply #62 on: December 16, 2012, 06:07:40 PM »
Unions aren't being banned. Forcing people to join them (and pay dues) IS.

If unions were so great, people would be lining up to be a part of them, NOT fleeing them in droves.
Hear, Hear - If Unions weren't infiltrated by Mobsters and Thugs and actually benefited workers, people would be fighting each other to sign up, but any organisation that uses stand over tactics or threats to get people to join or stay in UNIONS is to be avoided.  Not to mention the high levels of corruption attributed to the majority of UNIONS.
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Re: Union Thugs get violent and assault man at rally.
« Reply #63 on: December 18, 2012, 08:10:01 AM »
What bites the dust is this ridiculous claim. If the union members are destroying the tent, with people inside of them who could get injured, THEY (not Crowder) are the aggressors. The folks for Americans for Prosperity got the license/permit to be in that spot. Do these folks at "littlegreenfootballs" really expect for people to just stand by and let a tent, filled with equipment, collapse on them without trying to defend themselves from those destroying their property?

Those union goons have no business, trying to destroy their tent. And NONE OF THIS shows that Crowder shoved the guy that cracked him in the mouth.

Not to mention, there are the little matters of the guy who yanked Crowder to the ground AFTER that fight with the first union goon....AND the black hot dog vendor, who got his merchandise destroyed and called racial slurs.

What do the folks of "littlegreenfootballs" have to say about that?

you always go on and on about others demanding things, now you support people who can choose not to pay union dues and received union benefits, it's freeloading at it's finest.

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Re: Union Thugs get violent and assault man at rally.
« Reply #64 on: December 18, 2012, 01:48:06 PM »
you always go on and on about others demanding things, now you support people who can choose not to pay union dues and received union benefits, it's freeloading at it's finest.

Many of them DON'T WANT union benefits. They want no association with the unions, whatsoever.

And the benefits they get from work are from THE EMPLOYER, not the union.

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Re: Union Thugs get violent and assault man at rally.
« Reply #65 on: December 20, 2012, 11:18:27 AM »

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Re: Union Thugs get violent and assault man at rally.
« Reply #66 on: December 20, 2012, 11:24:42 AM »


So where is all this footage of Crowder, shoving the guy who hit him in the mouth?

And, I'm sure Crowder made up the guy, who yanked his hood while his back was turned.