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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #600 on: February 07, 2017, 12:47:26 PM »
Who would take 3 knees to kick a 40 yard field goal?
If Atlanta was playing conservatively Ryan would never thrown that pass to Jones.
Nothing is a given in your scenarios...


agree.  Why take a knee, but why pass?  Freeman started the drive with a massive run.  Once they got to the 20 they needed to be in clock killing mode.  Their defense was tired and just allowed 19 straight points.  At that point run, run, run. If they got a first they could have run it down to 2:00, then they could have given No under a minute to score twice. Still be aggressive with the run but kill the clock and either setup a short field goal or hope to get close enough to the endzone for a TD.  But passing and getting sacked and a penalty to make it 3 and 33 was retarded.

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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #601 on: February 07, 2017, 12:57:07 PM »
Who would take 3 knees to kick a 40 yard field goal?
If Atlanta was playing conservatively Ryan would never thrown that pass to Jones.
Nothing is a given in your scenarios...


Once they get to the 22 yard line, and have the best FG kicker in the league kicking in a dome, you don't risk falling out of FG range.  If you don't like the knee scenario, 3 running plays then.  They had a 96.6 win prob at that point, pre field goal.
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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #602 on: February 07, 2017, 04:03:47 PM »
Why was gronk on the mic at their parade today? Didn't that team prove they don't need his juvenile ass to win?

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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #603 on: February 07, 2017, 04:23:53 PM »
Why was gronk on the mic at their parade today? Didn't that team prove they don't need his juvenile ass to win?

Yes..yes they did prove it. :D


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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #604 on: February 07, 2017, 04:32:52 PM »
The line was 3, they won by 6.

I saw lines of 6 & 10 the night before.

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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #605 on: February 07, 2017, 04:44:28 PM »

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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #606 on: February 07, 2017, 05:14:05 PM »
I saw lines of 6 & 10 the night before.

Lines of coke don't count.

Seriously though, I don't think the casinos had that.  The bookmakers in NE had it at -4.5, and that's inflated because of the region.
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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #607 on: February 07, 2017, 05:56:02 PM »
Yes..yes they did prove it. :D



Marty Falcone looking good here.
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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #608 on: February 07, 2017, 07:10:40 PM »

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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #609 on: February 07, 2017, 08:59:02 PM »
1: Tom Brady
2: Jerry Rice
3: Jim Brown

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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #610 on: February 07, 2017, 09:01:41 PM »
Lines of coke don't count.

Seriously though, I don't think the casinos had that.  The bookmakers in NE had it at -4.5, and that's inflated because of the region.

Not a coke guy. I like mt dew... And painkillers. ;)

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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #611 on: February 08, 2017, 06:29:51 PM »

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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #612 on: February 08, 2017, 06:31:31 PM »
Perhaps.

QB, no question.

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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #613 on: February 08, 2017, 06:49:05 PM »
Why was gronk on the mic at their parade today? Didn't that team prove they don't need his juvenile ass to win?

he helped them get that far
cmon now
Gronk is awesome
I hope he rehabs n comes back, many say they will trade him...

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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #614 on: February 08, 2017, 06:55:32 PM »
Why was gronk on the mic at their parade today? Didn't that team prove they don't need his juvenile ass to win?

They didn't need him to win but he sure would have made it easier.

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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #615 on: February 08, 2017, 07:04:08 PM »
They didn't need him to win but he sure would have made it easier.

Bennet played well but not sure if they will pay him what he wants next season. Would be nice to have them both.

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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #616 on: February 08, 2017, 07:09:18 PM »
Tom Brady went up inside Dan Quinn raw and dry, like Trump did to Hillary.

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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #617 on: February 08, 2017, 07:36:45 PM »
I'm comfortable saying he's the best QB ever but the best player?  I don't think it's possible to get consensus on that one.  Much different than say basketball where Jordan reigns supreme.

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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #618 on: February 08, 2017, 07:53:00 PM »
I'm comfortable saying he's the best QB ever but the best player?  I don't think it's possible to get consensus on that one.  Much different than say basketball where Jordan reigns supreme.

Doesn't the best QB have to be the best player? He handles the ball about 3 times as much as the next player.

Also, if we're using the Superbowl win to solidify his #1 standing, would he not be thought of as the best had they lost in overtime? ...what if Amendola was stopped short on the 2 point conversion?

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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #619 on: February 08, 2017, 09:45:07 PM »
Doesn't the best QB have to be the best player? He handles the ball about 3 times as much as the next player.

Also, if we're using the Superbowl win to solidify his #1 standing, would he not be thought of as the best had they lost in overtime? ...what if Amendola was stopped short on the 2 point conversion?

What about a guy like Deon Sanders?  Not saying he's the greatest player of all time, but he played both sides of the ball and was elite both ways.  Just food for thought. 

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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #620 on: February 09, 2017, 10:51:58 AM »
Montana
Brady
Elway
Marino
payton
sanders (Barry)
Lile Alzaido or however u spell it
rice
taylor

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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #621 on: February 09, 2017, 11:28:48 AM »
Montana
Brady
Elway
Marino
payton
sanders (Barry)
Lile Alzaido or however u spell it
rice
taylor

Marino above Lawrence Taylor?

No, never.

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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #622 on: February 09, 2017, 11:44:13 AM »
I'm comfortable saying he's the best QB ever but the best player?  I don't think it's possible to get consensus on that one.  Much different than say basketball where Jordan reigns supreme.

I don't think Brady could run 100 yards without getting winded but yes, he can stand back there and hit targets like no ones business.  The guy has gone through about 6 OCs yet still keeps on ticking.  How many Wideouts have come and gone and he still keeps going.  Crazy seeing how often his lineup changes and still is able to play consistently.  Those that think Gronk is amazing have to realize who's throwing to him because without him their offense doesn't skip a beat.

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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #623 on: February 09, 2017, 12:53:39 PM »
peyton manning was better than him many years

if brady is the best, manning is at least top 5

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Re: Is Tom Brady The Best Football Player Ever?
« Reply #624 on: February 09, 2017, 01:43:10 PM »
peyton manning was better than him many years


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In the regular season.