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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #600 on: December 15, 2012, 07:08:29 AM »

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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #601 on: December 15, 2012, 07:09:17 AM »
* Since the outset of the Chicago handgun ban, the percentage of Chicago murders committed with handguns has averaged about 40% higher than it was before the law took effect.[55]

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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #602 on: December 15, 2012, 07:09:57 AM »

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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #603 on: December 15, 2012, 07:10:58 AM »

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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #604 on: December 15, 2012, 07:11:02 AM »
* Since the outset of the Chicago handgun ban, the percentage of Chicago murders committed with handguns has averaged about 40% higher than it was before the law took effect.[55]
Chicago is a shit argument, because it's not true gun control, as all the states neighboring it weren't under the law.

These stats are made much more meaningless when you factor in herion and the crack epidemic.

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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #605 on: December 15, 2012, 07:11:40 AM »

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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #606 on: December 15, 2012, 07:12:33 AM »
Chicago is a shit argument, because it's not true gun control, as all the states neighboring it weren't under the law.

These stats are made much more meaningless when you factor in herion and the crack epidemic.
ROFLMAO!

Crack and Heroin shoot guns from Michigan so therefore the murder rate in Chicago has increased?  ???

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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #607 on: December 15, 2012, 07:13:49 AM »

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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #608 on: December 15, 2012, 07:14:25 AM »
ROFLMAO!

Crack and Heroin shoot guns from Michigan so therefore the murder rate in Chicago has increased?  ???
Whatever dude, it's well established the crack epidemic of the mid to late 80's put crime through the roof. The same herion in the uk did much the same.



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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #609 on: December 15, 2012, 07:15:24 AM »

Yep and dc was hit in 1985 with crack. That's basic american history. It took a little longer to spread to other regions of the states, but it's well known.

In fact all your proven is that there is no relationship to gun laws on state levels and the amount of killings period.

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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #610 on: December 15, 2012, 07:15:37 AM »
Whatever dude, it's well established the crack epidemic of the mid to late 80's put crime through the roof. The same herion in the uk did much the same.



Whats that got to do with handguns?

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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #611 on: December 15, 2012, 07:17:15 AM »
Whats that got to do with handguns?
Answer your fucking question I'm done with this. You know I'm spot on with this and yet you still insist on trying to sidetrack it.

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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #612 on: December 15, 2012, 07:19:52 AM »
Answer your fucking question I'm done with this. You know I'm spot on with this and yet you still insist on trying to sidetrack it.
What question and its obvious you couldn`t be more wrong than anything.

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A lot of good those gun banning laws did.  :D

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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #614 on: December 15, 2012, 07:22:44 AM »

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« Reply #615 on: December 15, 2012, 07:26:59 AM »
True Adonis, the above graphs show a definite correlation, but obviously do not show cause and effect. So you know its hard to pinpoint a drop in crime solely to gun ownership. Gun ownership may just be ONE factor in determining  a decrease in crime.
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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #616 on: December 15, 2012, 07:28:22 AM »
too much freedom .. way too much freedom in America that;s the reason .

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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #617 on: December 15, 2012, 07:36:56 AM »
True Adonis, the above graphs show a definite correlation, but obviously do not show cause and effect. So you know its hard to pinpoint a drop in crime solely to gun ownership. Gun ownership may just be ONE factor in determining  a decrease in crime.
The funny thing is the last graph he posted there was a concurrent OVERALL decline in violence in the rest of the states (pink line) as the right to carry gun laws were instituted which i presume is claiming to have had an affect on crime. So effectively there is very little correlation.
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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #618 on: December 15, 2012, 07:41:29 AM »
The funny thing is the last graph he posted there was a concurrent OVERALL decline in violence in the rest of the states (pink line) as the right to carry gun laws were instituted which i presume is claiming to have had an affect on crime. So effectively there is very little correlation.

ahhh, yes, there was an OVERALL decline in crime rate when comparing specific states to the rest of the USA.
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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #619 on: December 15, 2012, 07:43:14 AM »
What question and its obvious you couldn`t be more wrong than anything.

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A lot of good those gun banning laws did.  :D
As I said, your only argument is that it's impossible to enforce these laws. Because america is saturated with guns and has a shit border.

If you stick to this one singular point, you have an argument.

What you fail to realize is, your not right because your philosophically right, your right because you've been wrong for so fucking long there's nothing that can be done about it.

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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #620 on: December 15, 2012, 07:44:02 AM »
The funny thing is the last graph he posted there was a concurrent OVERALL decline in violence in the rest of the states (pink line) as the right to carry gun laws were instituted which i presume is claiming to have had an affect on crime. So effectively there is very little correlation.
A couple of things:

These graphs show that in states with gun bans, they were completely ineffective.  Also, these graphs also show that since the Right to Carry has been established, the crime rate has been lowered to match or go below the national average with a continual trend downward.

What does this mean?  This means that allowing citizens to own and carry guns DOES NOT increase murder rates and it shows a trend of keeping within or below the national average so what would be the point of restricting this freedom?

As you can see, there would be absolutely no point.  THAT is how you interpret these graphs correctly.

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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #621 on: December 15, 2012, 07:45:29 AM »
But how do you know a drop in murder rates was solely due to gun ownership?
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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
« Reply #622 on: December 15, 2012, 07:46:36 AM »
Some of those reporters should be fukcing shot. They were interviewing 6 year old kids right after shit went down. I would have knocked the reporter the fck out if I saw that go down. Asking fukcing babies to relive what they just seen is what therapist are for years later. They (the reporters) probably went there with order s from their superiors(the Hierarchy) to get the kids to talk. Unbelievable.

Journalists are generally low life gutter scum, see current  UK media and govt pedophile cover up they have been maintaining for decades.

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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #623 on: December 15, 2012, 07:46:55 AM »
ahhh, yes, there was an OVERALL decline in crime rate when comparing specific states to the rest of the USA.
This totally supports my Pro-Gun argument as I stated above.  There is no ill effect on letting citizens have the right to Conceal and Carry.  This is precisely what is being shown so why try and take this right away since it poses absolutely ZERO threat.

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Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
« Reply #624 on: December 15, 2012, 07:48:00 AM »
But how do you know a drop in murder rates was solely due to gun ownership?
We know murder rates haven`t increased due to more gun ownership.  So why should we ban gun ownership?