Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?

[Nirvana]

great site.

i've mentioned this before, a few years' back when people were contemplating the afterlife on here...
i met someone (an adult), who, when he was around 10 or so, drowned, and died. he was swimming in a river, got hit/caught somehow on branches etc and went under and drowned.
he said everything just fizzled out and went to a tiny white dot in his brain, (much like an old black and white tv set being turned off) which then disappeared, ie the moment he died. there was no tunnel of white light, angels, st. peter, god, allah, any of those imaginary figures, not even his granny showed up to welcome him to the next plane - there was absolutely nothing.
he was resuccitated on the riverbank after a few minutes, so he was most definitely dead for a period of time.

kinda sums up the whole non-existance of heaven, afterlife, fucking virgins for all eternity bullshit for me really....

quite cool to have met someone who'd actually died tho  

that's funny, other people who have died said the exact opposite. 

who do we believe?!!? 

[The Scott]

ok lets see, it doesnt seem to be on earth.

now, outside the earth, in the universe, its not habitable, its either too cold or too hot in space, depending where you are.

another thing is, it requires physical death to get there afaik, so how the ones of muslim faith think they will benefit from the virgins promised to them?

 

Look, I have no idea where heaven may or may not be, okay?  Neither am I a "religious nutcase", any more than you are an atheistic moron.  As for Islam, I could care less about it.  It is the so-called "faith"  of a pedophile sodomite.

[Palpatine Q]

somewhere there are aliens laughing at us for thinking they are gods and making up this crazy story that billions follow, when they can't even pay their alien cable bill

[Palpatine Q]

If we ever evolve to the point of intergalactic travel, and happen upon a civilization in it's infancy, i'm sure they will think we are "Gods" too.

[viking1]

[tbombz]

According the the big bang theory time began with the big bang, there was no time before that.  But it is still just a theory and I think we haven't been around long enough to come up with one that answers all things.  The dinosaurs ruled for 160 million years, how long will man rule?  I can't see us being here for another 5000 years.

according to the big bang theory the observable contents of the universe can be traced back to an extremely hot and dense state that eexpanded and cooled out into what we now observe as the cosmos.

it doesnt pretend to know how long that dense and hot state existed before expanding, nor does it pretend to know what existed outside of that dense and hot state.

its only the foolish and ignorant who say that "time began" at the big bang

[daddy8ball]

according to the big bang theory the observable contents of the universe can be traced back to an extremely hot and dense state that eexpanded and cooled out into what we now observe as the cosmos.

it doesnt pretend to know how long that dense and hot state existed before expanding, nor does it pretend to know what existed outside of that dense and hot state.

its only the foolish and ignorant who say that "time began" at the big bang

What created the "hot dense state"? It just doesn't magically appear from nothing.

[andreisdaman]

according to the big bang theory the observable contents of the universe can be traced back to an extremely hot and dense state that eexpanded and cooled out into what we now observe as the cosmos.

it doesnt pretend to know how long that dense and hot state existed before expanding, nor does it pretend to know what existed outside of that dense and hot state.

its only the foolish and ignorant who say that "time began" at the big bang

I think you're half right on this...Time as WE KNOW IT did start at the big bang since that is the reference point that we use as the beginning of the universe..but time was always there......its eternal

[cephissus]

jesus, matter can neither be CREATED nor destroyed, why can your god be eternal but something that exists and has this very property not?  

It's expanding into nothing, you are asking for a border because you know nothing of physics and your mind dictates one. However, whats outside that ad infinitium. It's nothing the universe by definition is all there is.

great post!

"the universe is expanding"

[magikusar]

I am not jewish so can't comment.

[Radical Plato]

its only the foolish and ignorant who say that "time began" at the big bang

You do realise that Stephen hawking has theorised that Time began at THE BIG BANG, hard to know who to believe, a delusional getbigger or the worlds smartest physicist!

 Science will win because it works.

[Alex23]

Obviously no one has any knowledge about the supernatural.  Why you pose these questions as if they somehow make the existence of the unknown less likely, is beyond me.

[Desolate]

You do realise that Stephen hawking has theorised that Time began at THE BIG BANG, hard to know who to believe, a delusional getbigger or the worlds smartest physicist!

 Science will win because it works.

While I agree that time (as we understand it) starting at The Big Bang, a theory is just an opinion.

Hence the word... theory.

[Radical Plato]

While I agree that time (as we understand it) starting at The Big Bang, a theory is just an opinion.

What you stated is an Opinion, not a theory.  A theory can be supported by facts and evidence, while an opinion is only what someone feels is true.  Theories and Opinions and not the same, they are completely different.  A Theory is an idea that can be tested or a testable concept that is used to explain an occurrence. For example, the science behind air flight is based on theories! Verifiable theories!  If it was my opinion that a helicopter couldn't fly, it wouldn't affect the reality that it could.

[PJim]

 

[Man of Steel]

ok lets see, it doesnt seem to be on earth.

now, outside the earth, in the universe, its not habitable, its either too cold or too hot in space, depending where you are.

another thing is, it requires physical death to get there afaik, so how the ones of muslim faith think they will benefit from the virgins promised to them?

 

I assume for the sake of this thread that "religious nutcases" refers to theists in general or anyone with religious beliefs?   Although, this thread also appeared to call out Muslims specifically, but from an evangelical, born again Christian, bible beating, uneducated, moronic, religious nutcase perspective I assume you're referring to the "third heaven"?  Not necessarily the heavens in which we can see the birds flying through or the heavens in which the stars and planets are seen, but that heaven or "paradise" that is beyond our ability to see where God the Father resides?  If that's the question then Christian scripture indicates it being located in the northern heavens beyond the stars.   Where is it located exactly?  I don't know.

Again, this is just a Christian, religious nutcase perspective....thanks!!

[che]

I assume for the sake of this thread that "religious nutcases" refers to theists in general or anyone with religious beliefs?   Although, this thread also appeared to call out Muslims specifically, but from an evangelical, born again Christian, bible beating, religious nutcase perspective I assume you're referring to the "third heaven"?  Not necessarily the heavens in which we can see the birds flying through or the heavens in which the stars and planets are seen, but that heaven or "paradise" that is beyond our ability to see where God the Father resides?  If that's the question then Christian scripture indicates it being located in the northern heavens beyond the stars.   Where is it located exactly?  I don't know.

Again, this is just a Christian, religious nutcase perspective....thanks!!

Amen

[SF1900]

I love reading Tdongz posts. He is always trying to keep up with others in debates like these, and always gets OWNED! lol

[WOOO]

I love reading Tdongz posts. He is always trying to keep up with others in debates like these, and always gets OWNED! lol

tdongz is a funny name

[che]

Maybe God didn't always exist. I actually think that he created himself. which implies that there was a period of non-existence, and then god created himself... got lonely, and created existence

You are a retard

[Necrosis]

according to the big bang theory the observable contents of the universe can be traced back to an extremely hot and dense state that eexpanded and cooled out into what we now observe as the cosmos.

it doesnt pretend to know how long that dense and hot state existed before expanding, nor does it pretend to know what existed outside of that dense and hot state.

its only the foolish and ignorant who say that "time began" at the big bang

why do you assume something existed outside of the big bang or the singularity (which didn't actually physically exist)?

[anabolichalo]

heaven is reserved for a selected number of people



best case scenario the earth will be "heaven" for christians after new world order



see book of revelations

[Palpatine Q]

tdongz is a funny name

I believe "Tdongz the dong scientist" was a Lovemonkey production.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

[TrueBB93]

 Islam has nothing to do with Pagans, infact the only thing which God dosent forgive is Polythesim(which pagans are known for).

with the above being said, people have ADDED pagism into christany like Christmas: Christmas is DIRECTLY PAGAN! i really do cringe at the fact that all over in our country people say "merry christmas!" and commericals with Santa claus! WHEN ALL OF THIS IS FROM PAGISM! So is EASTER! Hm.......who are really the pagans ehh? Also funny ho Very conservative christians do NOT celebrate christmas and the Chruch  had BANNED IT once!