Author Topic: Opinion on gun control  (Read 9390 times)

headhuntersix

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 17271
  • Our forefathers would be shooting by now
Opinion on gun control
« on: December 23, 2012, 02:03:13 AM »
http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/an-opinion-on-gun-control/

This is an long post and serves to destroy completely every lame lib argument on guns. I found this interesting...

Spare me the whole, “You won’t be happy until everybody has nuclear weapons” reductio ad absurdum. It says arms, as in things that were man portable. And as for the founding fathers not being able to see foresee our modern arms, you forget that many of them were inventors, and multi shot weapons were already in service. Not to mention that in that day, arms included cannon, since most of the original artillery of the Continental Army was privately owned. Besides, the Supreme Court agrees with me. See DC v. Heller.
L

WOOO

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 18158
  • Fuck the mods
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2012, 06:04:20 AM »
clips that hold more than 10 bullets are useless for shooting at anything other than people...

no serious target shooter fires more than 1 bullet every few seconds

full auto weapons are useless other than to kill people

these are the simple bans that were in place under clinton and which bush let elapse

american'ts are not able to preserve their republic and will be overrun but outsiders much like the romans were

due to greed, fear and stupidity

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41756
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2012, 06:10:32 AM »
And yet the AWB had no effect on crime whatsoever.  Typical leftist communist idea - pass a law thinking it wll solve something.



clips that hold more than 10 bullets are useless for shooting at anything other than people...

no serious target shooter fires more than 1 bullet every few seconds

full auto weapons are useless other than to kill people

these are the simple bans that were in place under clinton and which bush let elapse

american'ts are not able to preserve their republic and will be overrun but outsiders much like the romans were

due to greed, fear and stupidity

tonymctones

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 26520
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2012, 06:12:09 AM »
clips that hold more than 10 bullets are useless for shooting at anything other than people...

no serious target shooter fires more than 1 bullet every few seconds

full auto weapons are useless other than to kill people

these are the simple bans that were in place under clinton and which bush let elapse

american'ts are not able to preserve their republic and will be overrun but outsiders much like the romans were

due to greed, fear and stupidity
clinton didnt ban semi automatics he also didnt ban fully automatics...

This is why foreigners should stay out of Americas business....

You should really look into the ban that clinton passed and the idiocy that it was.



whork

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 6587
  • Getbig!
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2012, 06:14:52 AM »
http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/an-opinion-on-gun-control/

This is an long post and serves to destroy completely every lame lib argument on guns. I found this interesting...

Spare me the whole, “You won’t be happy until everybody has nuclear weapons” reductio ad absurdum. It says arms, as in things that were man portable. And as for the founding fathers not being able to see foresee our modern arms, you forget that many of them were inventors, and multi shot weapons were already in service. Not to mention that in that day, arms included cannon, since most of the original artillery of the Continental Army was privately owned. Besides, the Supreme Court agrees with me. See DC v. Heller.

How about handgrenades?

Montague

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 14614
  • The black degelation does not know this nig - V.G.
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2012, 07:32:14 AM »
clips that hold more than 10 bullets are useless for shooting at anything other than people...   How did you arrive at that number? Why not 1 or 11?

no serious target shooter fires more than 1 bullet every few seconds   You are not aware that there are some competition shoots that employ rapid fire technique of certain model guns?

full auto weapons are useless other than to kill people   This argument could be made for most guns. With a correctly placed shot, you can kill someone with a pellet gun. Furthermore, neither the Brady Bill nor the Assault Weapons Ban (nor their expirations) changed the legal status of fully automatic firearms, whose legality has been regulated by the National Firearms Act of 1934.

these are the simple bans that were in place under clinton and which bush let elapse   GWB offered to sign such a bill if Congress passed it. They did not. If you want to "blame," Bush Jr. is not the only one to get it. And again, neither Clinton nor Bush had anything to do with the regulation of fully-automatic guns as suggested in your above statement.

american'ts are not able to preserve their republic and will be overrun but outsiders much like the romans were

due to greed, fear and stupidity   I can see this happening by the sheer fact that so many Americans were STUPID enough to re-elect a president as lousy as 0bama. It is these people who will open the doors to surrendering our republic.


Data shows a slow gradual decline in gun homicides beginning in 1993 - before the Brady Bill passed - but, figures from both the control and treatment states track virtually identically. Control and treatment states had the same gun homicide rates before and after the Brady law passed. It made no discernable difference. There is no statistically significant effect.

The 1994 "Assault Weapons Ban" did expire in 2004, but the 1998 bill requiring background checks when buying guns in a gun shop has not.

Additionally, many individual states had and have their own gun laws that are stricter than Clinton's AWB.

OzmO

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22846
  • Drink enough Kool-aid and you'll think its healthy
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2012, 08:18:03 AM »
clips that hold more than 10 bullets are useless for shooting at anything other than people...

no serious target shooter fires more than 1 bullet every few seconds

full auto weapons are useless other than to kill people

these are the simple bans that were in place under clinton and which bush let elapse

american'ts are not able to preserve their republic and will be overrun but outsiders much like the romans were

due to greed, fear and stupidity


Ok Samjag, still pining away for America's demise? 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Pine as much as you like, it won't happen in our life time. 

WOOO

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 18158
  • Fuck the mods
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2012, 08:29:01 AM »
Ok Samjag, still pining away for America's demise? 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Pine as much as you like, it won't happen in our life time. 


it's already happening... a black man is president even though 56% of american'ts are racist...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/27/poll-majority-of-americans-are-racist-against-black/

by 2050 1/5 american'ts will be hispanic... other minorities groups are also growing rapidly

http://www.asaecenter.org/Resources/articledetail.cfm?ItemNumber=13093

to most american'ts the reduction of the 'white majority' IS the death of american't

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_American

OzmO

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22846
  • Drink enough Kool-aid and you'll think its healthy
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2012, 08:31:42 AM »

it's already happening... a black man is president even though 56% of american'ts are racist...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/27/poll-majority-of-americans-are-racist-against-black/

by 2050 1/5 american'ts will be hispanic... other minorities groups are also growing rapidly

http://www.asaecenter.org/Resources/articledetail.cfm?ItemNumber=13093

to most american'ts the reduction of the 'white majority' IS the death of american't

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_American

You have lots to understand about America.

America doesn't define itself by being white.

(that wasn't a good try :D)

WOOO

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 18158
  • Fuck the mods
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2012, 08:34:38 AM »
You have lots to understand about America.

America doesn't define itself by being white.

(that wasn't a good try :D)


OzmO

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22846
  • Drink enough Kool-aid and you'll think its healthy
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2012, 08:37:44 AM »


I love that song.

You got Timmy Hurtons...I'll give you that.   :D

Coffee on Crack!

WOOO

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 18158
  • Fuck the mods
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2012, 08:41:56 AM »
I love that song.

You got Timmy Hurtons...I'll give you that.   :D

Coffee on Crack!


had a large, 2 cream this morning



(no homo)

Shockwave

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 20807
  • Decepticons! Scramble!
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2012, 10:36:05 AM »
clips that hold more than 10 bullets are useless for shooting at anything other than people...

no serious target shooter fires more than 1 bullet every few seconds

full auto weapons are useless other than to kill people

these are the simple bans that were in place under clinton and which bush let elapse

american'ts are not able to preserve their republic and will be overrun but outsiders much like the romans were

due to greed, fear and stupidity
Way to have no idea what you're talking about broseph.

WOOO

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 18158
  • Fuck the mods
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2012, 11:29:47 AM »
Way to have no idea what you're talking about broseph.

Whatever. Weapons of war have no place in civil society.

Shockwave

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 20807
  • Decepticons! Scramble!
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2012, 11:36:22 AM »
Whatever. Weapons of war have no place in civil society.
They aren't in general society - the weapons you're talking about are just fancy looking hunting rifles.

The weapons of war (high explosives, machine guns, select fire rifles) are still banned for the general populace, bromosexual.

WOOO

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 18158
  • Fuck the mods
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2012, 01:49:28 PM »
They aren't in general society - the weapons you're talking about are just fancy looking hunting rifles.

The weapons of war (high explosives, machine guns, select fire rifles) are still banned for the general populace, bromosexual.

Straw man logical fallacy.

Shockwave

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 20807
  • Decepticons! Scramble!
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2012, 02:06:04 PM »
Straw man logical fallacy.
Uh, what? The rifles that you are talking about are not weapons of war, they just look similar. They aren't select fire, like the M16/M4, they aren't machine guns, they aren't high explosives.... They are not these terrible weapons of war that you believe they are.

Montague

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 14614
  • The black degelation does not know this nig - V.G.
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2012, 02:06:39 PM »
Straw man logical fallacy.


You've been quick to assign the fallacy label today: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=452846.msg6505956#msg6505956


What, exactly, has been misrepresented in Shockwave's above post?

WOOO

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 18158
  • Fuck the mods
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2012, 03:02:08 PM »
if they are not a weapon of war what are they?

they are not for hunting

they are pathetic for home defense (if someone really wants to get you they will get you)


ultimately they are a waste of money and a threat to civil society

by most american't logic they are weapons of domestic terror

al qaeda & white america, sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G

Shockwave

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 20807
  • Decepticons! Scramble!
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2012, 03:14:28 PM »
they are not for hunting

they are pathetic for home defense
Wrong and wrong. They are just fine for hunting, a little on the small caliber side, but won't matter to a skilled marksman.

And they are just fine for home defense, assuming that you know what you're doing.

And they're fine for target/sport shooting.

Montague

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 14614
  • The black degelation does not know this nig - V.G.
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2012, 03:37:56 PM »


WOOO

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 18158
  • Fuck the mods
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2012, 05:07:26 PM »
Wrong and wrong. They are just fine for hunting, a little on the small caliber side, but won't matter to a skilled marksman.

And they are just fine for home defense, assuming that you know what you're doing.

And they're fine for target/sport shooting.


again, right tool, right job

there are many superior hunting rifles which are far cheaper

and a golf club is a safer and more effective home defense weapon statistically

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdguse.html

having a dog (or 2 big german shepherds like my wife and i) is even better... and safer

Shockwave

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 20807
  • Decepticons! Scramble!
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2012, 05:18:19 PM »

again, right tool, right job

there are many superior hunting rifles which are far cheaper

and a golf club is a safer and more effective home defense weapon statistically

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdguse.html

having a dog (or 2 big german shepherds like my wife and i) is even better... and safer

That doesn't somehow mean they're useless though, your argument makes no sense. Since they're not the absolute best option then they shouldn't even be an option? Whiskey tango foxtrot bro.

littledumbells

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 676
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2012, 05:24:11 PM »
clips that hold more than 10 bullets are useless for shooting at anything other than people...

    which makes them great for home defense

no serious target shooter fires more than 1 bullet every few seconds

   THAT really depends on what kind of target shooting one is doing. There are many many different kinds of target shooting competitions

full auto weapons are useless other than to kill people

Again.....that depends. Of course in general for one to possess a full auto weapon one needs to go through ATF and get approved to own full auto, how many people have been killed with legally owned full auto weapons?

these are the simple bans that were in place under clinton and which bush let elapse

american'ts are not able to preserve their republic and will be overrun but outsiders much like the romans were

  They certainly have no hope being neutered being relieved of valid defensive and sporting weapons

due to greed, fear and stupidity   ::) ::) ::)
 

WOOO

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 18158
  • Fuck the mods
Re: Opinion on gun control
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2012, 06:34:50 PM »
anyone who feels like they need an assault rifle in their home is both a coward and is compensating for a small penis...

FACT