your comparisons are just down right ridiculous, you want to keep it real then don't use retarded example, seriously, you mention Ronnie and Dorian, hello they are Mr. Olympias if they keep competing they tarnish their legacy. We get your point with those examples but you are not applying your logic to the right person here.
Then another stupid example "Jocelyn" ya OK nice example, this guy really looks like Jocelyn 
. If you think that then you are just trolling and being a hater and are bitter, JP is retard and he couldn't even win a basic local show so your comparison is called,"desperation to prove a point"
Just the other day their was a thread about best legs in bodybuilding and it was Wong's legs, so some people still appreciate his look, a shadow of his former self, NOT, he looks just as good as ever, except for a few torn bodyparts that only effect 2 mandatory poses directly. He is still being rewarded for his physique, he is still in demand and millions still feel he looks awesome.
Only you and a few others don't like his look, so what you guys count for nothing when the majority still are cheering him on. You guys remind me of the time when everyone, I mean all the know it all's where saying Dexter should hang it up, smartest move ever, ya right, he made a killing competing in 2012 and is now the favorite going into the Arnold. Really we get it, you are not a fan, so what.
My examples still hold, a Bber with a torn muscles is still a Bber with a torn muscle.
And people like you who say go ahead, say nothing or shake their head when the person becomes just like Jocelyn P, who was a great Bber back in his day. Dorian knew his torn muscles would hinder him. And Ronnie is still in a delusional world where people still cheer him, even though he looks like a melted pudding pop, it's like people want to enjoy the Emperor has no clothes effect.
The people who said Dex needed to hang it up, don't know what they are talking about...he and Darrem can still hold their own---for the meantime, but Dex has lost a little of his "polish". He took off where Shawn Ray left, another one who left on a high note---and might I add was very conservative---no torn muscles there.
Wong's legs were good, but not now---you can see the tears. He had his run...and it seems that he may not have anything else going for him, each time we see him he gets worse and worse. No more crispness, now he's overdone. What you gonna still say, "you look good", when he tears his other bicep? What about another quad muscle tear? How about a pec as well? Let's play ignore the muscle tears, as long as you get onstage.
Let's not share in the delusion others.
Remember, as a Christian, you must treat others the way you want to treated. Which means, if you are effing up, you want someone to tell you that, even if it maybe hard or hurt your feelings---because a person who truly cares would do the same for you, right?
