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Re: Happy Birthday to the most powerful being to ever and will ever walk the
« Reply #50 on: December 25, 2012, 10:01:37 AM »
Fuck no I'm not trolling. I'm dead serious. I put it on my balls.
ahhh, so you are trolling? almost had me fooled there lol :D

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Re: Happy Birthday to the most powerful being to ever and will ever walk the
« Reply #51 on: December 25, 2012, 10:03:40 AM »
ahhh, so you are trolling? almost had me fooled there lol :D

Sorry brah, I'm as serious as a heart attack. I'll defend it with my life. If I go down, I know where I'm going and I'm at peace knowing it.
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Re: Happy Birthday to the most powerful being to ever and will ever walk the
« Reply #52 on: December 25, 2012, 10:04:40 AM »
Sorry brah, I'm as serious as a heart attack. I'll defend it with my life. If I go down, I know where I'm going and I'm at peace knowing it.
Bro you are confusing the hell out of me. OK one more time, are you a Christian?

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Re: Happy Birthday to the most powerful being to ever and will ever walk the
« Reply #53 on: December 25, 2012, 10:09:55 AM »
Bro you are confusing the hell out of me. OK one more time, are you a Christian?

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Re: Happy Birthday to the most powerful being to ever and will ever walk the
« Reply #54 on: December 25, 2012, 10:20:02 AM »
THE PLAIN TRUTH
ABOUT CHRISTMAS

 Where did the world get Christmas?...from the Bible, or paganism. Here are astonishing facts which may shock you. Test yourself. How much do you know of the origin of the Christmas tree - of "Santa Claus" - of the mistletoe - of the holly wreath - of the custom of exchanging gifts?

When I was a little boy, I was taught to hang up my stockings on Christmas eve. When I awakened the next morning, they were filled with small toys and sacks or little boxes of candy and nuts. And beside the mantle, from which my stockings hung, a Christmas tree had suddenly appeared, decorated with shiny tinsel. And on it hung presents. Other presents for us children were piled on the floor underneath. I was told Santa Claus had come down the chimney during the night and left all these things.

But did I question what my parents had told me? Of course not. I accepted it - took it all for granted. Didn't you?

Stop and think a moment. Very few have ever reflected on WHY they believe what they do - WHY they follow the customs they do, or from WHERE those customs came. We were born into a world filled with customs. We grew up accepting them without question. Why? Sheep instinct? Well, not exactly. But by nature we do tend to follow the crowd, whether right or wrong. Sheep follow others to the slaughter. Humans ought to check up where they are going. How - WHEN did Christmas originate? Does Christmas REALLY celebrate the birthday of Christ? Was Jesus born on December 25th? Did the original apostles, who knew Jesus personally and were taught by Him, celebrate His birthday on December 25th? Did they celebrate it AT ALL?

If Christmas is the chief of the Christian holidays, WHY do so many non-Christians observe it? Do you know? Why do people exchange presents with family members, friends, relatives, at Christmas time? Was it because the wise men presented gifts to the Christ-child? The answer may surprise you.

Most people have "supposed" a lot of things about Christmas that are not true. But let's quit "supposing" and get the facts!

WHAT ENCYCLOPEDIAS SAY

 The word "Christmas" means "Mass of Christ," or, as it came to be shortened, "Christ-Mass." It came to non-Christians and Protestants from the Roman Catholic Church. And where did they get it? NOT from the New Testament - NOT from the Bible - NOT from the original apostles who were personally instructed by Christ - but it gravitated in the fourth century into the Roman Church from paganism.

Since the celebration of Christmas has come to the world from the Roman Catholic Church, and has no authority but that of the Roman Catholic Church, let us examine the Catholic Encyclopedia, 1911 edition, published by that church. Under the heading "Christmas," you will find:

"Christmas was NOT among the earliest festivals on the Church...the first evidence of the feast is FROM EGYPT." "PAGAN CUSTOMS centering around the January calends gravitated to Christmas."

And in the same encyclopedia, under the heading "Natal Day," we find that the early Catholic father, Origen, acknowledged this truth: "...In the Scriptures, no one is recorded to have kept a feast or held a great banquet on his birthday. It is ONLY SINNERS (like Pharaoh and Herod) who make great rejoicings over the day in which they were born into THIS world".

Encyclopedia Britannica, 1946 edition, has this: "Christmas (i.e., the Mass of Christ)...Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the church..." It was not instituted by Christ or the apostles, or by Bible authority. It was picked up afterward from paganism. The Encyclopedia Americana, 1944 edition, says: "Christmas...It was, according to many authorities, not celebrated in the first centuries of the Christian church, as the Christian usage in general was to celebrate the death of remarkable persons rather than their birth..." (The "Communion," which is instituted by New Testament Bible authority, is a memorial of the death of Christ.) "...A feast was established in memory of this event [Christ's birth] in the FOURTH CENTURY. In the fifth century the Western Church ordered it to be celebrated forever ON THE DAY OF THE OLD ROMAN FEAST OF THE BIRTH OF SOL, as no certain knowledge of the day of Christ's birth existed."

Now notice! These recognized historical authorities show Christmas was not observed by Christians for the first two or three hundred years - a period longer than the entire history of the United States as a nation! It got into the Western, or Roman, Church, by the fourth century A.D. It was not until the fifth century that the Roman Church ordered it to be celebrated as an official Christian festival!

JESUS NOT BORN DECEMBER 25th

Jesus was not even born in the winter season! When the Christ-child was born "there were in the same country shepherds ABIDING in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night" (Luke 2:8). This never could have occurred in Judaea in the month of December. The shepherds always brought their flocks from the mountainsides and fields and corralled them not later than October 15, to protect them from the cold, rainy season that followed that date. Notice that the Bible itself proves, in Song of Solomon 2:11 and Ezra 10:9, 13, that winter was a rainy season not permitting shepherds to abide in open fields at night.

"It was an ancient custom among Jews of those days to send out their sheep to the fields and deserts about the Passover (early spring), and bring them home at commencement of the FIRST RAIN," says the Adam Clarke Commentary (Vol. 5, page 370, New York ed.)

Continuing, this authority states: "During the time they were out, the shepherds watched them night and day. As...the first rain began early in the month of Marchesvan, which answers to part of our October and November (begins sometime in OCTOBER), we find that the sheep were kept out in the open country during the whole SUMMER. And, as these shepherds had not YET brought home their flocks, it is a presumptive argument that October had not yet commenced, and that, consequently, our Lord was not born on the 25th of December, when no flocks were out in the fields; nor could He have been born later than September, as the flocks were still in the fields BY NIGHT. On this very ground, the nativity in December should be given up. The feeding of the flocks by night in the fields is a CHRONOLOGICAL FACT...See the quotations from the Talmudists in Lightfoot."

Any encyclopedia, or any other authority, will tell you that Christ was not born on December 25. The Catholic Encyclopedia frankly states this fact.

The exact date of Jesus' birth is entirely unknown, as all authorities acknowledge - though if I had space in this booklet I could show you scriptures which at least strongly indicate it was in the early fall - probably September - approximately six months after Passover.

If God had wished us to observe and celebrate Christ's birthday, He would not have so completely hidden the exact date.

HOW THIS PAGAN CUSTOM GOT INTO THE CHURCH

Then how did this pagan custom creep into the Western Christian world?

The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religous Knowledge explains it clearly, in its article on "Christmas": "How much the date of the festival depended upon the pagan Brumalia (Dec. 25) following the Saturnalia (Dec. 17-24), and celebrating the shortest day of the year and the 'new sun'...cannot be accurately determined. The pagan Saturnalia and Brumalia WERE TOO DEEPLY ENTRENCHED IN POPULAR CUSTOM TO BE SET ASIDE BY CHRISTIAN INFLUENCE...The pagan festival with its riot and merrymaking was so popular that Christians were glad of an excuse to continue its celebration with little change in spirit and manner. Christian preachers of the West and the Near East protested against the unseemly frivolity with which Christ's birthday was celebrated, while Christians of Mesopotamia ACCUSED THEIR WESTERN BRETHREN OF IDOLATRY AND SUN WORSHIP FOR ADOPTING AS CHRISTIAN THIS PAGAN FESTIVAL."

Remember, the Roman world had been pagan. Prior to the fourth century, Christians were few in number, though increasing, and were persecuted by the government and by pagans. But, with the advent of Constantine as emperor, who made his profession of Christianity in the fourth century, placing Christianity on an equal footing with paganism, people of the Roman world began to accept this now-popular Christianity by the hundreds of thousands.

But remember, these people had grown up in pagan customs, chief of which was this idolatrous festival of December 25th. It was a festival of merrymaking, with its special spirit. They enjoyed it! They didn't want to give it up. Now this same article in the New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge explains how the recognition by Constantine of Sunday, which had been the day of pagan sun worship, and how the influence of the pagan Manichaeism, which identified the SON OF GOD with the physical SUN, gave these pagans of the fourth century, now turning over wholesale to "Christianity," their excuse for calling their pagan-festival date of December 25th (birthday of the SUN-god), the birthday of the SON OF GOD.

And THAT is how "Christmas" became fastened on our Western world. We may call it by another name, but it's the same old pagan sun-worshipping festival still. The only change is in what we call it. You can CALL a rabbit a "lion," but it's still a rabbit, just the same.

Again from the Encyclopaedia Britannica: "Certain Latins, as early as 354, may have transferred the birthday from January 6th to December 25, WHICH WAS THEN A MITHRAIC FEAST...OR BIRTHDAY OF THE UNCONQUERED SUN...The Syrians and Armenians, who clung to January 6th, accused the Romans of sun worship and idolatry, contending...that the feast of December 25, had been invented by disciples of Cerinthus..."

http://home.sprynet.com/~pabco/ptofxmas.htm

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Re: Happy Birthday to the most powerful being to ever and will ever walk the
« Reply #55 on: December 25, 2012, 10:22:03 AM »
YES
Wiggs you are a down to earth cat but seriously you are the first Christian to say "I will put it on my ball" lol, that's why I was confused lol, good sense of humour  ;)

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Re: Happy Birthday to the most powerful being to ever and will ever walk the
« Reply #56 on: December 25, 2012, 10:24:19 AM »
Wiggs you are a down to earth cat but seriously you are the first Christian to say "I will put it on my ball" lol, that's why I was confused lol, good sense of humour  ;)

lolz. I do put it on my balls though. Hardcore.
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Re: Happy Birthday to the most powerful being to ever and will ever walk the
« Reply #57 on: December 25, 2012, 10:25:36 AM »
First of all, ain't no one going to read that, way to long for getbig liking, second if it's about some evil twist or it's evil origins, who cares, Christmas today is about happiness and about being in good spirits and having a good time. Everything has an evil twist to it, we don't have to be hard assess about everything.  8)

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« Reply #58 on: December 25, 2012, 10:26:10 AM »
lolz. I do put it on my balls though. Hardcore.
Now that's a hardcore Christian lol  ;D

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Re: Happy Birthday to the most powerful being to ever and will ever walk the
« Reply #59 on: December 25, 2012, 10:30:13 AM »
THE PLAIN TRUTH
ABOUT CHRISTMAS

And in the same encyclopedia, under the heading "Natal Day," we find that the early Catholic father, Origen, acknowledged this truth: "...In the Scriptures, no one is recorded to have kept a feast or held a great banquet on his birthday. It is ONLY SINNERS (like Pharaoh and Herod) who make great rejoicings over the day in which they were born into THIS world".

http://home.sprynet.com/~pabco/ptofxmas.htm

Correct me if I am wrong (as I probably am regarding the new testament since I am Jewish), but wasn't the birth of Jesus celebrated not just by his family, but by the 3 wise men who showed up with various forms of lavish gifts?

I'd say that if true, that was probably the best example of a "birth" being celebrated if I ever heard of one.

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« Reply #60 on: December 25, 2012, 10:32:38 AM »
THE PLAIN TRUTH
ABOUT CHRISTMAS

Jesus wasn't born on Dec 25!!!  OMG thanks for clearing that up!!

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« Reply #61 on: December 25, 2012, 10:33:25 AM »
Correct me if I am wrong (as I probably am regarding the new testament since I am Jewish), but wasn't the birth of Jesus celebrated not just by his family, but by the 3 wise men who showed up with various forms of lavish gifts?

I'd say that if true, that was probably the best example of a "birth" being celebrated if I ever heard of one.

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That is correct.
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« Reply #62 on: December 25, 2012, 10:35:43 AM »
Correct me if I am wrong (as I probably am regarding the new testament since I am Jewish), but wasn't the birth of Jesus celebrated not just by his family, but by the 3 wise men who showed up with various forms of lavish gifts?

I'd say that if true, that was probably the best example of a "birth" being celebrated if I ever heard of one.

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100% spot on. In fact there was something in the sky that showed the 3 wise men how to get to Jesus. The Bible says 'star' but obviously that was metaphorically for something else. Nevertheless, indeed the 3 wise men rejoiced at his birth.

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Re: Happy Birthday to the most powerful being to ever and will ever walk the
« Reply #63 on: December 25, 2012, 10:39:11 AM »
Here is what the new testaments reads as:

Matthew 2:2

"After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi[a] from the east came to Jerusalem 2 and asked, “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.”

Matthew 2:11

"On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh."

I'd call that a celebration.  Men from far heard of a birth and traveled a great distance in order to worship this child.  Along with their worship, they brought treasures and presented him with gold, frankincense and myrrh.

I would not just call that a birthday, but a great birthday..
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« Reply #64 on: December 25, 2012, 10:44:28 AM »
I find it very refreshing to see Wiggs showing a genuine reverence for traditional values that are obviously very important to him. I thought it was a great, sincere post.

Amazing how these threads are just magnets for the hate....not even "funny GetBig posts."

Happy Birthday Annunaki Baby Jesus, and Merry Christmas everybody.

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« Reply #65 on: December 25, 2012, 11:17:06 AM »
Fuck no I'm not trolling. I'm dead serious. I put it on my balls.

Do  you know that the word "testify" is based upon that act of Romans swearing in court by holding their testicles and pledging to speak the truth?

Given your statement quoted above, I thought you might well be aware of this.

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Re: Happy Birthday to the most powerful being to ever and will ever walk the
« Reply #66 on: December 25, 2012, 11:20:31 AM »

LOL

Jesus was the fucking man, he was a good man too, he may or may not have had super powers that is up for speculation understandably
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« Reply #67 on: December 25, 2012, 11:24:36 AM »
I am certain that all here are more than familiar with the story of the very first Christmas and of how we came to celebrate it with the exchange of presents.  But how many of us have actually bothered to open the most important gift of all? 

It is not still under the tree, pushed back by larger, more expensive gifts.   Neither is it out in the garage with a bright red bow tied to a steering wheel or handlebars.   It isn't still at the mall on layaway nor is it at church.  In truth, it is rarely at church for while so many may go there this day...Well, you know...

This gift that I speak of, this unopened gift, is within you.   

Open your heart.

I trust your Christmas goes well and that your life is filled with all that you need.

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« Reply #68 on: December 25, 2012, 12:08:46 PM »
I am certain that all here are more than familiar with the story of the very first Christmas and of how we came to celebrate it with the exchange of presents.  But how many of us have actually bothered to open the most important gift of all? 

It is not still under the tree, pushed back by larger, more expensive gifts.   Neither is it out in the garage with a bright red bow tied to a steering wheel or handlebars.   It isn't still at the mall on layaway nor is it at church.  In truth, it is rarely at church for while so many may go there this day...Well, you know...

This gift that I speak of, this unopened gift, is within you.   

Open your heart.

I trust your Christmas goes well and that your life is filled with all that you need.

Yes, forget about presents and material junk, this is what it's all about.

Peace, happiness, love, forgiveness etc.

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« Reply #69 on: December 25, 2012, 12:09:53 PM »
I am certain that all here are more than familiar with the story of the very first Christmas and of how we came to celebrate it with the exchange of presents.  But how many of us have actually bothered to open the most important gift of all? 

It is not still under the tree, pushed back by larger, more expensive gifts.   Neither is it out in the garage with a bright red bow tied to a steering wheel or handlebars.   It isn't still at the mall on layaway nor is it at church.  In truth, it is rarely at church for while so many may go there this day...Well, you know...

This gift that I speak of, this unopened gift, is within you.   

Open your heart.

I trust your Christmas goes well and that your life is filled with all that you need.

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« Reply #71 on: December 25, 2012, 12:16:36 PM »
Jesus was born in the warmer months this is a historical fact.
  theres no such thing as a historical fact about "jesus".  no real proof such a man ever even existed!  for a person of such supposed stature and following, one would think the historical record of his life would be extremely well documented and almost completely undeniable. yet, when compared to famous men of his time, "jesus" has incredibly low levels of evidence to confirm his existence. 

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« Reply #72 on: December 25, 2012, 12:19:40 PM »
  theres no such thing as a historical fact about "jesus".  no real proof such a man ever even existed!  for a person of such supposed stature and following, one would think the historical record of his life would be extremely well documented and almost completely undeniable. yet, when compared to famous men of his time, "jesus" has incredibly low levels of evidence to confirm his existence. 

So are you saying he didn't exist? Do you believe he existed?
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« Reply #73 on: December 25, 2012, 12:24:06 PM »
100% spot on. In fact there was something in the sky that showed the 3 wise men how to get to Jesus. The Bible says 'star' but obviously that was metaphorically for something else. Nevertheless, indeed the 3 wise men rejoiced at his birth.
around this time of year orions belt (3 stars) line up in a vertical line that follows the constellations "virgo" and is followed by the rising of the "sun"  in the morning.

december = 3 wise men  seek a virgin and shortly after find the son of god..

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Re: Happy Birthday to the most powerful being to ever and will ever walk the
« Reply #74 on: December 25, 2012, 12:25:24 PM »
So are you saying he didn't exist? Do you believe he existed?
i think both are possible but i find the insistence that he was a real person to be intellectually dishonesty