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Even with the "probably" I still don't buy this. It's true that certain aspects of the world are incomprehensible to some creatures - even to most creatures. But I do not know that this applies to humans. Our entire history points to this being false.

We can talk probability if you want, but in a completely unscientific hand-wave manner, I'd peg this at less than 1%.

You're in line with the majority in hand-waving away the opposition while merely hinting at actual counterargument (I appreciate your honesty in this regard); the only point of departure between you and orthodoxy is that you didn't call me any names ('new mysterian' is the standard term of opprobrium in this context) -- and I appreciate that  :).

It may be that the issue boils down to a difference in intuitions: I intuit that our finite cognitive capacities (that they are finite is uncontroversial) present a built-in limitation to what can be comprehended, and further, that there are liable to be facts of the universe that lie beyond this limitation, just like for every other evolved creature that has ever existed. You intuit that this is not the case, or that there is no reason to believe that it is so, given the clear evidence of progress in understanding the world that naturalistic inquiry has achieved thus far, something that is unique to our species. I recognize such progress and hope that it continues ad infinitum but don't think it supersedes the underlying biological facts.

Anyway, I certainly hope that you are right!

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So much quality content to respond to in this thread, I'm blown. Best god/religion thread I've ever witnessed on getbig!


AHAHAAHAH!!  I'm sure this is a favorite "god/religion" thread among Getbig atheists because it is has nothing to do with either religion or God. 

Who has the biggest philosophical penis so far?  Whose handwaving has proven superior over all others?

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AHAHAAHAH!!  I'm sure this is a favorite "god/religion" thread among Getbig atheists because it is has nothing to do with either religion or God. 

Neegul please, here is just a small sampling of the topics discussed thus far that are related to God or religion:

-What those who don't believe in Him tend to believe
-How to define the term 'God'; whether it is possible to do so
-Whether God is likely to be fully comprehensible to human beings or not
-The role of certainty as far as religious belief is concerned
-Why religion exists
-Whether the evidence points towards there being a god or not
-The role of science in fixing our knowledge of the world -- including of God

Who has the biggest philosophical penis so far?  Whose handwaving has proven superior over all others?

It's a waiting game; we won't know until the dust settles.