well if you are using heavy weight on Benches or shoulder press i think itīs ok not to go all the way down..not half reps but lower till the arm is at a right angle. The benefits of going lower are minimal but CAN stress your shoulders. I go down to a right angle and also on shoulder barbell presses... If you have shoulder issues itīs safer. So itīs not for me to cheat or even use more weight but to save my joints..
Explain how going lower "stresses your shoulders".
Yes, I look forward to his answer.Considering in the Arnold days people lowered the bar all the way to the chest.
read thishttp://www.boxingscene.com/exercise/39380.php
Epic using 35lb plates to make yourself look more impressive. Now, to the topic of discussion, if it doesn't touch your chest it doesn't count. I always touch my chest with the barbell. Control the weight and avoid injury.
"Bench Press - This is a popular exercise chosen to build the chest, along with the anterior deltoid and triceps. Most teach taking the bar down until it lightly touches the chest. However, I believe this is unsafe because it exposes the anterior shoulder capsule to excessive load, in addition to compressing the soft tissue of the rotator cuff between the humerus and the acromion. Over time, with repeated bouts and heavy loads, the rotator cuff becomes inflamed."What a bunch of bullshit. So stopping with your "elbows at a right angle" prevents all of that? How is that exactly? I could throw up a website too with a list of shoulder anatomy and say "I believe doing X inflames these things" but that doesn't make it true.Here is why bench press "wrecks your joints": it's an ego lift and most guys try to use way too much weight. Rather than using less weight with correct form, they use more weight with shit form and come up with hair-brained excuses like the one seen above to justify it as "injury prevention" because when they did it the other way their shoulders hurt.
yes.. you wrote yourself "correct form" what i am trying to tell you. contradict yourself..still there will always be guys like you who have the mentality.."well yeah but Arnold did it" train how you feel mate but if you know better. I put the link up to save me time and typing as it is well explained.
I don't give a fuck what Arnold did, someone else posted that. Answer the question: how does stopping with the bar a few inches above your chest avoid "inflaming" the rotator cuff? If you can't (which certainly seems to be the case), then stop posting a bunch of misleading broscience nonsense as if you know what you're talking about.Maybe we should take a step back first: do you know what the "rotator cuff" is exactly?
Back in the day, Flex, Chris, Paul, Rico, Arron, etc, none of them brought the bar all the way down. Watched it for years. If it works, it works.
simon = outed
was a while ago and ideas change. However do what you think is right. I am 46 and will look after my joints. we canīt always live in "Arnolds" time. Do you think going below parallel in Dips is healthy? i feel it in my shoulders.
Damn you're old.
This video is 5 years old.It is how you should bench press (except the last rep)Even I do not do bench this way all the time but I always touch the chest!
I personally believe people who don`t touch the chest do so because they would be forced to lower the weight perhaps.