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Re: Sperm Donor forced to pay child support to lesbian cuple. JUST WRONG!!
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2013, 09:56:46 AM »
Fuck that guy...Him and Ronnie Coleman are retarded for giving their sperm. In Ronnie's case, he has a God complex. And I'd bet the house that this fool does also. In a system where Lesbo's can have 8 kids, something is wrong. Burn them all with fire.

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Re: Sperm Donor forced to pay child support to lesbian cuple. JUST WRONG!!
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2013, 09:58:06 AM »
so the fathers are unemployed losers?

well I got this information from a few guys whom I used to be friends with , from what I know they didnt have kids and were both working diffrent jobs, so they werent losers in that sense. But i think they saw it more as a quick way to get some extra cash.

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Re: Sperm Donor forced to pay child support to lesbian cuple. JUST WRONG!!
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2013, 10:01:33 AM »
Fuck that guy...Him and Ronnie Coleman are retarded for giving their sperm. In Ronnie's case, he has a God complex. And I'd bet the house that this fool does also. In a system where Lesbo's can have 8 kids, something is wrong. Burn them all with fire.

Yeah he deserves what he gets, fuck1ng maroon.

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Re: Sperm Donor forced to pay child support to lesbian cuple. JUST WRONG!!
« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2013, 08:41:03 AM »
Totally agree - kids have enough to go through growing up - but a couple of gay parents = humiliation @ school.
they ll prolly create their own schools and gated communities once they re numerous enough.

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Dueling ‘Today’ Interviews: Jason Patric, Ex-Girlfriend in Battle Over Son

Actor Jason Patric says the mother of his 3-year-old son is lying when she asserts that he voluntarily gave up his rights to have a relationship with the boy.

Patric leveled the lying accusation at the woman — his former girlfriend, Danielle Schreiber — when he appeared on NBC’s “Today Show” on Tuesday morning, one day after Schreiber had her say on the subject Monday on “Today.”

At the center of their battle is a little boy named Gus, who was conceived using sperm donated by Patric.

Schreiber says Patric told her in a letter that he had no desire to be the child’s father. But he insists he does want to be the boy’s father, and that she misinterpreted his letter.

She says he was uninvolved in the boy’s upbringing so far, though the boy evidently knows Patric well enough to call him Dada. Patric says he was involved in the boy’s life until about 21 weeks ago, when, he alleges, Schreiber began barring him from the boy’s life after the couple broke up.

This was the kind of tit-for-tat seen on “Today” Monday and Tuesday morning as both Schreiber and then Patric appeared separately — each with a lawyer in tow — for interviews conducted by Savannah Guthrie, who’s in L.A. this week.

Is she lying?” Guthrie asked Patric after a news report on the case by NBC’s Mike Taibbi was shown Tuesday on “Today” (and included in the clip, above).

“Unfortunately, she is, yes,” said Patric, 47. “And the way the story is played out — because it’s a nice soundbite about ‘sperm donor’ … But I was never a ‘sperm donor.’ We had fertility issues,” he said. “And therefore I had to give sperm … I signed an ‘intended parent’ form with my name and Danielle’s name as ‘intended parents’ of the child that would come from this process.”

Patric asserts that his signature on that form proves his intention to be a parent to the boy. But the case has already landed in court, which ruled in favor of Schreiber, whose lawyer called Patric a liar when Schreiber and the attorney appeared Monday on “Today.”

“A court has found that Jason is not a truthteller,” said the attorney, Patricia Glaser.

Despite the fact that the case has already been the subject of a court ruling, Patric and his attorney are still seeking ways for Patric to win at least partial custody of the boy. Part of their strategy seems to involve appearing on television to draw attention to the plight of Patric and other sperm-donor dads who seek greater involvement in the rearing of their off-spring. In fact, a new bill on the subject has begun to be discussed in the California legislature.

Patric first appeared last week on Katie Couric’s daytime talk show to talk about the case.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/tv/2013/07/16/duelling-today-interviews-jason-patric-ex-girlfriend-in-battle-over-son/

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They did this on Craigslist...It's not like they went to a sperm bank...Plus the dude looks ultra creepy and must be half a retard to give his sperm to people on craigslist...

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I dated a girl... smoking hot 1/2 latina.. 5'2" 120lbs with huge tits... had a bf get killed in a car accident.. decided she wanted a baby and found a dude willing to do it.. wrote up a contract/agreement for zero child support/zero parental rights/zero responsibility/zero contact with the kid..

well, she bangs the dude for a few days.. has the baby.. 3 years later the dude decides he wants visitation with the kid. they go to court and BOOM! he gets hit with 3 years back child support.. gets arrested.. gets probation... and gets ZERO visitation.

should've kept his mouth shut.

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I dated a girl... smoking hot 1/2 latina.. 5'2" 120lbs with huge tits... had a bf get killed in a car accident.. decided she wanted a baby and found a dude willing to do it.. wrote up a contract/agreement for zero child support/zero parental rights/zero responsibility/zero contact with the kid..

well, she bangs the dude for a few days.. has the baby.. 3 years later the dude decides he wants visitation with the kid. they go to court and BOOM! he gets hit with 3 years back child support.. gets arrested.. gets probation... and gets ZERO visitation.

should've kept his mouth shut.

Hilarious...

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homosexuals shouldn't even be allowed to have children in the first place. terrible for the child. we need to return to our old sound values. liberal horseshit.

Yes because straight people are doing such an excellent job raising their kids.

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bullshit. it's not natural.

show me that report or whatever then. It's probably made with agenda behind it anyways.


Saying something is not natural does not equate it to being bad. There are many studies that show no relationship between homosexual parents and negative outcomes. Of course when you read these peer-reviewed articles, you will say, "Its a liberal agenda." In essence, you will even be skeptical of articles in peer-reviewed journals, so why even bother showing you?

In addition, couples with a man and a woman are not the best parents either. Also, the divorce rate between a man and woman is somewhat high, and the amount of children without fathers is pretty detrimental. So it seems like whether or not a man and woman stay together, they are not doing the best job.

63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (US Dept. Of Health/Census) – 5 times the average.

90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes – 32 times the average.

85% of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average.  (Center for Disease Control)

80% of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes –14 times the average.  (Justice & Behavior, Vol 14, p. 403-26)

71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes – 9 times the average.  (National Principals Association Report)

Types of Maltreatment Children Suffer

Maltreatment can take many forms, and some children can suffer from more than one type. Since 1999, the majority of children confirmed to be victims of child maltreatment experienced neglect. The following are the percentages of children who experienced maltreatment in 2005 (USDHHS, 2007):
Neglect    62.8%
Physical abuse    16.6%
Sexual abuse    9.3%
Emotional/psychological abuse    7.1%
Medical neglect    2.0%
Other    14.3%

The ‘Other’ category listed above includes abandonment, threats to harm the child, congenital drug addiction and other situations that are not counted as specific categories in NCANDS. The percentages here add up to more than 100 percent because some children were victims of more than one type of maltreatment.
Demographics of Child Victims

Boys and girls are equally likely to suffer maltreatment. In 2005, 47.3 percent of child victims were male, and 50.7 percent were female. Victimization rates were highest among the youngest population of children, birth to 3 years, at a rate of 16.5 per 1,000 children (USDHHS, 2007).

In 2005, 49.7 percent of children who were maltreated were white, 23.1 percent were African American, and 17.4 percent were Hispanic. American Indians and Alaska Natives accounted for 1.2 percent of victims, and Asian-Pacific Islanders accounted for less than 1 percent of victims (USDHHS, 2007).

Approximately 10 percent of the children in this country have a disability or chronic illness. The incidence of abuse and neglect among these children is twice as high as it is among average children (Child Welfare Information Gateway, 2006).

Child victims who were reported with disabilities accounted for almost 8 percent of all victims of child abuse and neglect in the 39 states that reported this type of data (USDHHS, 2007). For NCANDS’ purposes, children with the following disabilities were considered disabled: mental retardation, emotional disturbances, visual impairment, learning disabilities, physical disabilities, behavioral problems or other medical problems. It is believed that while children with disabilities are maltreated more frequently, these cases are less likely to be reported for several reasons. Most CPS agencies’ data collection on maltreatment cases does not involve questions regarding a child’s disability. Children with disabilities are less likely to be believed or viewed as credible when they attempt to report.
Parental Substance Abuse Can Lead to Child Abuse and Neglect

The National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University estimates in a 2005 report that substance abuse is a factor in at least 70 percent of all reported cases of child maltreatment. Adults with substance use disorders are 2.7 times more likely to report abusive behavior and 4.2 times more likely to report neglectful behavior toward their children. Maltreated children of substance abusing parents are more likely to have poorer physical, intellectual, social and emotional outcomes and are at greater risk of developing substance abuse problems themselves (USDHHS, 2003).

Too Often Children Need to Be Removed From Their Homes

One of the major reasons children enter foster care is abuse and neglect associated with parental alcohol or drug abuse (USDHHS, 1999). As of September 30, 2004, 517,000 children lived in foster homes because they could not safely remain in their own homes. In 2005, one-fifth (21.7 percent) of victims or 317,000 children were removed from their homes as a result of child maltreatment investigations. Some children spend weeks or months in care, and others live in care for an entire year or longer (USDHHS, 2007).

Who Are the Perpetrators?

Perpetrators of child abuse or neglect are most often the child’s own parents. According to NCANDS, in 2005, 79.4 percent of perpetrators were parents and 6.8 percent were other relatives. The largest remaining categories of perpetrators were the unmarried partner of a child’s parent (3.8 percent) and other perpetrators (4.1 percent). In 3.6 percent of child maltreatment cases the perpetrators were missing or unknown. In under 1 percent of child maltreatment cases the perpetrator was a foster parent, residential facility staff, the child’s daycare provider, a legal guardian, friends or neighbors, or other professionals (USDHHS, 2007).

Approximately 40 percent of child victims were maltreated by their mothers acting alone; another 18.3 percent were maltreated by their fathers acting alone; 17.3 percent were abused by both parents (USDHHS, 2007).



I am assuming that the 79.4% is predominantly heterosexual couples.
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Yes because straight people are doing such an excellent job raising their kids.

I can't back this up with scientific evidence, but I believe this is too confusing for a young child. He/she needs a biological father & mother figure, both with their own qualities.

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IT'S A PROVEN FACT KIDS WITH BOTH "MOM AND DAD" DO BETTER THAN THOSE WITHOUT BOTH PARENTS.

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Wrong, statistic show that some of the children commit suicide and are bullied their entire life 8 out of ten children from homosexual couples have low self-esteem issues. Very selfish of the parents to ruin the kids life right off the hop, serious whether being gay is right or wrong having a kid in a gay couple is not just horribly wrong but evil and shows no love for the child whatsoever

Proof right there that being homosexual is unnatural and WRONG.  If a totally.unbiased, innocent child has self esteem issues, bullied, etc becomes gay and hates himself for it what does that tell you about him being "parented" by these phags. It should be against the damn law.

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No legislation, no media campaign, no forced thought indoctrination...

could EVER make this shit good, natural, right, or worthy of respect

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Speaking of spreading it when you shouldn't

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/entertainment-eonline/20130718/b440263/

Liam Gallagher Sued for $3 Million by New York Times Journalist After Reported Love Child

Former Oasis frontman Liam Gallagher is being sued for $3 million by a journalist who claims that she gave birth to his daughter less than a year ago.

Liza Ghorbani, who has written for The Wall Street Journal and The New York Times, claims that she had an affair with the singer and would now like a DNA test to prove that the 40-year-old Brit is the father.

Ghorbani filed the papers in Manhattan Family Court and while the first case's hearing was last Friday, the full hearing was adjourned until later this month.

Gallagher has sued the New York Post in response to their original story . 

Ghorbani published an interview with the singer in The New York Times in May of 2010.

In the revealing piece, titled What's an Ex-Frontman to Do?, she  detailed the events that took place on evening when the two enjoyed a late night out on the town.

Gallagher and Ghorbani met at the Ritz Carlton hotel bar in Manhattan before heading to Norwood, a private club at the time.

The article, however, doesn't hint at any possible romance or even affair between the two. The piece mainly discusses his future career plans and his highly publicized rift with his brother Noel.

Gallagher is currently married to former All Saints singer Nicole Appleton. The two wed in 2008 and have a son together. He also has a son with Patsy Kensit, his first wife, whom he tied the knot with in 1997.

This isn't the first time that the notorious singer has seen his name in the headlines for allegedly having a love child.

In 1998, while he was still married to Kensit, it was reported that Lisa Moorish gave birth to Gallagher's first daughter.

A rep for Gallagher has not responded to E! News.

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Yes because straight people are doing such an excellent job raising their kids.

STFU homo supporter they should be grateful to walk the planet

tolerating homos is one thing but allowing them to get married and have children the line must be drawn

only in western countries homos run free and got power 

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That what he gets for being down with THAT CROWD

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homosexuals shouldn't even be allowed to have children in the first place. terrible for the child. we need to return to our old sound values. liberal horseshit.

This.

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There will be tons more of this.
Damn is almost everyone gay or lesbian now? I am a male and like girls/pussy I guess I am a minority now.

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Re: Sperm Donor forced to pay child support to lesbian cuple. JUST WRONG!!
« Reply #45 on: November 25, 2013, 12:12:06 AM »
http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/tv/2013/11/24/mtv-series-focuses-on-lives-of-sperm-donor-kids/

MTV Series Focuses on Lives of Sperm Donor Kids

NEW YORK (AP) — Breeanna Speicher’s curiosity about her background led her to a family she never knew she had and inspired a new MTV series that stretches the very concept of family.

The 18-year-old college student from Reno, Nev., is the daughter of two women who conceived her with a sperm donation. She’s the central figure in “Generation Cryo,” which follows her effort to discover half siblings through a registry and, ultimately, track down the donor who gave her life. The first of six episodes debuts Monday at 10 p.m. EST.

The first recorded artificial insemination came in the 1800s to a woman who didn’t know she was getting it, said Wendy Kramer, founder and director of the Donor Sibling Registry. Doctors performed the procedure in the middle of the last century, but it was mostly kept quiet before the practice became much more widespread with the opening of sperm banks in the 1980s, she said.

That means enough “donor babies” are coming of age now to prompt public interest in their experiences, evident in both “Generation Cryo” and the new Vince Vaughn movie “Delivery Man,” about a donor who discovers he’s responsible for more than 500 kids.

Kramer said she tried for eight years to get a television network interested in a story drawn from her registry of people trying to connect with other donor families before MTV showed interest.

“We know that our audience is interested in stories relating to family, and this is definitely a unique and fresh take that really makes you think about what a family is,” said Marshall Eisen, series executive producer.

Kramer admitted to some trepidation — “We didn’t want to make a reality show, ‘Donor Kids Gone Bad,’” she said — but is pleased with how it turned out.

Speicher’s nose ring and adeptness with video selfies make her a natural MTV personality and easily relatable for the audience. Eisen’s original interest was in half-siblings finding each other, but Speicher’s desire to find her donor adds a richness and level of complexity to the story.

In the first episode, she travels to suburban Atlanta to meet Jonah and Hilit Jacobson, twin 18-year-olds who had the same sperm donor. Besides getting to know them, her goal is to collect a DNA sample from Jonah that’s necessary to track the donor’s identity.

Jonah is happy to do it, but it prompts raw emotion and feelings of inadequacy in his father, captured by MTV’s cameras. The twins’ father has gone along with them connecting with half-siblings through the registry; the possibility of them contacting the donor is another matter entirely. Later in the series, Speicher meets a half-sibling who is uncomfortable knowing he is a donor child, and another set of siblings who are conflicted about learning about their donor.

Some donors are interested in meeting the children they helped create, even if they donated anonymously, Kramer said. Others aren’t. The resolution of Speicher’s search isn’t resolved in the first episode and, Eisen said, filming of the series isn’t done.

“You think you know what to expect,” Speicher said. “You think you can handle it. But until you get to that point, there’s no way to prepare.” Filming prompted “a lot of different emotions — some that I’m probably not even aware of,” she said.

The experience of finding half siblings is fascinating as they search for shared traits: Speicher and the Jacobsons note they have similarly large lower lips.

“They really connected, and it has a lot of meaning for them,” Eisen said. So far, Speicher has found 14 other people descended from the same donor. She doesn’t know how many are out there.

Speicher and her half siblings will soon have to deal with other emotions as the series makes them minor celebrities. Being the subject of a PBS documentary would be one thing for an 18-year-old, but being visible on MTV is something else entirely.

“I opened the door to be a public figure because I truly believe in what I’m doing,” she said.

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Re: Sperm Donor forced to pay child support to lesbian cuple. JUST WRONG!!
« Reply #46 on: November 25, 2013, 10:33:07 AM »
that just opened a can of worms

{giggle}
..don't you mean it opened up a test tube of worms?
...or even better... wait for it... a turkey baster full of pollywogs?  ;D

I'm sorry, I couldn't resist.  :P
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Re: Sperm Donor forced to pay child support to lesbian cuple. JUST WRONG!!
« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2014, 07:06:43 PM »
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/23/22421999-kansas-sperm-donor-to-appeal-ruling-that-he-must-pay-child-support?lite

Kansas sperm donor to appeal ruling that he must pay child support



KANSAS CITY, Kansas — A Kansas man who donated sperm to a lesbian couple so they could have a child plans to appeal a judge's ruling that he is the legal father of the girl and must pay child support, his lawyer said on Thursday.

William Marotta, 47, was financially responsible for the child because under state law sperm for artificial insemination must be donated through a physician, a judge ruled on Wednesday, siding with the state of Kansas.

The couple, Jennifer Schreiner and Angela Bauer, had found Marotta by advertising on Craigslist and did not use a physician in the donation process, according to court records. They signed a contract agreeing that Marotta would have no financial responsibility to the child.

When the couple encountered money difficulties and one sought state benefits, the state petitioned to have Marotta declared the child's father and financially responsible.

"A parent may not terminate parental rights by contract ... even when the parties have consented," Shawnee County District Court Judge Mary Mattivi ruled.

Marotta's lawyer, Ben Swinnen, said his client would appeal the ruling, which raised the question of whether a man could only be considered a sperm donor in Kansas if he goes through a physician.

"It takes a very sweeping reading of the statute," he said.

Swinnen said Marotta and his wife have no children of their own but have fostered a daughter, adding he was simply trying to help a couple who wanted a child.

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Re: Sperm Donor forced to pay child support to lesbian cuple. JUST WRONG!!
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Re: Sperm Donor forced to pay child support to lesbian cuple. JUST WRONG!!
« Reply #49 on: January 25, 2014, 07:04:03 AM »
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The legal agreement that the three made in 2009 was deemed invalid by Kansas state because they did not use a certified doctor for the insemination.

This seems to be an operative sentence.  One could infer that in addition to not using the services of a medical specialist, they didn’t use the services of a legal specialist.



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Schroller argued in court documents that if a donor is free of parental responsibility only when a doctor performs an insemination, 'then any woman in Kansas could have sperm donations shipped to her house, inseminate herself without a licensed physician and seek out the donor for financial support because her actions made him a father, not a sperm donor.

No kidding.
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