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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #250 on: January 07, 2013, 05:41:12 PM »
of course he doesn't   ::)

why would you believe anything different



He has had little or no press conferences in memory.  And those that he has are potemkin village replicas w his hand maidens picked to ask pre screened questions

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #251 on: January 07, 2013, 05:42:02 PM »
no I'm not

I told you EXACTLY how I arrived at my conclusion and there is NOTHING FALSE about it

Oh look... another lie.


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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #252 on: January 07, 2013, 05:42:28 PM »
you don't know all yet you're making the claim

how about getting some specifics

you seem to have a specific figure of 3.8% which has been debunked MANY TIMES in the last two years as it pertains to Real Estate Transaction

I'm sure you are aware of that so you must not be referring to Real Estate so what exactly are you referring to

You may actually have a valid point here but how about some specific details



You're just running for cover.  The 3.8% is very real and nothing to debunk.  That's not to say all people will be affected.  And it applies to capital gains, interest, dividends, and NET rents.

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #253 on: January 07, 2013, 05:44:19 PM »
Oh look... another lie.





Yes.  The 3.8% is a new tax.  Now, it's very targeted and not everyone is going to pay. 

But a new tax is an INCREASE regardless.


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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #254 on: January 07, 2013, 05:44:50 PM »
Reporter - Mr. President, by signing this one year temporary reduction in the payroll tax aren't you violating your 2008 campaign statement to that there would be no tax increase on those making 250k or less. Isn't it true that in twelve months the 2% discount will go away and taxes will "increase" back to where they were before the discount.    Aren't you literally signing a bill to increase taxes

Obama - You aren't actually seriously asking me that idiotic question.... are you?

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #255 on: January 07, 2013, 05:45:41 PM »


You're just running for cover.  The 3.8% is very real and nothing to debunk.  That's not to say all people will be affected.  And it applies to capital gains, interest, dividends, and NET rents.

Fine - you know it's "real" so tell me EXACTLY what you're referring to


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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #256 on: January 07, 2013, 05:46:24 PM »


Yes.  The 3.8% is a new tax.  Now, it's very targeted and not everyone is going to pay. 

But a new tax is an INCREASE regardless.


I though Obama said taxes would not increase on those making less than 250k


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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #257 on: January 07, 2013, 05:48:40 PM »
I though Obama said taxes would not increase on those making less than 250k



He lied since there are taxes in obamcare applying to everyone. 

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #258 on: January 07, 2013, 05:49:56 PM »
He lied since there are taxes in obamcare applying to everyone. 

false

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #259 on: January 07, 2013, 05:50:56 PM »

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #260 on: January 07, 2013, 05:53:02 PM »
I though Obama said taxes would not increase on those making less than 250k





I believe it's 200/250

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #261 on: January 07, 2013, 05:54:05 PM »
false


LOL!!!!  

Medical device tax, tanning tax, the mandates driving up premiums are a tax, the inflation tax, the expiration of the payroll tax break, etc etc

Bottom line - under Obama people have far less money in  their check  

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #262 on: January 07, 2013, 05:56:00 PM »
LOL!!!! 

Medical device tax, tanning tax, the mandates driving up premiums are a tax, the inflation tax, the expiration of the payroll tax break, etc etc

Bottom line - under Obama people have far less money in  their check   



Yeah...the companies just push it off to consumers.  So of course it affects us.

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #263 on: January 07, 2013, 05:56:34 PM »


Educate yourself.

http://money.msn.com/health-and-life-insurance/know-the-facts-on-new-38percent-tax


did you actually read it

btw- here is Obama's quote regarding taxes ” families making less than $250,000 will not “see any form of tax increase"

now go actually read the article you posted and then check back in

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #264 on: January 07, 2013, 06:00:52 PM »
did you actually read it

btw- here is Obama's quote regarding taxes ” families making less than $250,000 will not “see any form of tax increase"

now go actually read the article you posted and then check back in




You clearly didn't read the whole thing.

If you're investment exceeds even with the deduction then you will pay it.

As I said earlier...it's not going to affect everyone.

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #265 on: January 07, 2013, 06:03:21 PM »


You clearly didn't read the whole thing.

If you're investment exceeds even with the deduction then you will pay it.

As I said earlier...it's not going to affect everyone.


only if your AGI > 250k and even then that's ONLY after you get your first 250k profit tax free (for individual) and 500k for couples

so, you're COMPLETELY WRONG

This has been debunked on this board and in the media MANY MANY TIMES

http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2012/04/02/there-is-no-obamacare-tax-on-most-home-sales-really/

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #266 on: January 07, 2013, 06:03:51 PM »
He has had little or no press conferences in memory.  And those that he has are potemkin village replicas w his hand maidens picked to ask pre screened questions

it's a well established fact that your memory sucks

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #267 on: January 07, 2013, 06:05:09 PM »
it's a well established fact that your memory sucks

When was the last real press conference O-Twink had?

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #268 on: January 07, 2013, 06:08:25 PM »
When was the last real press conference O-Twink had?

He's never had one

Isn't that your recollection?

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #269 on: January 07, 2013, 06:11:12 PM »
He's never had one

Isn't that your recollection?

Maybe he had one a few months ago w a few meaningless questions, but he is not accesible or approachable for real questions. 

He rather do interviews w dj's like pimp w a limp 

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #270 on: January 07, 2013, 06:17:29 PM »
Maybe he had one a few months ago w a few meaningless questions, but he is not accesible or approachable for real questions. 

He rather do interviews w dj's like pimp w a limp 

I gotta give you credit

that was a much faster back pedal than usual

I can only imagine the "real" questions you would ask him

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #271 on: January 07, 2013, 06:19:09 PM »
I gotta give you credit

that was a much faster back pedal than usual

I can only imagine the "real" questions you would ask him

Obama is never around for questions - when is he ever in front of a panel for questions 

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #272 on: January 07, 2013, 06:19:51 PM »
only if your AGI > 250k and even then that's ONLY after you get your first 250k profit tax free (for individual) and 500k for couples

so, you're COMPLETELY WRONG

This has been debunked on this board and in the media MANY MANY TIMES

http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2012/04/02/there-is-no-obamacare-tax-on-most-home-sales-really/




Yeah...so if the investment returns enough, it's enough to push somebody into that bracket.  Like I said, you haven't debunked anything.

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #273 on: January 07, 2013, 06:20:45 PM »



Yeah...so if the investment returns enough, it's enough to push somebody into that bracket.  Like I said, you haven't debunked anything.

yep...greater than 250k in AGI

Isn't that what I said before?

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #274 on: January 07, 2013, 07:32:15 PM »

Hilarious: Obama Voters Furious About Tax Hikes
 Kyle Becker January 7, 2013 8:34 pm








Democrat voters received a dose of economic reality after their New Year’s hangovers wore off, when they looked down at their 2013 paystubs and saw not Obama bucks, but higher federal taxes.

How misplaced was their trust in re-electing defender of the middle class tax-raiser President Obama? Workers making $30,000 will take a bigger hit on their pay than those earning $500,000 under the fiscal cliff deal. And Democrats are seeking $1 trillion more in tax “revenue” by the end of this year.

Now, it’s not nice to laugh at other people’s shock and surprise, but this is about as delicious as it gets. Voters seem to think that the president can hand out massive freebies like bailouts, stimulus, cash for clunkers, green energy subsidies and Obamacare, while somehow winding up personally protected by President Nice Guy from massive tax hikes and rising inflation.



Even if you’re not one of the evil rich, you’ll still pay — whether in your paychecks or at the gas pump and supermarket. Well, unless you’re one of those few welfare recipients taking out cash at strip clubs, liquor stores and X-rated shops.

As the national debt clock overheats from spinning so fast, voters don’t need to see those flipping numbers represent more debt. That’s way too abstract. What they need to see in those numbers is the national taxes/inflation clock, which is much more accurate. And that clock only shows about $16 trillion of the future unfunded debts of about $86 trillion.

[Click here to read "Steyn: Congress Spent 2 Months Arguing for 10 Hours Worth of Spending Cuts."]

Some Tweets from the website Twitchy show some awesomely outraged Obama voters who were duped by their Supreme Leader (we’ll leave the NC-17 ones for Twitchy). Below pretty much sums them all up: