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« Reply #125 on: January 13, 2013, 10:17:03 AM »

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« Reply #126 on: January 13, 2013, 10:50:55 AM »

First the uk is not part of the eu (god bless their heart)

Second its violent because there's still something worth fighting for, unlike the rest of socioeurotrash.
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« Reply #127 on: January 13, 2013, 11:23:21 AM »

First the uk is not part of the eu (god bless their heart)

Second its violent because there's still something worth fighting for, unlike the rest of socioeurotrash.


wrong.
UK is part of the EU.




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« Reply #128 on: January 13, 2013, 11:25:31 AM »

I dont think I live in a democracy...because I don't...I live in a Republic.  I thought the English were supposed to be smart?  Or maybe they substitute pretension for learning.

Oh, and we've had a couple of Presidents arise from the common man.  I think you'll remember one in particular.  His name was Andrew Jackson.  He made his bones at the Battle of New Orleans ending England's second pathetic attempt to constrain free men.  Seriously, when is the last time you guys won a battle...not even a war...just a battle?  Maybe if your armed forces spent more time practicing and less time buggering you'd improve.  Sound advice for your National Football team too.

I always laugh when people start downing the US system of government.

I'd love for someone to show me a better one... Our Constitutional Republic is the best thing going.
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« Reply #129 on: January 13, 2013, 11:29:14 AM »

I always laugh when people start downing the US system of government.

I'd love for someone to show me a better one... Our Constitutional Republic is the best thing going.

Now all the government has to do is adhere to it and we'll be all set.
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« Reply #130 on: January 13, 2013, 11:31:19 AM »

I always laugh when people start downing the US system of government.

I'd love for someone to show me a better one... Our Constitutional Republic is the best thing going.


No shit talk but honestly, Finnish multiparty parliament and government plus straight popular vote for president, who has limited power, beats American system hands down in democracy.
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« Reply #131 on: January 13, 2013, 11:42:20 AM »


No shit talk but honestly, Finnish multiparty parliament and government plus straight popular vote for president, who has limited power, beats American system hands down in democracy.

I'd have to research a little more... It sounds like they took our idea and modified it slightly.

At one point in time I believe ours was just like that and somehow, over time, we have lost our way.
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« Reply #132 on: January 13, 2013, 12:15:06 PM »

I'd have to research a little more... It sounds like they took our idea and modified it slightly.

At one point in time I believe ours was just like that and somehow, over time, we have lost our way.

Gotta give you that it's good the term of president is only 4 years in USA.
It's 6 years in Finland although president doesn't have even remotely as much power.

Switzerland might be the most democratic country in the world.
I'm not expert on their system but what I've read it's pretty unique, in a good way. Most laws for example are passed by popular vote and 'head of state' acts only for 1 year.

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« Reply #133 on: January 13, 2013, 12:20:52 PM »

I always laugh when people start downing the US system of government.

I'd love for someone to show me a better one... Our Constitutional Republic is the best thing going.

The Romans still called themselves a 'Republic' too right till their dying days in the West haha

When there only two parties, which are virtually identical and two candidates to choose from....not quite ideal.

And when those two groups are basically backed by the same people.....also not quite so ideal.
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« Reply #134 on: January 13, 2013, 12:29:23 PM »

The Romans still called themselves a 'Republic' too right till their dying days in the West haha

When there only two parties, which are virtually identical and two candidates to choose from....not quite ideal.

And when those two groups are basically backed by the same people.....also not quite so ideal.

I don't disagree... The US is not perfect, but again, I think it's the best form of government going.
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« Reply #135 on: January 13, 2013, 12:29:55 PM »

I'm not to familiar with life in Belgium, but I was just randomly comparing US States to European countries and found that Belgium has a higher homicide rate than most US States.  Guns are banned in Belgium.

What's that all about?

Basically, most US States are inline with European countries.  Our gun violence stats are skewed by states that need to workout other issues.  
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« Reply #136 on: January 13, 2013, 12:32:51 PM »

I don't disagree... The US is not perfect, but again, I think it's the best form of government going.

So what makes you think that?
Comparing the US system with Australia or Canada or UK or Germany or France.
How is the US system better?
It's a serious question, maybe you are right but what do you base it on?



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« Reply #137 on: January 13, 2013, 12:38:12 PM »

So what makes you think that?
Comparing the US system with Australia or Canada or UK or Germany or France.
How is the US system better?
It's a serious question, maybe you are right but what do you base it on?






I like how in our republic, the Presidential office separates the executive and legislative functions... It provides for a greater system of "checks and balances" than the Parliamentary process where the Prime Minister is a part of legislature and and answers to them.

I also like how we vote separately for that office where in the Parliament they appoint the Prime Minister.
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« Reply #138 on: January 13, 2013, 12:38:50 PM »

So what makes you think that?
Comparing the US system with Australia or Canada or UK or Germany or France.
How is the US system better?
It's a serious question, maybe you are right but what do you base it on?

Individual rights, and self determination.

The freedom to completely run your own life, individual sovereignty like no other country.  I like Socialism for Europe, but I have a real problem with our politicians trying to mimic it, that's not who we are.  I want us to continue on the path where people can become rich, or completely fail based on their own life decisions.

I don't think it's a matter of better, or worse.  I just hope a place like the US where you can run your own life without government interference (economically, socially, etc) continues to exist.
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« Reply #139 on: January 13, 2013, 12:44:44 PM »

That's quickly coming to an end though, too many mediocre people have decided they want government to support them like their parents did.
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« Reply #140 on: January 13, 2013, 01:12:19 PM »


I like how in our republic, the Presidential office separates the executive and legislative functions... It provides for a greater system of "checks and balances" than the Parliamentary process where the Prime Minister is a part of legislature and and answers to them.

I also like how we vote separately for that office where in the Parliament they appoint the Prime Minister.

That's how other Republics generally work as well though.
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« Reply #141 on: January 13, 2013, 02:18:40 PM »

That's how other Republics generally work as well though.

He specifically asked me about the US vs. Australian, Canadian, and UK systems.

So that's the difference between ours and theirs that I feel makes us better.
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« Reply #142 on: January 13, 2013, 02:22:35 PM »

He specifically asked me about the US vs. Australian, Canadian, and UK systems.

So that's the difference between ours and theirs that I feel makes us better.


The main difference I think is, you guys have a Constitution and a Bill of Rights. Makes it a bit more difficult for the government to violate your civil rights. A bit, but not too much.
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« Reply #143 on: January 13, 2013, 04:39:04 PM »

The main difference I think is, you guys have a Constitution and a Bill of Rights. Makes it a bit more difficult for the government to violate your civil rights. A bit, but not too much.

canadian government has the breach of peace legislation which makes it legal for police to lock people up indefinitely for anything they want. im sure Australia and UK has something similar  Huh
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« Reply #144 on: January 13, 2013, 05:07:25 PM »

The main difference I think is, you guys have a Constitution and a Bill of Rights. Makes it a bit more difficult for the government to violate your civil rights. A bit, but not too much.

The separation of powers is inherently what keeps the breach of civil rights supposedly in check, but of course, lately that hasn't gone so well.

It's very disappointing.
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« Reply #145 on: January 13, 2013, 05:10:11 PM »

canadian government has the breach of peace legislation which makes it legal for police to lock people up indefinitely for anything they want. im sure Australia and UK has something similar  Huh

No, you can't do this here as far as I know, although the last government wanted to institute a forty-day lock-up period for terror suspects, which of course did not pass.
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« Reply #146 on: January 13, 2013, 07:01:31 PM »

The separation of powers is inherently what keeps the breach of civil rights supposedly in check, but of course, lately that hasn't gone so well.

It's very disappointing.

the constitution religion is very strong in america. it always amazes me the number of people that  don't think twice about discarding the idea of following the Jewish or Christian bible because they see it as being full of anachronisms but think that a text written more than 200 years ago by a bunch of slave owners in a society that was totally alien to our world is something to be held as sacred

then there are the saints of the religion, the founding fathers and the thousands of bullshit books and hagiographies published every year about these provincial hicks going through the same bullshit stories that sell like hot cakes

and it is all so natural that no one even notices how ridiculous it is. just imagine as an american what you would think if another country came to you with the same story. you'd think these guys must be crazy
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« Reply #147 on: January 13, 2013, 07:05:52 PM »

the constitution religion is very strong in america. it always amazes me the number of people that  don't think twice about discarding the idea of following the Jewish or Christian bible because they see it as being full of anachronisms but think that a text written more than 200 years ago by a bunch of slave owners in a society that was totally alien to our world is something to be held as sacred

then there are the saints of the religion, the founding fathers and the thousands of bullshit books and hagiographies published every year about these provincial hicks going through the same bullshit stories that sell like hot cakes

and it is all so natural that no one even notices how ridiculous it is. just imagine as an american what you would think if another country came to you with the same story. you'd think these guys must be crazy

So  you're saying that the history of how the US came to be is "crazy".

I see.
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« Reply #148 on: January 13, 2013, 07:16:26 PM »

So  you're saying that the history of how the US came to be is "crazy".

I see.


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« Reply #149 on: January 13, 2013, 07:17:45 PM »

the constitution religion is very strong in america. it always amazes me the number of people that  don't think twice about discarding the idea of following the Jewish or Christian bible because they see it as being full of anachronisms but think that a text written more than 200 years ago by a bunch of slave owners in a society that was totally alien to our world is something to be held as sacred

What parts of the Bill of Rights do you disagree with? 
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