Your President, Barack Obama-23 Directives to Address Gun Control

[Hugo Chavez]

This is classic playing the fence by Obama. All of these things simply enforce laws that are currently in place. He had to do something to keep the hippy go free free anti gun crackaloos happy, but couldn't do anything substantial because he knows it would be deemed unconstitutional. He needs congress to make laws... the president cannot make laws for all those who think he can do whatever he wants.

And nothing substantial will get through congress either probably. The libtards will grandstand and blame the republicans for wanting to kill kids etc. right out of the play book. But in the mean time, voting to take away firearms is INSTANT LOSS of your seat in either the house or the senate, so no votes will even take place. Typical liberal nonsense... use a tragedy that happened under Obama and make it the republicans fault.

lol @ "crackaloos"

[Straw Man]

He still wants to ban certain guns that ppl own and like.

You don't feel that coming after guns that ppl own is taking their guns?

No, I don't

why do you keep asking me the same question

Are my answers hard to understand

[tonymctones]

No, I don't

why do you keep asking me the same question

Are my answers hard to understand

yes they are hard to understand b/c they arent consistant or logical...

in your mind taking one of my guns isnt coming for my gun...

[Shockwave]

The 1st time a doctor attempts to ask me about the firearms in my home, I'm going to ask him how many black strap-on dildos are tucked away in his wifes closet.

Sorry Doc, unless I'm diagnosed with some sort of serious mental condition, the firearms in my home are none of your fucking business.

[Straw Man]

yes they are hard to understand b/c they arent consistant or logical...

in your mind taking one of my guns isnt coming for my gun...

you previously said GUNS and now it "gun"

if there is an AWB you'll still be able to have GUNS

are you just pretending to play dumb or is there something more going on here?

Lmfao so you agree that Obama wants an Awb but you disagree that he wants our guns?

[tonymctones]

The 1st time a doctor attempts to ask me about the firearms in my home, I'm going to ask him how many black strap-on dildos are tucked away in his wifes closet.

Sorry Doc, unless I'm diagnosed with some sort of serious mental condition, the firearms in my home are none of your fucking business.

hahah yea, Im going to look them straight in the eye and tell them thats none of their business.

[tonymctones]

you previously said GUNS and now it "gun"

if there is an AWB you'll still be able to have GUNS

are you just pretending to play dumb or is there something more going on here?

LOL what about the "assault weapons" I own, if they try to confiscate that do you believe they are coming after my guns?

[Straw Man]

LOL what about the "assault weapons" I own, if they try to confiscate that do you believe they are coming after my guns?

not unless they leave with all your guns and even then you can still buy more of whatever is still legal

how about you stop bothering me with your nonsense

[Skip8282]

it is well within his rights and has been enacted a record low amount of times in his tenure. Meaning Bush did this more, Reagan also.

I don't know why you keep calling others stupid, when you're clearly the idiot.

For the type of EO being discussed, it's never been challenged on it's constitutionality so it's anyone's guess as to whether the President has the authority.


Secondly, you're talking as the quantity has any relevance.  It doesn't.

As long as the EO's apply to matters of the Executive and don't run into potential constitutional conflicts, the President can issue a million.  Or he can issue none.

Qty is irrelevant.

[Voice of Doom]

Which of the 23 do you guys disagree with?

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

I don't care for this one.  I pay a doctor to perform a service.  I pay him for his experieince and talent...not to be my daddy and ask me about "guns in my home".  It's a slippery slope from that to doctors being required to tell a gov agent that I have guns in my home.

[Straw Man]

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

I don't care for this one.  I pay a doctor to perform a service.  I pay him for his experieince and talent...not to be my daddy and ask me about "guns in my home".  It's a slippery slope from that to doctors being required to tell a gov agent that I have guns in my home.

all is say is "does not prohibit"

it doesn't say they are required to do so or that you are required to answer

[Shockwave]

You dont think the constitution should be altered as times change?

Human nature doesn't change, so why should we change a document designed to protect us from exactly that?

[tonymctones]

all is say is "does not prohibit"

it doesn't say they are required to do so or that you are required to answer

why would doctors ever even ask about guns in a home?

[Straw Man]

why would doctors ever even ask about guns in a home?

I can think of at least a few reason

doesn't surprise me at all that you can't even think of one

par for the course

[Shockwave]

why would doctors ever even ask about guns in a home?

I don't understand that either, unless it's a mental health doctor and their patient has some sort of severe mental issue. Groink is right, seems like they are trying to make it easier to create a database of firearms owners.

The other one that bothers me is them trying to get everyone to offer up their data to go into the Federal background check program... Is that program only for firearms, or is that the same program that employers access when they're screening potential employees?

If its the latter, that seems extremely wrong.

[tonymctones]

I can think of at least a few reason

doesn't surprise me at all that you can't even think of one

par for the course

go straight ahead and lay them on us straw

[Straw Man]

I don't understand that either, unless it's a mental health doctor and their patient has some sort of severe mental issue. Groink is right, seems like they are trying to make it easier to create a database of firearms owners.

The other one that bothers me is them trying to get everyone to offer up their data to go into the Federal background check program... Is that program only for firearms, or is that the same program that employers access when they're screening potential employees?

If its the latter, that seems extremely wrong.

why don't we already have a base of firearm owners ?

I doubt reminding doctors that that are not prohibited from asking about guns has anything to do with creating a database (let's hope not because it would be a ridiculously stupid way of doing so)

[Straw Man]

go straight ahead and lay them on us straw

person is being treated for depression
person is on mood altering drugs
small kids in the home
kids with specific issues (like the shooter in CT)
person has a history of alcohol or drug abuse

that took about ten seconds

I'm sure there are many more

[tonymctones]

why don't we already have a base of firearm owners ?

I doubt reminding doctors that that are not prohibited from asking about guns has anything to do with creating a database (let's hope not because it would be a ridiculously stupid way of doing so)

b/c ppl will use it to single out gun owners....

now please enlighten us as to why a doctor would want/need to ask you about guns in your house?

[Shockwave]

why don't we already have a base of firearm owners ?

Because it's no ones business if I have a firearm in my home.

And what possible reason could they have for reminding doctors that its not prohibited to ask about firearms, unless they want them to be making notes? Seriously, why even bring it up unless they have some reason that they want doctors to be asking people about firearms? It's none of their fucking business.

[Straw Man]

Because it's no ones business if I have a firearm in my home.

And what possible reason could they have for reminding doctors that its not prohibited to ask about firearms, unless they want them to be making notes? Seriously, why even bring it up unless they have some reason that they want doctors to be asking people about firearms? It's none of their fucking business.

sure it is

and again, no one is saying doctors are required to ask about them

[Skip8282]

Number #10

Wonder if they'll include when then government loses weapons as well.


Who knows...might happen...someday...aroun d Mexic...oh wait...

[tonymctones]

person is being treated for depression
person is on mood altering drugs
small kids in the home
kids with specific issues (like the shooter in CT)
person has a history of alcohol or drug abuse

that took about ten seconds

I'm sure there are many more

all the things you named are addressed by mental health professionals, not physicians....

why would your average everyday physician need to ask you about guns in your house?

You could also make the same arguments about asking them about owning a car.....seeing as cars kill more ppl with drunk driving than guns shouldnt that be more of a concern?

[Shockwave]

sure it is

and again, no one is saying doctors are required to ask about them

Really? Why? Why is it anyones business what is in my home if I'm a responsible and mentally stable adult?

[Straw Man]

all the things you named are addressed by mental health professionals, not physicians....

why would your average everyday physician need to ask you about guns in your house?

You could also make the same arguments about asking them about owning a car.....seeing as cars kill more ppl with drunk driving than guns shouldnt that be more of a concern?

who do you think writes prescriptions and many doctors (GP's) talk to their clients about drugs, alcohol, depression etc..

spare me the lame arguments about cars

why not just stick with hammers if you want to make dumb arguments