I paid him for a training session Gold's Venice once in the 90's he was interesting. Knew his stuff we did chest and triceps very short and brief, Pec Deck then Incline Smith machine press no rest between after resting then Nautilus Tricep machine that was it. We then sat outside and talked about his life he drove a old brown car and smoked alot but I'll never forget it, after that we spoke on the phone a few times. Still cant believe he died so early.