BREAKING NEWS - Atlanta Middle School Shooting

[The True Adonis]

You know for the longest time I was against abortion, but you make valid points and I have been slowly more in favor of abortion, simply because I see the people who do get abortions...It is never people who are contributing members to society.  I also believe anyone on Welfare should have 3 months to get off welfare while pregnant or be forced to have a mandatory abortion

All walks of life get them.  No matter if they are contributing to society or are millionaires, they both reducing the strain on resources and our economy.  One human being gobbles up a significant amount of money and resources in their lifetime.  

[Soul Crusher]

Abortion alone cuts down on more gun violence than any single measure ever implemented.  More Abortions, less gun violence and violence in the future.  How could anybody be against this?  Plus its less strain on all economic and resource systems.

Anyone who is Pro-Life should have to pay for the Unwanted Babies and Pregnancies to term and give the Pro-Choice the option out of paying any of it.

The image was funny to me.   

[Roger Bacon]

Guns dont kill people, retard fucking americans arguing for guns rights do.

What self respecting white man has time to argue for guns, like fuck seriously there's something fucking wrong with your country.

Fuck off, ignorant savage.

[Soul Crusher]

Says who? You just don't know what the fuck you're talking about. The state of Connecticut already has an ' assault weapons ban ' in effect , Obama wants to reinstate it for the rest of the country. It would not and did not prevent anything

Connecticut has some of the most stringent gun laws in the United States and it still happened. NOT one single position offered up by the anti-gun lobbies would have prevented this NONE

[Roger Bacon]

Why are foreigners so butt hurt about Americans having guns, but they don't mind all the murders in Russia or Brazil where guns are banned?

[Roger Bacon]

YES!!

"BECAUSE THERE ARE CRIMINALS, I DON'T LOSE MY RIGHTS!"

[Radical Plato]

YES!!

"BECAUSE THERE ARE CRIMINALS, I DON'T LOSE MY RIGHTS!"

Geez, posting a picture of half a dozen criminals isn't helping your case.

[Roger Bacon]

Geez, posting a picture of half a dozen criminals isn't helping your case.

Ladies and gentlemen, these are the kind of people that want to forcefully disarm you.^^^

This is where the debate ends, our views are to vastly different to achieve anything here. 

[Metabolic]

I love how with every shooting trigger-happy freaks go nuts about buying even more guns to defend themselves...by 2025 everybody will be having an armed cybernetic robocop-esque guard to go to the fucking grocery store.  Instead, us, the rest of the world will still be living quietly and peacefully leaving our kids at school without the fear of some random ignorant piece of shit marauding around willing to solve their problems THE MURRIKAN WAY.

LONG LIVE THE LAND OF THE FREE

[Parker]

I've seen some of the craziest shit lately, I was driving through a low income/section 8 neighborhood and this little two year old darted for the busy street.  I slammed by brakes on, the kid stopped just in time.  His gigantic mom ran out finally, grabbed him by the arm and started beating him.  

I understand abortion now...

he'll think twice before running out in the street without looking...
Being almost hit and getting a whuppin for it, helps...

[Roger Bacon]

I love how with every shooting trigger-happy freaks go nuts about buying even more guns to defend themselves...by 2025 everybody will be having an armed cybernetic robocop-esque guard to go to the fucking grocery store.  Instead, us, the rest of the world will still be living quietly and peacefully leaving our kids at school without the fear of some random ignorant piece of shit marauding around willing to solve their problems THE MURRIKAN WAY.

LONG LIVE THE LAND OF THE FREE

 

[Roger Bacon]

he'll think twice before running out in the street without looking...
Being almost hit and getting a whuppin for it, helps...

Yeah but she was the idiot that was up on the porch, while her tiny kid ran around in the front yard in a diaper in 40 degree weather.

She's the one that needs to be beat.


The kid is going to grow up to be an even bigger idiot than his mother.

[Metabolic]

Yeah they lived quietly & peacefully in Norway too , they thought they had it all figured out and that willful ignorance cost 77 their lives and 242 injuries. Pretending danger isn't all about doesn't change that it is.

Oh no, one guy killed 77 people?? PREPOSTEROUS!  Imagined if that happened systematically in a country for decades...oh wait.  

Call it as you will blind folks, violence brings more violence and YOUR KIDS are the living (or dying, lel) proof of it.

[Radical Plato]

You just played your hand right here , whenever someone confronts you with facts you attack them personally , ad hominem attacks is all you have left because you were outed for being a hypocrite when screaming about special interest groups and you haven't uttered a word about the anti-gun special interest groups trying their hardest to usurp the Constitution.

And anything that can be asserted without facts can be dismissed without them as well. I can prove that more guns doesn't mean more violence can you prove they do? of course not because if you could you would have instead of just making the assertion.  


a citizen has a universal human right to safety and security This is actually something we both agree on , however banning guns does not equate to making anyone more safe or secure. You don't want guns don't buy one but to claim I shouldn't be able to buy on to protect myself and my family is immoral

See above , anti-gun people are NOT upholding the ' Universal human right to safety ' They are a special interest lobby on par with the NRA in their zealotry , at least the NRA actually does some good , all these people want to do is make people less safe.

The Universal Declaration of Human rights doesn't trump MY Constitution. You be happy in your country with your special interest groups controlling your life. I don't worry about your country , stop trying to dictate policy in my country.  

You are so full of shit, you cannot prove that more guns = less violence.  This is what is absolutely insane about Gun Nutters, they simply don't understand basic mathematics.  If there is say 100 swimming pools in a small community of 10000 residents. And every year for 10 years 1 person drowns and dies in the pool, so over the course of 10 years, ten people drowned and died.  So, based on the law of averages you have a 1% fatality rate, now if everyone in that community gets a pool, you now have one hundred people dying per year, all based on an increase in pool ownership. The amount of fatalities is know 100 times greater than when it was when only a few people owned a pool. This simple equation applies with anything that cause fatalities, including guns.  More Guns equals MORE VIOLENCE and DEATH!

You guys live in some utopian modern day wild west fantasy world where every one carries a gun and the good guys always win the shoot out.  Dream on.  The fact remains, children will continue getting murdered by guns at embarrassing rates compared to the rest of the civilised industrialised world, Gun Nutters will continue to masturbate while holding their guns, and sociopathic Special interest groups like the NRA will continue to hold every one hostage, man woman and child.

And suggesting others are immoral because others don't want to be murdered by a gun because you want one is the most absurd thing I have ever heard.  This is why they call you guys NUTTERS.  The sad thing is, you fail to understand, the very thing you claim affords you some type of security is the very thing that robs other citizens of theirs.  I think it is highly IMMORAL to suggest that you should be able to own something that dramatically increase my chances of being murdered or injured.  Outright sociopathic in FACT!

[Roger Bacon]

Oh no, one guy killed 77 people?? PREPOSTEROUS!  Imagined if that happened systematically in a country for decades...oh wait.  

Call it as you will blind folks, violence brings more violence and YOUR KIDS are the living (or dying, lel) proof of it.

Extremely remote occurrence when compared to our total population.

We won't allow the government to trample peoples rights, to accommodate criminals.


I feel guilty, I have a gun I don't really need while you're not legally allowed to own one and you could probably really use it!  

[Metabolic]

Is this gun related homicide? Does this have anything to do with mass murdering? Do you see any country with such social issue on gun property?

I will pass on you statistics until I see some real evidence.  Furthermore, luckily , that isnt my countries situation.

[Soul Crusher]

 

[Metabolic]

Extremely remote occurrence when compared to our total population.

I dont know the numbers, but the fact that its actually systematic and spread nationally should be mildly alarming.  Notice violence in general (be it of any nature) is a problem world wide, nothing new here, what calls my attention the most is that this particular type of violence is exacerbated with guns, irrational shooting to groups of people (its easier to mass murder with a gun than with say, a bat). Im not talking about hate crimes, nor organized criminals, no, shooting kids, shooting Uni students, shooting people at the fucking movies, do you not see how particular your situation is compared to other type of violence (for example, drug related?) This is violence qua violence, made easy because of lax gun legislation and poor social awareness and responsibility.

We won't allow the government to trample peoples rights, to accommodate criminals.

Statistic for a "shitty" country like mine were released yesterday (www.emol.cl), all forms of violent crime have diminished, no chang ein gun control regulation.  Also, I am sick and tired of reading this "people´s rights" argument, you just dont understand that rights can and do change across the world.  Rights have an ethical grounding, and if you value more the right to own guns without the actual duty of education and responsibility, than social safety and peace well, you are free to be unreasonable.  

I feel guilty, I have a gun I don't really need while you're not legally allowed to own one and you could probably really use it!  

Why would I really use it? Why do you feel the need to lie about me? Does it give you peace of mind to lie to yourself thinking ERRYBODY NEEDS GUNZZZ TO BE HAPYY?

[Roger Bacon]

We don't value the right to bear arms because we merely like guns.  I don't have much of an interest in guns.

It's an essential right because it empowers the individual.  As long as the right to bear arms is so relevant, it will stand.

[Soul Crusher]

 

[Metabolic]

We don't value the right to bear arms because we merely like guns.  I don't have much of an interest in guns.

This is an empirical matter, Id actually say that most, if not all, of the trigger-happy freaks do actually like guns and hence fight for lax legislation which will enble them to access all type of toys they fantasize about (very phallocentric by the way).

It's an essential right because it empowers the individual.  As long as the right to bear arms is so relevant, it will stand.

It is an essential right because its in the bill of rights, which in turn has brooded in your folk a cultural legacy of gun-love.  When the folk themselves open their eyes and see that violence only brings more violence (and your kids pay with their life for it) you will be willing to ammend the constitution, just like almost every other country has done, changing constitutions to reflect the ethical imperatives of the time.  Until then, yes, you are completely free to suck the cock of the NRA and buy all the toys you want, I am not saying that you cant, I am saying that you SHOULDNT.

(And all illegal guns should be confiscated and all legal owners should take new, much harsher psychological tests followed by public education and awareness campaigns, in schools, in workplaces, everywhere.)

[disco_stu]

clearly the gun lobby has a grip on the simple people in the USA.

You cant argue with simple people- you will never convince them because they just dont get it.

its like trying to explain numbers to a downy...he'll just try and hug you and then eat a moth.

i say deregulate aircraft and air traffic control..they dont kill many people, so lets just make it real easy for everyone to get them and they can fly them where ever they want, whenever they want...besides, its just the crazy plane owners who cause the problems.

and while on the topic- you dont want to pay for welfare but you are ok paying for the millions in costs everytime there is a shooting- not just a mass shooting?!

watching the US from the safety of my country is like watching a slow motion train wreck. ..i really feel sorry for you. ive been there many times and the poverty and violence is astounding. if it ever was the best place on earth, its not even close now...not by a long shot.

[Metabolic]

clearly the gun lobby has a grip on the simple people in the USA.

You cant argue with simple people- you will never convince them because they just dont get it.

its like trying to explain numbers to a downy...he'll just try and hug you and then eat a moth.

i say deregulate aircraft and air traffic control..they dont kill many people, so lets just make it real easy for everyone to get them and they can fly them where ever they want, whenever they want...besides, its just the crazy plane owners who cause the problems.

and while on the topic- you dont want to pay for welfare but you are ok paying for the millions in costs everytime there is a shooting- not just a mass shooting?!

]watching the US from the safety of my country is like watching a slow motion train wreck. ..i really feel sorry for you[/b. ive been there many times and the poverty and violence is astounding. if it ever was the best place on earth, its not even close now...not by a long shot.

This is exactly how I feel, I love the US, have many friends there, and envy a lot of your culture, this particular aspect is really lacking though.

[Soul Crusher]

I feel the same way about the 1st amendment - leave it the fuck alone!

clearly the gun lobby has a grip on the simple people in the USA.

You cant argue with simple people- you will never convince them because they just dont get it.

its like trying to explain numbers to a downy...he'll just try and hug you and then eat a moth.

i say deregulate aircraft and air traffic control..they dont kill many people, so lets just make it real easy for everyone to get them and they can fly them where ever they want, whenever they want...besides, its just the crazy plane owners who cause the problems.

and while on the topic- you dont want to pay for welfare but you are ok paying for the millions in costs everytime there is a shooting- not just a mass shooting?!

watching the US from the safety of my country is like watching a slow motion train wreck. ..i really feel sorry for you. ive been there many times and the poverty and violence is astounding. if it ever was the best place on earth, its not even close now...not by a long shot.

[dr.chimps]

I feel the same way about the 1st amendment - leave it the fuck alone!

I don't see silk in your future.