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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1800 on: February 14, 2013, 02:17:48 PM »
dont worry groink, I suspect that jack t is a conspiracy theorist who cannot possibly accept rational explanations, they think that they "know" whats "really going on" because it elevates them from their normal failed humdrum existence's

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1801 on: February 14, 2013, 02:18:25 PM »
Giving the Police the ability to Fire Bomb a house and not be held accountable is a dangerous precedent that should not be set.  

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1802 on: February 14, 2013, 02:18:33 PM »
So if you've become bored with it, could it be that you haven't thought it completely through?


No it's that I have COMPLETELY thought it through, i know exactly what I'm saying and state FACT....and i'm bored indulging these half baked arguments based on nonsense like cops being fired upon isn't dangerous  ::)....troll on

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1803 on: February 14, 2013, 02:19:50 PM »
Giving the Police the ability to Fire Bomb a house and not be held accountable is a dangerous precedent that should not be set.  

Janet Reno and the Federal Government did it at WACO, nothing new.

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1804 on: February 14, 2013, 02:20:51 PM »

No it's that I have COMPLETELY thought it through, i know exactly what I'm saying and state FACT....and i'm bored indulging these half baked arguments based on nonsense like cops being fired upon isn't dangerous  ::)....troll on
Its dangerous, but it doesn`t give the Police the ability or right justification to burn things down.  Why don`t the police have flamethrowers and grenades or land mines?  Their use of force and how to deliver it has to be defined at some point and in this case, they overstepped it.  

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1805 on: February 14, 2013, 02:21:00 PM »
I thought the police ID'd him... he fired 15 rounds but didn't hit them...

then he ran to the cabin and they chased him, at which point he was quicker.

I thought their best course of action - against a guy with rifles, etc - was to follow and radio it in.  why in the world there were two of them creeping up around the cabin is beyone me

are we arguing semantics?   he killed innocent cops.  upside down, in a tree, suspecting, unsuspecting.

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1806 on: February 14, 2013, 02:22:25 PM »
Giving the Police the ability to Fire Bomb a house and not be held accountable is a dangerous precedent that should not be set.  


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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1807 on: February 14, 2013, 02:26:06 PM »

No it's that I have COMPLETELY thought it through, i know exactly what I'm saying and state FACT....and i'm bored indulging these half baked arguments based on nonsense like cops being fired upon isn't dangerous  ::)....troll on

So why do you think I said this:

So it seems the conflict is whether the deliberate use of fire is ok.  If this person was shooting, then deadly force, itself, was obviously green-lighted.

If the person was positioned so his bullets had a path toward the cops, then he would be positioned in such a way to be taken out, which is what the story says happened to him by sniper.

You're so fucking bored, you aren't even reading the very thread you're fighting in.

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1808 on: February 14, 2013, 02:26:11 PM »

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1809 on: February 14, 2013, 02:26:19 PM »
I thought the police ID'd him... he fired 15 rounds but didn't hit them...

then he ran to the cabin and they chased him, at which point he was quicker.

I thought their best course of action - against a guy with rifles, etc - was to follow and radio it in.  why in the world there were two of them creeping up around the cabin is beyone me

Well, that's what I'm here for... If the officers radioed it in.. then sat in their patrol cars all nice and safe a distance away, Dormer might not just stop at the first place he came across. He might try and escape. Cabin has at least 4 corners... it was their job to try and keep him from getting away and likely murdering more people. It's a sucky job but somebody has to step away from the keyboard every once in awhile and do it.    

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1810 on: February 14, 2013, 02:27:28 PM »
Giving the Police the ability to Fire Bomb a house and not be held accountable is a dangerous precedent that should not be set.  

But, give police the ability to launch CS gas into a house containing a killer who is shooting at them and hell, they might live to tell about it.. 

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1811 on: February 14, 2013, 02:27:38 PM »
Well, that's what I'm here for... If the officers radioed it in.. then sat in their patrol cars all nice and safe a distance away, Dormer might not just stop at the first place he came across. He might try and escape. Cabin has at least 4 corners... it was their job to try and keep him from getting away and likely murdering more people. It's a sucky job but somebody has to step away from the keyboard every once in awhile and do it.    
They get paid to do it.  Why complain?

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1812 on: February 14, 2013, 02:27:50 PM »
dont worry groink, I suspect that jack t is a conspiracy theorist who cannot possibly accept rational explanations, they think that they "know" whats "really going on" because it elevates them from their normal failed humdrum existence's

Fuck off, you skinny queer.  You've got enough enemies as it is.

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1813 on: February 14, 2013, 02:28:32 PM »
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Fuck off, you skinny queer.  You've got enough enemies as it is.
Epic response, true getbigger style.

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1814 on: February 14, 2013, 02:30:33 PM »
So why do you think I said this:

You're so fucking bored, you aren't even reading the very thread you're fighting in.

I saw that.. i wasresponding to your 12 other posts directed at me where you try and say there was no danger.

listen, it'spretty obvious at this point you are just asking loaded questions and will just move the goalposts as needed, I have no interest.

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1815 on: February 14, 2013, 02:30:51 PM »
Epic response, true getbigger style.

lol..Peace, Jeff :)

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1816 on: February 14, 2013, 02:32:50 PM »
They get paid to do it.  Why complain?

I didn't hear of any officers complaining, I hear them yelling saying "burn motherfucker"

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1817 on: February 14, 2013, 02:33:28 PM »
I saw that.. i wasresponding to your 12 other posts directed at me where you try and say there was no danger.

listen, it'spretty obvious at this point you are just asking loaded questions and will just move the goalposts as needed, I have no interest.

I'm not going back to find your original post on the subject, because you've probably changed it by now.  You indicated that it was ok with you if the police decided to subvert law.  That's how this discussion started.

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1818 on: February 14, 2013, 02:35:00 PM »
I didn't hear of any officers complaining, I hear them yelling saying "burn motherfucker"
Right, but Mr. Agnostic called the job sucky and that "someone has to do it", so I felt like it was best to remind him that they are actually getting paid for it and it was always part of the job description.  If they wanted a job delivering Pizzas, they should have gotten a job delivering Pizzas.  

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1819 on: February 14, 2013, 02:38:22 PM »
I didn't hear of any officers complaining, I hear them yelling saying "burn motherfucker"

Responding to the situation in such a way would strongly suggest that there was a desire for the situation to occur.  So you can see how easily suspicions would arise.

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1820 on: February 14, 2013, 02:40:52 PM »
Nice getbig censor.  Mofo now equals "guy"  ::) ::)

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1821 on: February 14, 2013, 02:49:46 PM »
Right, but Mr. Agnostic called the job sucky and that "someone has to do it", so I felt like it was best to remind him that they are actually getting paid for it and it was always part of the job description.  If they wanted a job delivering Pizzas, they should have gotten a job delivering Pizzas.  

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1823 on: February 14, 2013, 02:53:28 PM »
Responding to the situation in such a way would strongly suggest that there was a desire for the situation to occur.  So you can see how easily suspicions would arise.

of course it would. it would behoove an intelligent individual to not get sucked into the hyperbole and look at things as they really occured and in the proper context.

EG...the cop who said that was watching the house burn minutes after the fire started and nothing to do with setting it. it was an emotional outburst, completely normal given the situation.

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Re: Chris Dorner - Southern California - rise and fall
« Reply #1824 on: February 14, 2013, 02:59:43 PM »
of course it would. it would behoove an intelligent individual to not get sucked into the hyperbole and look at things as they really occured and in the proper context.

EG...the cop who said that was watching the house burn minutes after the fire started and nothing to do with setting it. it was an emotional outburst, completely normal given the situation.

If the situation includes a determination to kill this person in spectacular style, I would agree that it's normal.