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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #100 on: February 25, 2013, 05:16:56 PM »
That's probably because, like me, those "many" cut their teeth into bodybuilding during the 90s (or, in my case, the late 80s).

Guess what!! The guys from the "Golden Era (70s)" think the same thing.

How many times did I hear and read, during the 90s, that the guys from the 70s were the greatest of all time? They trained harder; they had more comraderie; they were stronger; they weren't as drug-dependent; if they competed today, they'd still dominate; their physiques were unique and you could tell them apart by just a silhouette (whereas, today's guys are all cookie-cutter); blah, blah, blah!

You just appear upset that Cutler (and Jackson, BTW) did what your 90s favorites (excluding Dorian and Ronnie) couldn't do: WIN THE OLYMPIA!

And, they beat many of your favorites repeatedly, in the process. Cutler vaulted to 2nd at the Olympia and STAYED THERE, until he finally surpassed Ronnie.

Jackson wasn't too far behind, staying in 3rd or 4th, until he snuck up on Cutler and won it all in 2008.

Actually..... No I say the 90's was considered one of the best era, not the best... 70's, 80's are very good too.

What u have now is Phil heaths, cutler,  branch warrens.... Guys that all look smooth but ripped drugs are all over the place

Are u willing to say cutler and warren are two of the best? What do u think of branch??

Just bc one won the Olympia, and the other 2 AC where does that put them? U willing to say branch is better than Shawn Ray...

Since u been in bbing u should know that just bc a physique like dex which is very good isnt better than wheeler or levrone.... Same with cutler , I reckon to say those 2 wouldn't hang from 90-97/98.

Im sure u think cutler is better than all the guys mentioned  ::)

At the same time u r probably one of those that think Phil Heath is the best ever...a long with branch ...

Form your comprehension branch is better than all the 90's guys minus Olympia winners... Haha oh brother

And this whole thing started between who is better ray or dex.. Guess what?? From your point of view of wins

Dex NEVER beat Ray so going from what u say

Ray is better than Dex ;)

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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #101 on: February 25, 2013, 05:27:21 PM »
cutler was gifted his wins at the ASC and O, he had a subpar back, he was two diff people. No body can explain why he won over Chris Cormier at the ASC. When you look at Chris and Cutler, you can clearly see who was better, and. Chris was the better. If Cutler had Dorian or Ronnie's back, I could see Cutler winning, but he had a subpar back.

And Cutler and Dex are from the 90s. Cutler got his Pro card in 96, Dex in 99, same as Melvin Anthony.

Exactly someone gets it.

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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #102 on: February 25, 2013, 06:39:34 PM »
Actually..... No I say the 90's was considered one of the best era, not the best... 70's, 80's are very good too.

What u have now is Phil heaths, cutler,  branch warrens.... Guys that all look smooth but ripped drugs are all over the place

Heath, SMOOTH? May I suggest some bi-focals?


Are u willing to say cutler and warren are two of the best? What do u think of branch??

Cutler? YEP!! Four-time Mr.O, three time ASC winner (at the expense of the some of the very bodybuilders you mentioned).


Just bc one won the Olympia, and the other 2 AC where does that put them? U willing to say branch is better than Shawn Ray...

Not yet? Because Warren has only placed 2nd at the Olympia once. When he placed in the top 5 more consistently, then I'll reconsider.



Since u been in bbing u should know that just bc a physique like dex which is very good isnt better than wheeler or levrone.... Same with cutler , I reckon to say those 2 wouldn't hang from 90-97/98.

They were TEENAGERS or in their early 20s back then. Cutler didn't get his pro card until 1996. Jackson got his two years later.

What you keep forgetting is that, once they turned pro, they held their won with those same guys and, within a few years, they were BEATING THOSE GUYS for the most prestigious titles in bodybuilding.



Im sure u think cutler is better than all the guys mentioned  ::)

Let's see: Cutler has defeated:

- Ray
- Levrone
- Cormier
- James
- El Sonbaty
- Schlierkamp

In fact, I think Flex is one of the few he hasn't beaten.



At the same time u r probably one of those that think Phil Heath is the best ever...a long with branch ...

Form your comprehension branch is better than all the 90's guys minus Olympia winners... Haha oh brother

When did I say Heath was the best ever?

Heath's legacy is still being written. But, with two Sandows on his record, he's off to a great start. One of the best? No question about it.

We get it. You don't like today's bodybuilders. You're still pining for the 90s. That ship has sailed away.



And this whole thing started between who is better ray or dex.. Guess what?? From your point of view of wins

Dex NEVER beat Ray so going from what u say

Ray is better than Dex ;)


My point of view is a COMBINATION of wins and actual titles WON.

ASCs: Jackson, 3; Ray, 1

Olympias: Jackson, 1; Ray, 0

Head-to-head in Olympias: Ray 3; Jackson, 0

I give the slight edge to Jackson.

When the Olypmpia roll is called, Jackson's name will be there FOREVER; That of Shawn Ray, will not. And since their eras overlap each other, Jackson's Olympia title gets more signficiant. It's not as if they're being compared to Larry Scott.

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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #103 on: February 25, 2013, 06:42:59 PM »
Heath, SMOOTH? May I suggest some bi-focals?

Cutler? YEP!! Four-time Mr.O, three time ASC winner (at the expense of the some of the very bodybuilders you mentioned).

Not yet? Because Warren has only placed 2nd at the Olympia once. When he placed in the top 5 more consistently, then I'll reconsider.

They were TEENAGERS or in their early 20s back then. Cutler didn't get his pro card until 1996. Jackson got his two years later.

What you keep forgetting is that, once they turned pro, they held their won with those same guys and, within a few years, they were BEATING THOSE GUYS for the most prestigious titles in bodybuilding.

Let's see: Cutler has defeated:

- Ray
- Levrone
- Cormier
- James
- El Sonbaty
- Schlierkamp


In fact, I think Flex is one of the few he hasn't beaten.

When did I say Heath was the best ever?

Heath's legacy is still being written. But, with two Sandows on his record, he's off to a great start. One of the best? No question about it.

We get it. You don't like today's bodybuilders. You're still pining for the 90s. That ship has sailed away.


My point of view is a COMBINATION of wins and actual titles WON.

ASCs: Jackson, 3; Ray, 1

Olympias: Jackson, 1; Ray, 0

Head-to-head in Olympias: Ray 3; Jackson, 0

I give the slight edge to Jackson.

When the Olypmpia roll is called, Jackson's name will be there FOREVER; That of Shawn Ray, will not. And since their eras overlap each other, Jackson's Olympia title gets more signficiant. It's not as if they're being compared to Larry Scott.


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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #104 on: February 25, 2013, 06:54:27 PM »
I agree, as good as Jay is, and Dex, the 90's guys as in Kevin, Flex, Shawn, Nasser, Chris were better. That's judging on physique, not titles won...

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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #105 on: February 25, 2013, 07:10:00 PM »
Heath, SMOOTH? May I suggest some bi-focals?

Cutler? YEP!! Four-time Mr.O, three time ASC winner (at the expense of the some of the very bodybuilders you mentioned).

Not yet? Because Warren has only placed 2nd at the Olympia once. When he placed in the top 5 more consistently, then I'll reconsider.

They were TEENAGERS or in their early 20s back then. Cutler didn't get his pro card until 1996. Jackson got his two years later.

What you keep forgetting is that, once they turned pro, they held their won with those same guys and, within a few years, they were BEATING THOSE GUYS for the most prestigious titles in bodybuilding.

Let's see: Cutler has defeated:

- Ray
- Levrone
- Cormier
- James
- El Sonbaty
- Schlierkamp

In fact, I think Flex is one of the few he hasn't beaten.

When did I say Heath was the best ever?

Heath's legacy is still being written. But, with two Sandows on his record, he's off to a great start. One of the best? No question about it.

We get it. You don't like today's bodybuilders. You're still pining for the 90s. That ship has sailed away.


My point of view is a COMBINATION of wins and actual titles WON.

ASCs: Jackson, 3; Ray, 1

Olympias: Jackson, 1; Ray, 0

Head-to-head in Olympias: Ray 3; Jackson, 0

I give the slight edge to Jackson.

When the Olypmpia roll is called, Jackson's name will be there FOREVER; That of Shawn Ray, will not. And since their eras overlap each other, Jackson's Olympia title gets more signficiant. It's not as if they're being compared to Larry Scott.


Hahahaha u just said it yourself, when both cutler (teen) and dex turned pro they were just beginning their careers and the rest were either hanging in there (hitting peak) or right at the mark. Lets see, Kevin and flex had their best years early to mid 90's and Cormier late 90's.... Yes I'm aware of them still competing until early 2000's but Kevin wasn't the same despite his 2nd placings and later in 03 where he tore his back or triceps, he wasn't much into it anymore. Cormier had his best year in 99 and could have beaten flex. As for flex we know what happened to him... I'm aware Cormier competed in the AC and MANY SAY HE BEAT BOTH CUTLER ANS DEX, THOSE 2 were gifted! As for his last Olympia Chris wasn't the same he went downhill quick..

What you fail to understand is no I'm not stuck in the 90's era I'm just stating that the competition has gotten weaker than that mentioned...

See you GO BY WINS NOT PHYSIQUES, in your eyes if branch wins the O he is better than lee labrada , Shawn ray, kev, flex..... That's not the case..

Get cutler and dexs cock out of your mouth and look at the pics at the AC with Chris with jay and dex...

And u the one saying dex has bigger legs.... Hahaha blind, no calves to compare to ray who was known for overall legs...

It still stands
Shawn ray > Dex

If it was based on wins than Eli manning and flacco are better QB's then someone like Dan Marino , that's not the case...

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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #106 on: February 25, 2013, 07:14:53 PM »
I agree, as good as Jay is, and Dex, the 90's guys as in Kevin, Flex, Shawn, Nasser, Chris were better. That's judging on physique, not titles won...

Out of all people u would know exactly and u r a pro physique division winner  ;D

Arguing over just wins is one point of it but u gotta look at the whole pic, obviously the guy only knows oh cutler has 4 O's and Dex 1 so mathematically they are superior case closed .


Someone with some sense...

Hope u doing on stud haven't been back to that gym in a while :D

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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #107 on: February 25, 2013, 08:35:27 PM »

culter defeated those guys when they were over the hill

Gunter was over the hill when he beat Ronnie at the Show of Strength?

Cormier was over the hill, when he won another Ironman title and placed behind Cutler as the ASC?

That's a bit of a stretch.

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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #108 on: February 25, 2013, 08:47:34 PM »

Hahahaha u just said it yourself, when both cutler (teen) and dex turned pro they were just beginning their careers and the rest were either hanging in there (hitting peak) or right at the mark. Lets see, Kevin and flex had their best years early to mid 90's and Cormier late 90's.... Yes I'm aware of them still competing until early 2000's but Kevin wasn't the same despite his 2nd placings and later in 03 where he tore his back or triceps, he wasn't much into it anymore. Cormier had his best year in 99 and could have beaten flex. As for flex we know what happened to him... I'm aware Cormier competed in the AC and MANY SAY HE BEAT BOTH CUTLER ANS DEX, THOSE 2 were gifted! As for his last Olympia Chris wasn't the same he went downhill quick..

What you fail to understand is no I'm not stuck in the 90's era I'm just stating that the competition has gotten weaker than that mentioned...

What YOU fail to understand is that the competition has NOT become weaker. Those two men (Cutler and Jackson) have gone above and beyond what nearly ALL of those 90s bodybuilders have done (excluding Yates and Coleman).

Cutler knocked Levrone from the runner-up spot in 2001 and remain there (surpassing Ray and Cormier, too), except the one year he skipped the Olympia (where Levrone placed second again).

In one year, he went from 8th to 2nd, a leap only surpassed by Coleman's vaulting from 9th to 1st in one year.



See you GO BY WINS NOT PHYSIQUES, in your eyes if branch wins the O he is better than lee labrada , Shawn ray, kev, flex..... That's not the case..

Wrong again, I go by wins AND physiques. Or did you miss the part where I stated that Jackson has more mass, better peaked biceps and better quads thatn Ray, while still maintaining great shape and proportion.


Get cutler and dexs cock out of your mouth and look at the pics at the AC with Chris with jay and dex...

 You're one to talk. If you suck on those 90s guys' schlongs any more, you'll be doing the backstroke in semen.

You mean the pics where Cormier loses four times to Cutler and Jackson? I've seen the pics. My statements stand.

Cormier should take it as a badge of honor that three of the four men that denied him the ASC title have THIRTEEN Sandows among them.



And u the one saying dex has bigger legs.... Hahaha blind, no calves to compare to ray who was known for overall legs...

It still stands
Shawn ray > Dex

I say that because Dex indeed has bigger legs overall. The las time I checked, quads were larger than calves. And Ray's legs look like toothpicks, compared to those of Dex.

And, at the end of the day, Dex has more titles, INCLUDING the biggest one of them all.

You can slap any title next to Ray's name you want. Heck, you can slap ALL OF THEM next to it. With Jackson, only one title is necessary: Mr. Olympia, PERIOD.



If it was based on wins than Eli manning and flacco are better QB's then someone like Dan Marino , that's not the case...

One, Manning and Flacco's career have yet to be concluded. Yet, BOTH men have more post-season wins than Marino and BOTH men have won the big one (Manning, twice) and been Super Bowl MVP.  

Throwing for a zillion yards in the regular season, only to get your @$$ whipped in the playoffs (especially against the Buffalo Bills, who owned Marino and the Dolphins in the 90s) is why it took Marino as long as it did to make the Hall of Fame.

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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #109 on: February 25, 2013, 09:07:29 PM »
Out of all people u would know exactly and u r a pro physique division winner  ;D

Arguing over just wins is one point of it but u gotta look at the whole pic, obviously the guy only knows oh cutler has 4 O's and Dex 1 so mathematically they are superior case closed .

You miss again. I judge them by their physiques, the level of competition (WHICH INCLUDES THOSE PRECIOUS 90s GUYS), and the fact that they did what Levrone, Wheeler, Ray, Cormier, El Sonbaty, et. al. could not do: WIN THE OLYMPIA.


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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #110 on: February 25, 2013, 09:10:51 PM »
Cedric is a man with muscles

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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #111 on: February 25, 2013, 09:13:03 PM »

My point of view is a COMBINATION of wins and actual titles WON.

ASCs: Jackson, 3; Ray, 1

Olympias: Jackson, 1; Ray, 0

Head-to-head in Olympias: Ray 3; Jackson, 0

I give the slight edge to Jackson.

When the Olypmpia roll is called, Jackson's name will be there FOREVER; That of Shawn Ray, will not. And since their eras overlap each other, Jackson's Olympia title gets more signficiant. It's not as if they're being compared to Larry Scott.

Dex is a lot like Flex with better connections.  At one point Shawn knew he could make a top 5 living out of bbing without pushing his body to the limit and only doing one show per year.  Also, he has a better "after the thong" career in the industry than flex or dex will ever have.  

Shawn still wins!

Oh, Rank their women!  :o

Gale Elie - Booty To Go
Madeline Wheler - Cover Girl Looks
Kristi Ray - Ok Asian

Pick your venom.

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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #112 on: February 27, 2013, 03:14:05 AM »

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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #113 on: February 27, 2013, 03:17:38 AM »
Dex is a lot like Flex with better connections.  At one point Shawn knew he could make a top 5 living out of bbing without pushing his body to the limit and only doing one show per year.  Also, he has a better "after the thong" career in the industry than flex or dex will ever have.  

Shawn still wins!

Oh, Rank their women!  :o

Gale Elie - Booty To Go
Madeline Wheler - Cover Girl Looks
Kristi Ray - Ok Asian/Mexican

Pick your venom.
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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #114 on: February 27, 2013, 03:22:30 AM »


5.00+ looks like somthing taken from a Juruth story.  :D

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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #115 on: February 27, 2013, 03:38:11 AM »
this cedric guy is better than heath or kai could ever be...

and rhoden is a joke

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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #116 on: February 27, 2013, 04:27:18 AM »
fixed

I didn't realize part II of Kristi was Mexican, thought it was Italian.

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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #117 on: February 27, 2013, 05:46:12 AM »
What YOU fail to understand is that the competition has NOT become weaker. Those two men (Cutler and Jackson) have gone above and beyond what nearly ALL of those 90s bodybuilders have done (excluding Yates and Coleman).

Cutler knocked Levrone from the runner-up spot in 2001 and remain there (surpassing Ray and Cormier, too), except the one year he skipped the Olympia (where Levrone placed second again).

In one year, he went from 8th to 2nd, a leap only surpassed by Coleman's vaulting from 9th to 1st in one year.


Wrong again, I go by wins AND physiques. Or did you miss the part where I stated that Jackson has more mass, better peaked biceps and better quads thatn Ray, while still maintaining great shape and proportion.

 You're one to talk. If you suck on those 90s guys' schlongs any more, you'll be doing the backstroke in semen.

You mean the pics where Cormier loses four times to Cutler and Jackson? I've seen the pics. My statements stand.

Cormier should take it as a badge of honor that three of the four men that denied him the ASC title have THIRTEEN Sandows among them.

I say that because Dex indeed has bigger legs overall. The las time I checked, quads were larger than calves. And Ray's legs look like toothpicks, compared to those of Dex.

And, at the end of the day, Dex has more titles, INCLUDING the biggest one of them all.

You can slap any title next to Ray's name you want. Heck, you can slap ALL OF THEM next to it. With Jackson, only one title is necessary: Mr. Olympia, PERIOD.

One, Manning and Flacco's career have yet to be concluded. Yet, BOTH men have more post-season wins than Marino and BOTH men have won the big one (Manning, twice) and been Super Bowl MVP.  

Throwing for a zillion yards in the regular season, only to get your @$$ whipped in the playoffs (especially against the Buffalo Bills, who owned Marino and the Dolphins in the 90s) is why it took Marino as long as it did to make the Hall of Fame.


Hahahaha by your judgements branch warren is a superior bber to Chris....

And what an excuse to say quads are bigger than calves yes but dex has NO calves. And Shawn's are toothpicks u seem pretty blind yourself

U are the only guy  in this whole entire site that thinks cutler is better than all those mentioned , that should be a badge of honor in itself.... I wonder why??? Hmmmm guess there's gotta be a guy to play devils advocate

Btw Eli has beaten Brady twice in the SB is he better than Brady??? Of course he is according to u ::)

How bout this is Eli better than Peyton?? I'll wait for a more delusional answer coming from u

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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #118 on: February 27, 2013, 05:51:56 AM »
What YOU fail to understand is that the competition has NOT become weaker. Those two men (Cutler and Jackson) have gone above and beyond what nearly ALL of those 90s bodybuilders have done (excluding Yates and Coleman).

Cutler knocked Levrone from the runner-up spot in 2001 and remain there (surpassing Ray and Cormier, too), except the one year he skipped the Olympia (where Levrone placed second again).

In one year, he went from 8th to 2nd, a leap only surpassed by Coleman's vaulting from 9th to 1st in one year.


Wrong again, I go by wins AND physiques. Or did you miss the part where I stated that Jackson has more mass, better peaked biceps and better quads thatn Ray, while still maintaining great shape and proportion.

 You're one to talk. If you suck on those 90s guys' schlongs any more, you'll be doing the backstroke in semen.

You mean the pics where Cormier loses four times to Cutler and Jackson? I've seen the pics. My statements stand.

Cormier should take it as a badge of honor that three of the four men that denied him the ASC title have THIRTEEN Sandows among them.

I say that because Dex indeed has bigger legs overall. The las time I checked, quads were larger than calves. And Ray's legs look like toothpicks, compared to those of Dex.

And, at the end of the day, Dex has more titles, INCLUDING the biggest one of them all.

You can slap any title next to Ray's name you want. Heck, you can slap ALL OF THEM next to it. With Jackson, only one title is necessary: Mr. Olympia, PERIOD.

One, Manning and Flacco's career have yet to be concluded. Yet, BOTH men have more post-season wins than Marino and BOTH men have won the big one (Manning, twice) and been Super Bowl MVP.  

Throwing for a zillion yards in the regular season, only to get your @$$ whipped in the playoffs (especially against the Buffalo Bills, who owned Marino and the Dolphins in the 90s) is why it took Marino as long as it did to make the Hall of Fame.

One more thing u think besides 2001 and 2009 cutler was the deserving winner? Cutler had more gifts than Ronnie. Victor should have beaten him in 07 and even wolf was better and they wouldn't compare wolf to cutler cause wolf outright killed the pillsbury doughboy.

U think all the titles won by cutler is deserving including his AC win over Cormier. The pics are clear that Chris was better. Cutler is OVERRATED shit physique , most would agree . Same with branch u think he deserved the AC wins?? U are one delusional person if u answer yes

And yes the competition has gotten weaker those 90's guys I already explained but u fail to understand were already on their way out, beating a levrone in the 2000's is not the same as early to mid 90's and yes I know he was still placing good but u have to agree his legs and back were gone, just a matter of time. Flex played the size game with all sorts of oil/health problems that finally caught up with him, and ray retired in 01. Chris was the only one but politics played a big role and by then cutler was the golden boy he wasn't going to lose. Guess that's how it is when it's a subjective "sport"

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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #119 on: February 27, 2013, 06:21:08 AM »
choice is an illusion

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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #120 on: February 27, 2013, 06:24:46 AM »
I bet on Ced to win. I know Dexter will be on point but I'm hoping they go with some new blood.

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« Reply #121 on: February 27, 2013, 06:34:52 AM »
One more thing u think besides 2001 and 2009 cutler was the deserving winner? Cutler had more gifts than Ronnie. Victor should have beaten him in 07 and even wolf was better and they wouldn't compare wolf to cutler cause wolf outright killed the pillsbury doughboy.

U think all the titles won by cutler is deserving including his AC win over Cormier. The pics are clear that Chris was better. Cutler is OVERRATED shit physique , most would agree . Same with branch u think he deserved the AC wins?? U are one delusional person if u answer yes

Your anti-Cutler, anti-Warren rants border on the obsessive.



And yes the competition has gotten weaker those 90's guys I already explained but u fail to understand were already on their way out, beating a levrone in the 2000's is not the same as early to mid 90's and yes I know he was still placing good but u have to agree his legs and back were gone, just a matter of time. Flex played the size game with all sorts of oil/health problems that finally caught up with him, and ray retired in 01. Chris was the only one but politics played a big role and by then cutler was the golden boy he wasn't going to lose. Guess that's how it is when it's a subjective "sport"

Levrone placed 2nd at the Olympia twice in the 90s. He placed second at the O twice in the 2000s. That's downhill, alright. ::)

If Jay's the Golden Boy, why did he get knocked off the perch, TWICE, by two guys smaller than he?


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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #122 on: February 27, 2013, 06:39:53 AM »
No real weak points. Back development is also good.


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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #123 on: February 27, 2013, 06:45:16 AM »

Hahahaha by your judgements branch warren is a superior bber to Chris....

And what an excuse to say quads are bigger than calves yes but dex has NO calves. And Shawn's are toothpicks u seem pretty blind yourself

That's no excuse; that's fact, just as lats are larger than calves. Dex gets the nod on those, as well. I compared their physiques and the titles won.



U are the only guy  in this whole entire site that thinks cutler is better than all those mentioned , that should be a badge of honor in itself.... I wonder why??? Hmmmm guess there's gotta be a guy to play devils advocate

Nope!! It's because Cutler BEAT those guys at the ASC and the Olympia, eventually winning the Olympia.

The combo of beating those men, head-to-head, COUPLED with his winning the big one four times (even if you take away 2007, the one about which you keep blubbering) is why I made my statements.



Btw Eli has beaten Brady twice in the SB is he better than Brady??? Of course he is according to u ::)

How bout this is Eli better than Peyton?? I'll wait for a more delusional answer coming from u


Boy, you can't grasph a simple concept. I never claimed Brady was better than E. Manning. Nor would I, at this point, because Brady has more post-season wins and more rings, in addition to his regular-season stats (even though Eli beat him head-to-head, twice). If Eli gets another ring, then things get interesting.

As for Eli being better than Peyton......ABSOLUTELY!!! Peyton has a losing post-season record and one ring. Eli has a winning post-season record, TWO RINGS, and two Super Bowl MVPs.


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Re: 2013 Arnold Classic - CEDRIC MACMILLAN 9 Days Out (PIC)
« Reply #124 on: March 01, 2013, 02:23:00 PM »


The Jiu Jitsu Triangle

  If the title of this page made you think we were going to discuss the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu triangle choke, well my bad. I want to discuss another type of triangle that happens all the time in grappling. The Jiu jitsu Triangle I'm refering to is when, for example, I can tap you out, you can tap "Joe" out and Joe can tap me out. Many grapplers assume that when they defeat another grappler(Joe) it means that they can beat just about everyone who Joe beats. This is, of course, false and this type of thinking will stall your learning.

A few notable examples are: 1)Abu Dhabi 2003-Xande Ribeiro defeats Dean Lister, Cacareco taps out Xande Ribeiro, Dean Lister taps out Cacareco to win the Absolute after losing his second match in his weight class. 2)Demian Maia has defeated 2X Absolute Mundial Champion Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza, "Jacare" has defeated Braulio Estima 4 times, Braulio Estima has tapped out Demian Maia. 3)Cameron Earle defeated Marcelo Garcia, Marcelo Garcia tapped out Rafael Lovato, Lovato tapped out Cameron Earle.

Far too many factors come into play in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu competition and in sparring that there is never really a "best grappler". Just a list of top grapplers. We all know that some days you feel better than others. Some days you are more alert, more energetic and tapping out everyone. Other days you have low energy, don't feel like training and can't put anything together the way you want. Competition is even more stressful. Now you have the pressure to do well, everyone's watching and sometimes there's no second chance to fight if you lose. And what about styles. We've all heard "styles make fights", right? Sometimes someone's game, or style, is just seemingly too hard to beat. You may be better than this person in every aspect of the game, EXCEPT for passing this rediculous maze of a guard your opponent has.

We have all been there, I know I have(Living in Brazil, I was exposed to so many styles from some of the best in the world. Some guys I could beat, others I really believed were unbeatable, until I saw that they lost just like everyone, just very rarely and only against very smart opponents). You may also be one of those guys(or gals) who has one very strong part of your game but other very weak areas. Whether you have trouble against certain styles, body types, or are dependent on one style of your own, you owe it to yourself to learn the strength's and weaknesses of yourself and others. If you are just a guard person, work on your top game and standup training(wrestling, Judo) in practice. If you can't do well against flexible people for example, ask yourself and your coach what steps you can take to become more successful. Nobody likes to lose or perform poorly, however if you learn something new every time, then you will be that much better and that much more prepared for the next challenge.

Remember, no single victory will put you above all the rest just as no loss will set you that far back. Your ability to consistently improve and challenge yourself is what will determine your success in Martial Arts and in life. I challenge you to train smarter and with a open mind every time you step onto the mat. I promise that you will learn faster than you ever thought possible. Now go get better.Good training.















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