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« Reply #75 on: March 13, 2013, 07:47:38 AM »

Still not ONE intelligent explanation.

Not surprising for GetBig.

What kind of answer are you expecting?

The question doesn't really make all that much sense. It isn't as much government spending as it is Federal Reserve Policy.

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« Reply #76 on: March 13, 2013, 12:28:08 PM »

What kind of answer are you expecting?

The question doesn't really make all that much sense. It isn't as much government spending as it is Federal Reserve Policy.


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« Reply #77 on: March 14, 2013, 08:14:07 AM »

Sorry you whiners missed the 110% Obama rally since 2009.



 
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« Reply #78 on: March 14, 2013, 08:20:05 AM »


No but it took years for their destructive policies to take effect Smiley

They needed a full 6-7 years to destroy what Clinton had built.

To be serious a bubble is a bubble and doesnt care who is president.



What destructive polices?

  

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« Reply #79 on: March 14, 2013, 01:35:38 PM »

Compare when Bush took office to when he left.

Compare when Obama took office to now.

No comparison.

Bush took office on January 2001.  There was a recession on March 2001.  Was that Bush's fault?  No, it was Clinton's fault.  Clinton left Bush with nothing but a bursting bubble.

Is the current recession Bush's fault?  No, it is Clinton's fault:

"President Clinton's tenure was characterized by economic prosperity and financial deregulation, which in many ways set the stage for the excesses of recent years. Among his biggest strokes of free-wheeling capitalism was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation. He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation. In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods. It is the subject of heated political and scholarly debate whether any of these moves are to blame for our troubles, but they certainly played a role in creating a permissive lending environment."
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877322,00.html

Is Obama doing anything about this?  Tell me, what has Obama done to regulate credit-default swaps?
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« Reply #80 on: March 14, 2013, 03:53:00 PM »



Sorry you whiners missed the 110% Obama rally since 2009.


 

Stocks close UP again today. (10 days in a row)

Market UP 115% since Obama elected President.

Sorry you WHINERS missed out on this Historic rally.

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« Reply #81 on: March 15, 2013, 06:25:53 AM »


Compare when Bush took office to when he left.

Compare when Obama took office to now.

No comparison.

Bush took office on January 2001.  There was a recession on March 2001.  Was that Bush's fault?  No, it was Clinton's fault.  Clinton left Bush with nothing but a bursting bubble.

Is the current recession Bush's fault?  No, it is Clinton's fault:

"President Clinton's tenure was characterized by economic prosperity and financial deregulation, which in many ways set the stage for the excesses of recent years. Among his biggest strokes of free-wheeling capitalism was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation. He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation. In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods. It is the subject of heated political and scholarly debate whether any of these moves are to blame for our troubles, but they certainly played a role in creating a permissive lending environment."
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877322,00.html

Is Obama doing anything about this?  Tell me, what has Obama done to regulate credit-default swaps?

Bump.  

Anyone?  Anyone?  Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
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« Reply #82 on: March 15, 2013, 07:14:44 AM »

Bush took office on January 2001.  There was a recession on March 2001.  Was that Bush's fault?  No, it was Clinton's fault.  Clinton left Bush with nothing but a bursting bubble.

Is the current recession Bush's fault?  No, it is Clinton's fault:

"President Clinton's tenure was characterized by economic prosperity and financial deregulation, which in many ways set the stage for the excesses of recent years. Among his biggest strokes of free-wheeling capitalism was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation. He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation. In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods. It is the subject of heated political and scholarly debate whether any of these moves are to blame for our troubles, but they certainly played a role in creating a permissive lending environment."
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877322,00.html

Is Obama doing anything about this?  Tell me, what has Obama done to regulate credit-default swaps?


Bump. 

Anyone?  Anyone?  Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

Can we also go back and say that it's Reagan's fault? You know... Trickle down economics that didn't work, or the high deficit spending he started?

Just wondering.
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« Reply #83 on: March 18, 2013, 09:21:38 AM »

Can we also go back and say that it's Reagan's fault? You know... Trickle down economics that didn't work, or the high deficit spending he started?

Just wondering.

Sure.
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« Reply #84 on: March 18, 2013, 09:24:50 AM »

Sure.

But you would need to take it back even further to LBJ beginning his Great Society insanity and then Richard Nixon closing the "gold window" and turning the U.S. dollar into a full fiat currency.

Actually, go all the way back to the 16th Amendment/Federal Income Tax and of course the creation of the Federal Reserve.
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« Reply #85 on: March 18, 2013, 10:25:12 AM »

But you would need to take it back even further to LBJ beginning his Great Society insanity and then Richard Nixon closing the "gold window" and turning the U.S. dollar into a full fiat currency.

Actually, go all the way back to the 16th Amendment/Federal Income Tax and of course the creation of the Federal Reserve.

We can do that too... Proof of a slippery slope huh?
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« Reply #86 on: March 18, 2013, 10:43:41 AM »

...almost like a concerted, elitist effort to dismantle all that is good for the citizenry.
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« Reply #87 on: March 19, 2013, 02:07:12 PM »


Compare when Bush took office to when he left.

Compare when Obama took office to now.

No comparison.

Bush took office on January 2001.  There was a recession on March 2001.  Was that Bush's fault?  No, it was Clinton's fault.  Clinton left Bush with nothing but a bursting bubble.

Is the current recession Bush's fault?  No, it is Clinton's fault:

"President Clinton's tenure was characterized by economic prosperity and financial deregulation, which in many ways set the stage for the excesses of recent years. Among his biggest strokes of free-wheeling capitalism was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation. He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation. In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods. It is the subject of heated political and scholarly debate whether any of these moves are to blame for our troubles, but they certainly played a role in creating a permissive lending environment."
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877322,00.html

Is Obama doing anything about this?  Tell me, what has Obama done to regulate credit-default swaps?

Unlike any other president, Bill Clinton was warned ahead of time of the worst recession in US history since the great depression.  He was told what to do to prevent it too:  to regulate "Derivatives, swaps, basically bets between companies and banks, laying off risk."

BROOKSLEY BORN: "We're trying to protect the money of the American public, which is at risk in these markets."

Nobody, including Clinton, listened and thus the worse recession in history since the great depression started on his watch, in 1998.

"Long-Term Capital Management did business with nearly everyone important on Wall Street. Indeed, much of LTCM's capital was composed of funds from the same financial professionals with whom it traded. As LTCM teetered, Wall Street feared that Long-Term's failure could cause a chain reaction in numerous markets, causing catastrophic losses throughout the financial system. After LTCM failed to raise more money on its own, it became clear it was running out of options. On September 23, 1998, Goldman Sachs, AIG, and Berkshire Hathaway offered then to buy out the fund's partners for $250 million, to inject $3.75 billion and to operate LTCM within Goldman's own trading division. The offer was stunningly low to LTCM's partners because at the start of the year their firm had been worth $4.7 billion. Warren Buffett gave Meriwether less than one hour to accept the deal; the time period lapsed before a deal could be worked out.  Seeing no options left the Federal Reserve Bank of New York organized a bailout of $3.625 billion by the major creditors to avoid a wider collapse in the financial markets."

http://www.propublica.org/article/former-clinton-official-says-democrats-obama-advisers-share-blame-for-marke

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/etc/script.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooksley_Born#Born_and_the_OTC_Derivatives_Market

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-Term_Capital_Management#1998_bailout

Thus the great recession of 1998 was delayed until 2008.  Thank you, Bill Clinton!    Roll Eyes

BROOKSLEY BORN: "It was my worst nightmare coming true. Nobody really knew what was going on in the market. The toxic assets of many of our biggest banks are over-the-counter derivatives and caused the economic downturn that made us lose our savings, lose our jobs, lose our homes. It was very frightening."

And what's Obama doing about regulating derivatives, credit-default swaps?  Absolutely nothing.  Stay tuned for the next great recession, which will be even worse than this one.  Thank you, Barack Hussein Obama!   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #88 on: March 19, 2013, 02:14:43 PM »

Bush took office on January 2001.  There was a recession on March 2001.  Was that Bush's fault?  No, it was Clinton's fault.  Clinton left Bush with nothing but a bursting bubble.

Is the current recession Bush's fault?  No, it is Clinton's fault:

"President Clinton's tenure was characterized by economic prosperity and financial deregulation, which in many ways set the stage for the excesses of recent years. Among his biggest strokes of free-wheeling capitalism was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation. He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation. In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods. It is the subject of heated political and scholarly debate whether any of these moves are to blame for our troubles, but they certainly played a role in creating a permissive lending environment."
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877322,00.html

Is Obama doing anything about this?  Tell me, what has Obama done to regulate credit-default swaps?

Not a damn thing.

Obama is pro-wall street.
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« Reply #89 on: March 19, 2013, 02:43:40 PM »

Not a damn thing.

Obama is pro-wall street.
which is why I'm a happy camper.
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« Reply #90 on: March 19, 2013, 03:48:08 PM »

which is why I'm a happy camper.

You are a CEO?
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« Reply #91 on: March 20, 2013, 09:52:56 AM »


Compare when Bush took office to when he left.

Compare when Obama took office to now.

No comparison.

Unlike any other president, Bill Clinton was warned ahead of time of the worst recession in US history since the great depression.  He was told what to do to prevent it too:  to regulate "Derivatives, swaps, basically bets between companies and banks, laying off risk."

BROOKSLEY BORN: "We're trying to protect the money of the American public, which is at risk in these markets."

Nobody, including Clinton, listened and thus the worse recession in history since the great depression started on his watch, in 1998.

"Long-Term Capital Management did business with nearly everyone important on Wall Street. Indeed, much of LTCM's capital was composed of funds from the same financial professionals with whom it traded. As LTCM teetered, Wall Street feared that Long-Term's failure could cause a chain reaction in numerous markets, causing catastrophic losses throughout the financial system. After LTCM failed to raise more money on its own, it became clear it was running out of options. On September 23, 1998, Goldman Sachs, AIG, and Berkshire Hathaway offered then to buy out the fund's partners for $250 million, to inject $3.75 billion and to operate LTCM within Goldman's own trading division. The offer was stunningly low to LTCM's partners because at the start of the year their firm had been worth $4.7 billion. Warren Buffett gave Meriwether less than one hour to accept the deal; the time period lapsed before a deal could be worked out.  Seeing no options left the Federal Reserve Bank of New York organized a bailout of $3.625 billion by the major creditors to avoid a wider collapse in the financial markets."

http://www.propublica.org/article/former-clinton-official-says-democrats-obama-advisers-share-blame-for-marke

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/etc/script.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooksley_Born#Born_and_the_OTC_Derivatives_Market

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-Term_Capital_Management#1998_bailout

Thus the great recession of 1998 was delayed until 2008.  Thank you, Bill Clinton!    Roll Eyes

BROOKSLEY BORN: "It was my worst nightmare coming true. Nobody really knew what was going on in the market. The toxic assets of many of our biggest banks are over-the-counter derivatives and caused the economic downturn that made us lose our savings, lose our jobs, lose our homes. It was very frightening."

And what's Obama doing about regulating derivatives, credit-default swaps?  Absolutely nothing.  Stay tuned for the next great recession, which will be even worse than this one.  Thank you, Barack Hussein Obama!   Roll Eyes

Bump.

Anyone?  Anyone?  Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
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« Reply #92 on: March 20, 2013, 10:58:50 AM »

Unlike any other president, Bill Clinton was warned ahead of time of the worst recession in US history since the great depression.  He was told what to do to prevent it too:  to regulate "Derivatives, swaps, basically bets between companies and banks, laying off risk."

BROOKSLEY BORN: "We're trying to protect the money of the American public, which is at risk in these markets."

Nobody, including Clinton, listened and thus the worse recession in history since the great depression started on his watch, in 1998.

"Long-Term Capital Management did business with nearly everyone important on Wall Street. Indeed, much of LTCM's capital was composed of funds from the same financial professionals with whom it traded. As LTCM teetered, Wall Street feared that Long-Term's failure could cause a chain reaction in numerous markets, causing catastrophic losses throughout the financial system. After LTCM failed to raise more money on its own, it became clear it was running out of options. On September 23, 1998, Goldman Sachs, AIG, and Berkshire Hathaway offered then to buy out the fund's partners for $250 million, to inject $3.75 billion and to operate LTCM within Goldman's own trading division. The offer was stunningly low to LTCM's partners because at the start of the year their firm had been worth $4.7 billion. Warren Buffett gave Meriwether less than one hour to accept the deal; the time period lapsed before a deal could be worked out.  Seeing no options left the Federal Reserve Bank of New York organized a bailout of $3.625 billion by the major creditors to avoid a wider collapse in the financial markets."

http://www.propublica.org/article/former-clinton-official-says-democrats-obama-advisers-share-blame-for-marke

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/etc/script.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooksley_Born#Born_and_the_OTC_Derivatives_Market

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-Term_Capital_Management#1998_bailout

Thus the great recession of 1998 was delayed until 2008.  Thank you, Bill Clinton!    Roll Eyes

BROOKSLEY BORN: "It was my worst nightmare coming true. Nobody really knew what was going on in the market. The toxic assets of many of our biggest banks are over-the-counter derivatives and caused the economic downturn that made us lose our savings, lose our jobs, lose our homes. It was very frightening."

And what's Obama doing about regulating derivatives, credit-default swaps?  Absolutely nothing.  Stay tuned for the next great recession, which will be even worse than this one.  Thank you, Barack Hussein Obama!   Roll Eyes


Bump.

Anyone?  Anyone?  Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

What "they" did to Brooksley Born was a crime and showed just how corrupt our govt. is and just how much control the Fed and financial industry has over it.
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« Reply #93 on: March 21, 2013, 01:23:06 AM »


Unlike any other president, Bill Clinton was warned ahead of time of the worst recession in US history since the great depression.  He was told what to do to prevent it too:  to regulate "Derivatives, swaps, basically bets between companies and banks, laying off risk."

BROOKSLEY BORN: "We're trying to protect the money of the American public, which is at risk in these markets."

Nobody, including Clinton, listened and thus the worse recession in history since the great depression started on his watch, in 1998.

"Long-Term Capital Management did business with nearly everyone important on Wall Street. Indeed, much of LTCM's capital was composed of funds from the same financial professionals with whom it traded. As LTCM teetered, Wall Street feared that Long-Term's failure could cause a chain reaction in numerous markets, causing catastrophic losses throughout the financial system. After LTCM failed to raise more money on its own, it became clear it was running out of options. On September 23, 1998, Goldman Sachs, AIG, and Berkshire Hathaway offered then to buy out the fund's partners for $250 million, to inject $3.75 billion and to operate LTCM within Goldman's own trading division. The offer was stunningly low to LTCM's partners because at the start of the year their firm had been worth $4.7 billion. Warren Buffett gave Meriwether less than one hour to accept the deal; the time period lapsed before a deal could be worked out.  Seeing no options left the Federal Reserve Bank of New York organized a bailout of $3.625 billion by the major creditors to avoid a wider collapse in the financial markets."

http://www.propublica.org/article/former-clinton-official-says-democrats-obama-advisers-share-blame-for-marke

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/etc/script.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooksley_Born#Born_and_the_OTC_Derivatives_Market

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-Term_Capital_Management#1998_bailout

Thus the great recession of 1998 was delayed until 2008.  Thank you, Bill Clinton!    Roll Eyes

BROOKSLEY BORN: "It was my worst nightmare coming true. Nobody really knew what was going on in the market. The toxic assets of many of our biggest banks are over-the-counter derivatives and caused the economic downturn that made us lose our savings, lose our jobs, lose our homes. It was very frightening."

And what's Obama doing about regulating derivatives, credit-default swaps?  Absolutely nothing.  Stay tuned for the next great recession, which will be even worse than this one.  Thank you, Barack Hussein Obama!   Roll Eyes

What "they" did to Brooksley Born was a crime and showed just how corrupt our govt. is and just how much control the Fed and financial industry has over it.

GigantorX ain't lying.  

Where are the Democrats in this threads?  They blame everything on Bush, but you bring this up and they disappear.
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« Reply #94 on: March 21, 2013, 04:24:48 AM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68</a>


Minorities need homes ( they don't deserve) due to "home ownership gap"

W: "Just because u have bad credit doesn't mean u can't have a great home"  

That strategy worked well.   Roll Eyes



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« Reply #95 on: March 21, 2013, 05:27:09 AM »


Minorities need homes ( they don't deserve) due to "home ownership gap"

W: "Just because u have bad credit doesn't mean u can't have a great home"  

That strategy worked well.   Roll Eyes


"In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods."
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877322,00.html

That strategy worked well.   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #96 on: March 21, 2013, 05:45:00 AM »

"In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods."
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877322,00.html

That strategy worked well.   Roll Eyes

Stop it with these facts. You are going to confuse the libtard.
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« Reply #97 on: March 24, 2013, 12:21:56 PM »

You are a CEO?
just someone who employs a great financial planner, and CPA.
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« Reply #98 on: April 02, 2013, 02:53:45 PM »

Stocks close UP again today. (10 days in a row)

Market UP 115% since Obama elected President.

Sorry you WHINERS missed out on this Historic rally.



Another all time Market high today!

Let the whining begin.....
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« Reply #99 on: April 02, 2013, 03:20:05 PM »

Wonderful.  Another Mons Venus production. 
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