Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy

[Kim Jong Bob]

ukjeff, are you suggesting that when my 3 year old son does a shit in the toilet and shouts "Daddy, wipe my bum please!!!", there is no need for me to charge him $20 to give him the toilet paper, as it's already there on the roll?

haha excellent

[Tedim]

And after a short commercial break...we return to our show

[bigmc]

nothing like inviting the boys to a little 3 way to start your morning, eh gaymc?

sounds like you are projecting loves come

maybe you should stick to 3000 word posts explaining why you dont give a shit 

[BigCyp]

sounds like you are projecting loves come

maybe you should stick to 3000 word posts explaining why you dont give a shit 

If ukjeff was on death row, his last words would add another day to his life.

[no one]

Is that what you 'lot' call it, oh brother 

hahahaha

[no one]

sounds like you are projecting loves come

maybe you should stick to 3000 word posts explaining why you dont give a shit  

aw don't get mad at me for pointing out your closets getting full and maybe you think it's time step out and try on a new dress.

[syntaxmachine]

Are you suggesting that ukjeff bakes his gingerbread men with a massive cock on them, and bites each one off ceremoniously before putting them in the shop window?

Hahah, what I'm saying is that after haughtily baking a gingerbread house whilst prancing about in his sparkled Martha Stewart apron, ukjocklicker girds his loins, pops a cialis, and browses the shop, encouraging customers to open the door to the house suspiciously suspended at waist level and discover what the witch has in store for them.

[ukjeff]

who says carbs are bad?

[Psychopath]

who says carbs are bad?

Even though it's shaped like a penis, i would still eat it. Looks delicious.

[anab0lic]

lol people are only just realizing you dont need carbs as a bodybuilder?  Vince gironda was saying this like 4 decades ago..

[bigmc]

aw don't get mad at me for pointing out your closets getting full and maybe you think it's time step out and try on a new dress.

i aint mad bro

seems like you are the one leaping out the closet like liberace 

[calfzilla]

I'm 31 now and just started going to see my doctor regularly. He gets blood almost every time I go.  In our 20s we can do whatever but in the 30s you need to do some preventative maintenance. Even naturals like myself should go but especially enhanced bodybuilders. This is why I worry so much about cswol, I just hope he has a good PCP he sees regularly to monitor BP, blood and general health.

[Primemuscle]

A good indicator of kidney health is urine color and stream, also water retention for no reason.

Not that anyone should play doctor and assume they are "fine"..but if your piss is clear, or clear-ish, and not very cloudy and orange-tinged.... And you have a good normal piss frequency , your kidneys are more than likely alright.
I



I got hit with a kidney infection about a decade ago, and you fucking know it when something is up with your kidneys. I was pissing orange and in agony within 2 days and flew to the ER when i woke up the second day and shit wasn't any better.

You must have ignored the infection for a long time before you finally went to the ER. Although I've never had a kidney infection that I know of, I did have a bout with bladder infections many years ago. The prescription would clear it up for a week and then it would be back again. Finally the doctor scoped my bladder and found a tumor which he removed. Since then, no more bladder infections.

Urine color is not an absolute indicator of something major being wrong. Too much coffee and too little water will result in dark yellow urine.

[Primemuscle]

this diet is written expressly for entertainment purposes only and one should always contact their health care provider before setting out on a course of exercise and weight loss.
 
cheers.

Good disclaimer.

[OTHstrong]

there is one thing about gear users, and their blood panels, theyre all fine and good while on,except red blood cells, creatinine and liver values(if they dont know how to make that parameter come out low), but when they go off, everythings off.
i dont knwo what that means, maybe after long time usage a body is used to the ped enviroment and actually needs it.

now ofc if one disregards diet on ped and walks around with major water retention all year, then theyre askign for it.

i dont want to get scientifical, but damn its known to what else water retention leads.

Very good post gal, I actually could not agree more with your comment outlined

[flinstones1]

this diet is written expressly for entertainment purposes only and one should always contact their health care provider before setting out on a course of exercise and weight loss.
 
cheers.

haha

[randy841]

he never mentioned that this diet is for a bber on hgh and insulin. read the bold at the bottom, perhaps what no one is "onto" might be accurate.

Low-carb protein diet causes muscles to grow without training
If you go over from a standard Western diet to a low-carb protein diet your muscles grow. Sports scientists at the University of Michigan discovered this when they did an experiment with 8 young men and women. And interestingly, the subjects did no weight training.


Insulin, textbooks continue to tell us, is an important anabolic hormone. Because your insulin level rises if you eat carbohydrates – the insulin level reacts less to glucose fed intravenously – scientists believed until recently that a low-carb diet reduces muscle mass. Empirical evidence and studies by anthropologists and archaeologists, however, indicate that the reverse is true.

That’s why these researchers decided to do an experiment in which 4 men and an equal number of women, average age 29, exchanged their standard diet for a low-carb protein diet for a week. The figures: the subjects’ diet before starting consisted of 60 percent carbs, 30 percent fat and 10 percent protein [Before diet]. They replaced this with a diet consisting of 35 percent protein, 60 percent fat and only 5 percent carbohydrates.

The figure below shows that the diet caused a drastic lowering of the subjects’ insulin level. You’ll notice how the insulin level peaked after the 3 main meals in the ‘Before diet’, but that on the low-carb protein diet the peaks have almost disappeared.


  

 
 




The manufacture of growth hormone decreased but the decline was not statistically significant. The same is true for the concentration of IGF-1 in the bloodstream. Most of the IGF-1 found in the bloodstream comes from the liver cutting up growth hormone into smaller pieces.





You’d expect muscle mass to decline, but this didn’t happen. The researchers extracted cells from the vastus lateralis leg muscle and recorded the muscle tissue growth. This actually increased after the subjects went over to the low-carb diet.





The protein diet had increased the activity of anabolic signal molecules in the muscle cells. The most noticeable effect was that the muscle cells started to produce more IGF-1. This is different IGF-1 to that found in the bloodstream.





Ok, but insulin is an anabolic hormone. But the increased activity of anabolic mechanisms in the muscle cells as a result of a low-carb protein diet outweighs the disappearance of insulin. "Increasing dietary protein content during a carbohydrate restricted diet may be important for preventing or attenuating a net loss of body protein", the researchers conclude.

"35 percent protein, 60 percent fat and only 5 percent carbohydrates."

What kind of fats would one add for bb purposes? Especially at a ratio anywhere higher than 50% of total daily dietary intake.

[randy841]

there is one thing about gear users, and their blood panels, theyre all fine and good while on,except red blood cells, creatinine and liver values(if they dont know how to make that parameter come out low), but when they go off, everythings off.
i dont knwo what that means, maybe after long time usage a body is used to the ped enviroment and actually needs it.

now ofc if one disregards diet on ped and walks around with major water retention all year, then theyre askign for it.

i dont want to get scientifical, but damn its known to what else water retention leads.

For red blood cells - donating a pint of blood of every 3-6 months helps. Really watch this ratio while on Eq.

creatinine - to keep them in check watch supplemental creatine monohydrate intake. Generally the more muscular one is - the higher this # is. This latter fact was confirmed in a thorough analysis by a hepatologist when i ran into the problem last year.

Liver values - this fact cannot be overstated since many users mess around with alcohol (and recreational drugs) as if they're life depended on it every friday and saturday -- without which they would tip over. There is more to life then getting drunk. Choose one or the other.

"i dont knwo what that means, maybe after long time usage a body is used to the ped enviroment and actually needs it."
I disagree with this - homeostasis takes a little big longer following cessation of ped. Did a cycle for 10 months - full recovery took 7 weeks. Thereafter, everything normalized. Highest dosages 1500mg per week total with orals thrown in twice at 20-30mg dbol ed for 6-8wks.

Agree on the water retention - i have seen a few walking time bombs. We have our very own here.

[randy841]

A good indicator of kidney health is urine color and stream, also water retention for no reason.

Not that anyone should play doctor and assume they are "fine"..but if your piss is clear, or clear-ish, and not very cloudy and orange-tinged.... And you have a good normal piss frequency , your kidneys are more than likely alright.
I



I got hit with a kidney infection about a decade ago, and you fucking know it when something is up with your kidneys. I was pissing orange and in agony within 2 days and flew to the ER when i woke up the second day and shit wasn't any better.

Anything to do with long term tren usage? I believe you said 300mg Tren A weekly.

After about 8 weeks on Tren E - i start getting this pain in scrotum where i have to stop it. You also feel that pain while peeing from time to time. The longer you're own - the more you feel it.

[no one]

Anything to do with long term tren usage? I believe you said 300mg Tren A weekly.

After about 8 weeks on Tren E - i start getting this pain in scrotum where i have to stop it. You also feel that pain while peeing from time to time. The longer you're own - the more you feel it.

are you using Ephedrine, pseudoeph or any type of pre workout that might contain a legal amphetamine analog/substitute?

[cephissus]

Are you suggesting that ukjeff bakes his gingerbread men with a massive cock on them, and bites each one off ceremoniously before putting them in the shop window?

If ukjeff was on death row, his last words would add another day to his life.

ROFLMAO

[TheGrinch]

so why then do most people crave carbs if they are simply not needed? Nobody craves flax seed oil, nobody craves boiled chicken breast...

if you listen to your body it will always tell you to eat carbs. Those that dont fight the natural  urge and then call it a "diet" in which they have to "suffer" to lose weight.

  ???Just honestly asking here... not trying to argue.

[Roger Bacon]

-when hunger comes(dont confuse hunger with apetite, hunger is when stomach is empty and feels like itll implode,apetite is when a disgusting fatso swine feels like eating again).wait out the next meal as long as possible.fight the hunger attacks with water, diet coke, brushing teeth, chewing on coffee beans(very disgusting but great apetite anihilator),cigaretes,whatever.

This is an excellent thread, I'm buying the book!!

[Dominic]

Really love this thread.

Dont mean to hijack this thread but I have some questions floating around in my head for quite some
Time now. It would be very educational at least for me if i can have inputs from u guys with real life
Expereience and knowledge, be it bro science or whatever. Alot of times what i realize is people
Parroting (is it even a word lol) what others preach, example carb cycling without knowing the concept
Or idea behind it. I fell into those scenarios many times and i feel kinda dumb when i think back about it.
Thats why i really appreciate what gal and noone is doing as they are explaining and sharing the idea
Behind the diet of theirs.

1) Why do people actually carb cycle? Is it more of a caloric cycling concept? Why not just run a constant
Low calorie diet with lower carbs and have a high carb day instead of low, medium, high, super high days?
We have some pro carb cyclers in this thread, please share ur thoughts.

Im thinking the reason behind it is because of the drugs (insulin) and maybe tren? Some say to get the best
Outta running tren is introducing carbs? Will the idea hold true if you are just running low dose tren and test? I reckon carb cycling is more like having the drugs do the work (which will be very much drug dosage
Dependent) then having more of a 'natural' approach.

2) gal/noone, i was initially running this diet solely on protein for 2 weeks (~1000 calories), and then i switched it up to running 60%fats & 40% protein. Right now im trying around 75% protein 25% carbs (since im on low dose tren) I dont mean to Bastardize the diet, just playing around with it. Have u tried those different combinations and what are
Ur findings? Would be cool if u could be specific.

Hope to learn more from this. Thanks guys!

[flinstones1]

i may very well buy the book just to piss gh15 off