Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....

[Borracho]

how shredded is shredded?

.1 % less than you   

[dj181]

.1 % less than you   

so if my ab skinfold will be sitting @ 5.6 mm yours will be 5.5 mm oui?

[Mr Nobody]

You guys got to get those calves up, you cant go onstage with no calves.

[dj181]

You guys got to get those calves up, you cant go onstage with no calves.

ladies like... tight narrow slim waist, wide shoulders and round bubble ass

FUCK CALVES

[Mr Nobody]

ladies like... tight narrow slim waist, wide shoulders and round bubble ass

FUCK CALVES

Njflex and I would like to see a calve contest so as to compare weakest bodyparts.

[dj181]

Njflex and I would like to see a calve contest so as to compare weakest bodyparts.

well i still haven't decided if i will include leg shots, but if i do then i guess i'll add in a calf shot as well

[njflex]

ladies like... tight narrow slim waist, wide shoulders and round bubble ass

FUCK CALVES

I HAVE BUBBLE ASS .. ..

[Borracho]

Njflex and I would like to see a calve contest so as to compare weakest bodyparts.

LMAO

[dj181]

LMAO

maybe we should do a "who has the biggest c0ck" contest

[njflex]

maybe we should do a "who has the biggest c0ck" contest

CHECK PLEASE.....

[Borracho]

lol @ njflex

but dj....cold or with a pump?

[dj181]

lol @ njflex

but dj....cold or with a pump?

well man, i'll use this as my warm-up so i think you'd know the answer

[Borracho]

Need girls like that at my gym 

[Mr Nobody]

maybe we should do a "who has the biggest c0ck" contest

You might want stay away from from that contest unless you want Mr Nobody step in and wax you all 

[dj181]

this dieting is really pissing me the fuck off

the thing is... i really believe that i can gain muscle while losing fat at the same time, but in order to do so i need to take my cals up a bit

fuck! i actually gained muscle while losing fat on bout 2500 cals per day some years back, and i was even a natty at that point in time

i guess what i can do is finish this goddamn fucking diet and then go up to 2500 cals per day and see if i can go back to gaining muscle while losing fat

[Mr Nobody]

this dieting is really pissing me the fuck off

the thing is... i really believe that i can gain muscle while losing fat at the same time, but in order to do so i need to take my cals up a bit

fuck! i actually gained muscle while losing fat on bout 2500 cals per day some years back, and i was even a natty at that point in time

i guess what i can do is finish this goddamn fucking diet and then go up to 2500 cals per day and see if i can go back to gaining muscle while losing fat

Thats about right maybe 2700 just a bit above maintenance you will gain better on a bit over maintenance but I would not bulk up unless you want to stay that way because all you have to do is lose it again a viscious cycle.

[njflex]

this dieting is really pissing me the fuck off

the thing is... i really believe that i can gain muscle while losing fat at the same time, but in order to do so i need to take my cals up a bit

fuck! i actually gained muscle while losing fat on bout 2500 cals per day some years back, and i was even a natty at that point in time

i guess what i can do is finish this goddamn fucking diet and then go up to 2500 cals per day and see if i can go back to gaining muscle while losing fat

'some yrs back'u said it ur older and lost some time not training like u should have,,making up for lost time...thats whats good about human body it goes back if it gets stimulated again,,,

[dj181]

Thats about right maybe 2700 just a bit above maintenance you will gain better on a bit over maintenance but I would not bulk up unless you want to stay that way because all you have to do is lose it again a viscious cycle.

but i ain't talking bulking brosef

i'm talking going from 170 @ 7% to 175 @ 5%

gaining roughly 8 pounds of lean muscle tissue while LOSING roughly 3 pounds of bodyfat ALL AT THE SAME TIME, and YES.... IT CAN BE DONE

[dj181]

and btw, it looks like i'll be coming in @ 7-8%

i wanted to hit 6% but i don't think that it's gonna happen, but who knows... maybe i don't "see" myself as i really am

[Mr Nobody]

but i ain't talking bulking brosef

i'm talking going from 170 @ 7% to 175 @ 5%

gaining roughly 8 pounds of lean muscle tissue while LOSING roughly 3 pounds of bodyfat ALL AT THE SAME TIME, and YES.... IT CAN BE DONE

Then stay around 2200 for your size. One cheat a week. Obivously you have been bulking or you wouldn't have to diet as you are now.

[Borracho]

and btw, it looks like i'll be coming in @ 7-8%

i wanted to hit 6% but i don't think that it's gonna happen, but who knows... maybe i don't "see" myself as i really am

Impossible ...

Just a few more days brother....hang in there!

[dj181]

Then stay around 2200 for your size. One cheat a week. Obivously you have been bulking or you wouldn't have to diet as you are now.

allright, so i'll go to 2200-2400 after this contest and then we'll see what happens

Impossible ...

Just a few more days brother....hang in there!

yep, that's true as it's less than a week now

but seriously, i really can't "see" myself as i really am

i guess that i'm my own worst enemy, as that's been said to me a few times before, and it wasn't even Mentzer that said it, as he just called me "The Wild Horse"

[Mr Nobody]

allright, so i'll go to 2200-2400 after this contest and then we'll see what happens

yep, that's true as it's less than a week now

but seriously, i really can't "see" myself as i really am

i guess that i'm my own worst enemy, as that's been said to me a few times before, and it wasn't even Mentzer that said it, as he just called me "The Wild Horse"

So how do you see yourself currently?

[dj181]

So how do you see yourself currently?

in a nutshell as not "good enough"

but this shit stems from childhood and my macho uncles calling me a "weak fag" and that i'm not good enough and that kinda shit

maybe it a symptom of narcissism, as i sure as hell am a narcissist

and on a side note i see these ugly, fat toady pollocks walking around all proud and arrogant and i think to myself... "how the fuck do these goddamn toads have this confidence? they look like absolute horseshit" LOL!

but i know you have something similar coz you often tell me about seeing these hot females with fat toady guys

[Borracho]

in a nutshell as not "good enough"

but this shit stems from childhood and my macho uncles calling me a "weak fag" and that i'm not good enough and that kinda shit

maybe it a symptom of narcissism, as i sure as hell am a narcissist

and on a side note i see these ugly, fat toady pollocks walking around all proud and arrogant and i think to myself... "how the fuck do these goddamn toads have this confidence? they look like absolute horseshit" LOL!

but i know you have something similar coz you often tell me about seeing these hot females with fat toady guys

It's good being a little hard on yourself man....if we weren't we'd never progress. Just a friendly competition to keep us both motivated to lean out a bit. After this when you go back to gaining mode you will respond better than had you stayed at the same bf level.