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« on: March 23, 2013, 11:24:00 PM »

“How do prisoners get so big?” Afterall, they eat a terrible, nutrition deprived diet, they probably don’t take any supplements, some of them don’t have weights to lift, they exercise seemingly non-stop. In fact, everything they do in regards to weight training goes against the conventional advice of eat at least 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight, don’t lift more than 3 or 4 days per week, drink water non-stop, take supplements, rest when you’re outside of the gym, bodyweight exercises don’t add muscle, exercise one muscle per session only once per week, and don’t exercise for more than 45 minutes a day.

This is another example of why *conventional* advice is always wrong.



http://boldanddetermined.com/2011/06/24/how-prisoners-get-so-muscular/
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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2013, 11:29:17 PM »

The article is dumb, but I watch Lockup and all these guys look better than 90% of gym goers.  Some of them may be on smuggled juice, but they all couldn't be.  What can we learn from these guys?

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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2013, 11:42:19 PM »

Prisoners probably have higher test levels than the average person
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2013, 11:48:40 PM »

Training Lessons from Prison Guys

Yesterday I gave you a training video of prison guys. Several of those guys in that video were big, muscular and Squatting over 400lbs. What's their secret?

You can be sure that their secret is NOT their diet. Prison guys are NOT doing any of the stuff muscle magazines keep saying is crucial for muscle gains...

    Prison guys DON'T eat slow protein pre bed
    Prison guys also DON'T eat fast protein post workout
    Prison guys definitely DON'T have protein every 3 hours

In prison you get 3 meals per day. Low quality, low protein meals. That's it. And in some US states, as reported by the NY Times in June 2009, inmates only get 2 meals/day. This proves that diet matters less than training for muscle gains.

Yes, supplements and steroids could be accessible in prison, but they would be expensive. And remember plenty of guys are drinking 3 shakes per day without getting anywhere. Same with steroids: I've seen enough drug-using lifters who had yo-yo muscle gains depending on whether they were on or off their cycle.

Genetics? That's the cop out everyone uses when nothing they're doing works when in fact they're using ineffective training methods OR simply not putting enough work in the gym. But nobody likes to hear that story.

Charles Bronson, author of "Solitary Fitness", spent 34 years in prison (mostly in solitary confinement) and could do Push-ups with 2 men on his back and on a crappy diet. They made a movie about him in 2008 by the way - "Bronson" - starring Tom Hardy (that's the guy from Inception and the upcoming Mad Max).

Training is the secret of prison guys. Watch the video again. Listen to what they say. These guys don't drag themselves to the gym, it's the only thing they have. Look at the atmosphere in the gym: their motivation is high. You won't stay skinny and weak if you train like them, whatever your diet is.

Prison guys aren't the only group of people who get muscular using the worst diet ever. Tomorrow I'm going to give you another example... Olympic athletes.
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2013, 11:52:19 PM »

Maslow says:
September 9, 2010 at 5:19 pm

No doubt training with that intensity makes a huge difference. They also get plenty of rest, don’t drain themselves mentally at work all day and never take days off. Man, I never want to go to prison. I took a class on corrections in college and we took a field trip to a prison in Baltimore, MD USA. We saw what they eat. Lunch: 4 oz noodle salad, small peanut butter container, small jelly container, 4 slices of white bread, 6 oz milk, apple sauce. I’m sure dinner isn’t much better.
Tutsi says:
September 9, 2010 at 6:01 pm

Its a great read. Really important to remind yourself that without training hard, no diet, no supplements can make your goals a reality.

Really makes one remember to put his 100% in training and not to worry about other stuff too much.
VitoFabietti says:
September 9, 2010 at 10:33 pm

I was in West Africa a couple of months earlier this year and thought about this issue since I had heard so much about the importance of protein. Lots of peasents, mine workers, wagon carriers etc. looked very strong there and they walked around with huge wagons all day or worked their fields with biceps, cutlasses, seeds and rain as the only agricultural inputs. (Even though they didn’t squat or press I’m sure their daily tasks would carry over well to those exercises.)

People were eating on average 1,8 meals a day and not often with meat or large quantities of fish in them. Some had rice dominant meals with leafs, groundnuts and sometimes smoked fish for only 10 months out of the year and ate mostly cassava in all its forms during the 2 “lean” or “hunger” months between harvests in August and September.
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September 10, 2010 at 12:05 am

Hey Mehdi… Congratulations for this new format for the blog.. I love it!!! Keep up the good work
Nicklus says:
September 10, 2010 at 5:48 am

The only thing that confuses me is that I’ve read so much about how important it is to eat enough protein. If these guys aren’t getting 1 gram of protein per pound and still getting big and strong then the whole “eat your body weight in grams of protein” thing must be another myth? I’ve always wondered about how prisoners can get so strong without being able to eat quality food and/or enough protein…

Thanks for the post.
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2013, 11:56:29 PM »

"Bronson" 1 of the best British films ever , just like Football Factory & This is England.
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2013, 11:58:22 PM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlUFIrZIRuI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlUFIrZIRuI</a>
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2013, 12:25:12 AM »

 Undecided
Pic from that article.
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2013, 12:25:54 AM »

the only thing to remember is SAID principle.

Specific Adaptation to imposed demand.

And that the body recalibrates its nutrients to cope with the demand and intake its getting.
Thats why eating loads of protein doesnt work.

a static intake of protein ignores the homeostasis rule of the human body.

in simplistic terms, if u give the body low protein, it configures itself to make the most of what protein it gets.
if u give it low carbs, it configures itself to get its energy from other sources
if u give it low fat, it stores energy from carbs and protein..etc etc..

no static diet works...the human body is way too smart for it to.

the body adapts to everything.

and dont take that as meaning that u need to "shock" the body..thats  a myth also. The body needs time to adapt. by mixing it up all the time, it never configures itself to adapt and cope/grow.

it ends up spending all its resources on trying to configure.

once configured, it then can cope.

but, this is the simplistic version. dont start to draw long bows from this. do some reading by reputable scientists... not monkeys in the gym.

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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2013, 12:28:27 AM »

Victor pride who has thw blog is a stupid douchebag. Read this he even saya stop watching porn gives you a darket voice lol

http://boldanddetermined.com/2011/10/20/10-reasons-to-stop-using-internet-porn/
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2013, 12:30:31 AM »

that article is moronic

they lift heavy yet they are stuck in their cells doing body weight exercises and the funniest is "they have low stress"


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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2013, 12:34:11 AM »

For the record:
The article is dumb
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2013, 01:25:44 AM »

environment is certainly there

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhF4Kpg6soc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhF4Kpg6soc</a>
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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2013, 02:06:35 AM »

yes ok, they can get cocaine and weed everyday

but somehow they cant get roids


ok ok


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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2013, 02:53:53 AM »

Hm I'm thinking more and more:

* Supplements don't matter
* Dieting, the most important is not to eat yourself completely full, (as to what you eat)(how many of us eat "healty" 247 anyway ?)
* Training, "everything" works. HIT or volume doesnt matter

Like, just go lifting, dont eat yourself full. And you will get results: Strong and lean.
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« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2013, 03:13:01 AM »

the only thing to remember is SAID principle.

Specific Adaptation to imposed demand.

And that the body recalibrates its nutrients to cope with the demand and intake its getting.
Thats why eating loads of protein doesnt work.

a static intake of protein ignores the homeostasis rule of the human body.

in simplistic terms, if u give the body low protein, it configures itself to make the most of what protein it gets.
if u give it low carbs, it configures itself to get its energy from other sources
if u give it low fat, it stores energy from carbs and protein..etc etc..

no static diet works...the human body is way too smart for it to.

the body adapts to everything.

and dont take that as meaning that u need to "shock" the body..thats  a myth also. The body needs time to adapt. by mixing it up all the time, it never configures itself to adapt and cope/grow.

it ends up spending all its resources on trying to configure.

once configured, it then can cope.

but, this is the simplistic version. dont start to draw long bows from this. do some reading by reputable scientists... not monkeys in the gym.


Excellent, ie adaptation the body will adapt to a certain degree but if taken to far it will regress. Much as in overtraining. The recovery system is limited and the system is governed by the genes a person has. Genes rule.
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« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2013, 03:42:33 AM »

yes ok, they can get cocaine and weed everyday

but somehow they cant get roids


ok ok




You gotta have some kind of cash flow to do any of that. You ain't making any money. Those dudes in the video are crazy strong for being locked up, just in another state of mind. Guys squatting 5 something and benching 4, or close to it on shit meals, ramen and maybe some tuna packets. You can't lift most places anyway these days, but that is pretty impressive stuff.
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« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2013, 04:18:09 AM »

You gotta have some kind of cash flow to do any of that. You ain't making any money. Those dudes in the video are crazy strong for being locked up, just in another state of mind. Guys squatting 5 something and benching 4, or close to it on shit meals, ramen and maybe some tuna packets. You can't lift most places anyway these days, but that is pretty impressive stuff.
roids are a lot cheaper than cocaine
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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2013, 05:36:17 AM »

roids are a lot cheaper than cocaine

No shit? Thanks for the update.  Grin
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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2013, 06:24:36 AM »

“How do prisoners get so big?”

Maybe semen has steroid like qualities?
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« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2013, 08:10:21 AM »

lifting weights is probably their ONLY physical pleasure of the week -put aside fucking each others in the ass-. It also has a strong homoerotic appeal to them to watch each others lift weights shirtless obviously.
Amazing how humans adapt to their environments. They "overtrain" as there is nothing else to do, prolly work the exact same muscular group constantly (chest, biceps), and keep doing it more regularly than the average joe because there s simply nothing else to do. Basically they train with way more regularity than people out of prison, and get more results, just like natural people who train with a lot of consistency do . Consistency is the key there, and yes, their diet is "better" than the average joe diet simply because they have access to less food. Both factors = better muscle growth than someone who eat more crap and train less daily.
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« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2013, 08:12:01 AM »

lifting weights is probably their ONLY physical pleasure of the week -put aside fucking each others in the ass-. It also has a strong homoerotic appeal to them to watch each others lift weights shirtless obviously.
Amazing how humans adapt to their environments. They fore sure "overtrain" as there is nothing else to do, and keep doing it more regularly than the average joe because there s simply nothing else to do. Basically they train with way more regularity than people out of prison, and get more results, just like natural people who train with a lot of consistency do out of jail. Consistency is the key.
they get to sleep all they want

this has to be an advantage

they have no stress either, the ones that accepted their faith anyway
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« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2013, 08:13:26 AM »

Prisoners probably have higher test levels than the average person

this.  and they dont have to walk to work and deal with kids and crazy girlfriends and all that... they lift for an hour, then sit around for 23 hours.

plus they're getting close to 3000 calories a day by law:
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2010/rpt/2010-R-0502.htm

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« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2013, 08:15:20 AM »

they get to sleep all they want

this has to be an advantage

they have no stress either, the ones that accepted their faith anyway
this too. There is also a bigger need to look big for them as it means less problems with others, less physical confrontations .so they have a bigger motivation daily than people who have less chances of being physically agressed by others even if most of free people who train do train to look bigger and avoid physical confrontations with other males by disuasion too. Being big also means there are more chances you re going to be top instead of bottom when comes the need for sexual intercourses to release stress.
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« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2013, 08:17:28 AM »

lifting weights is probably their ONLY physical pleasure of the week -put aside fucking each others in the ass-. It also has a strong homoerotic appeal to them to watch each others lift weights shirtless obviously.
Amazing how humans adapt to their environments. They "overtrain" as there is nothing else to do, prolly work the exact same muscular group constantly (chest, biceps), and keep doing it more regularly than the average joe because there s simply nothing else to do. Basically they train with way more regularity than people out of prison, and get more results, just like natural people who train with a lot of consistency do . Consistency is the key there, and yes, their diet is "better" than the average joe diet simply because they have access to less food. Both factors = better muscle growth than someone who eat more crap and train less daily.

this is probably the most significant factor

they consistently train with no breaks because they are busy at work, have to go on vacation, take their kids to the ballgame, etc..

how many of us put together a few good months of training and get in good shape and then slack off get out of shape and then start the pattern all over again
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