This is the best I can do

[Borracho]

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Who is this lady hulkotron?

[Disgusted]

Dsigusted.... (sorry to hijack your post Sev)......

I find the hardest part of dieting is actually figuring out what your maintenance caloric intake is.  What have you found to be the best way to determine this, basically find out a starting point for your diet?

It's very simple, once you get to where you want to be just add in a couple hundred calories every week or so and keep track of your weight.

[Disgusted]

Your "conclusion" is stupid as fuck and borne out of pure ignorance.  You STILL don`t realize you can eat whatever you want and remain in single digits.  Keep on Keeping, moron.

Still peddling your ice cream pizza candy diet. 

[BIG ACH]

It's very simple, once you get to where you want to be just add in a couple hundred calories every week or so and keep track of your weight.

- I meant it in terms of cutting.  How do you figure out how much to start cutting out.... or is there really no general guideline for this.... just trial and error.....

[bigmc]

And guess what, you didn`t magically become fat after the pizza and beer.  You looked the same.  You see, you can incorporate that year round.  Seriously, go have a talk with No One.  You don`t need to engage in sadomasochistic practices at all.  Eat what you want, keep the same calories.  Try it and see.

no one was on tren and gh which makes a huge dif

its harder for natural guys like you to stay lean

although you have proved it can be done

[Disgusted]

- I meant it in terms of cutting.  How do you figure out how much to start cutting out.... or is there really no general guideline for this.... just trial and error.....

Oh sorry, well I usually start everyone off with around the same amounts of food give or take. I've been doing so long I don't really count calories when I start someone off initially. Also as you may or may not know I am a fan of low to no carb dieting when it comes to getting one ripped. I basically stick to meat chicken turkey fish and eggs with some green veggies. Maybe start with 4 to 6 meals and keep track of your weight. Initially you will lose a lot of water the first couple weeks then your goal would be to lost about 2 pounds of fat per week. You would adjust your food intake accordingly to keep 2 or so pounds a week going.

[BIG ACH]

Oh sorry, well I usually start everyone off with around the same amounts of food give or take. I've been doing so long I don't really count calories when I start someone off initially. Also as you may or may not know I am a fan of low to no carb dieting when it comes to getting one ripped. I basically stick to meat chicken turkey fish and eggs with some green veggies. Maybe start with 4 to 6 meals and keep track of your weight. Initially you will lose a lot of water the first couple weeks then your goal would be to lost about 2 pounds of fat per week.

Thanks Disgusted.  From everything I've read about you.... your diets sound similar to what I've almost always done when dieting down for contests.  Low to, eventually, no carbs....

Guess I'm trying new things now.... and seeing how my body reacts to higher carbs!  I actually didn't count calories my first show, still ended up looking fucking ripped (as seen below), but now I think I'm too OCD not to count......  Anyways Thanks Disgusted!  Apologies Sev for hijacking your thread!

[Disgusted]

Thanks Disgusted.  From everything I've read about you.... your diets sound similar to what I've almost always done when dieting down for contests.  Low to, eventually, no carbs....

Guess I'm trying new things now.... and seeing how my body reacts to higher carbs!  I actually didn't count calories my first show, still ended up looking fucking ripped (as seen below), but now I think I'm too OCD not to count......  Anyways Thanks Disgusted!  Apologies Sev for hijacking your thread!

No prob. When you do the no carb diet you really don't have to be strict with counting calories.

[Hulkotron]

Who is this lady hulkotron?

She is a fine little vixen that's for sure.

[XFACTOR]

Thanks Disgusted.  From everything I've read about you.... your diets sound similar to what I've almost always done when dieting down for contests.  Low to, eventually, no carbs....

Guess I'm trying new things now.... and seeing how my body reacts to higher carbs!  I actually didn't count calories my first show, still ended up looking fucking ripped (as seen below), but now I think I'm too OCD not to count......  Anyways Thanks Disgusted!  Apologies Sev for hijacking your thread!

Ifyou were OCD you wouldn't have allowed yourself to look like now

[BIG ACH]

Ifyou were OCD you wouldn't have allowed yourself to look like now

I meant when I diet I tend to be pretty OCD.  If I don't have a show I'm a little too lax!


Hope that helps!

[The Abdominal Snoman]

I meant when I diet I tend to be pretty OCD.  If I don't have a show I'm a little too lax!


Hope that helps!

Ya i've known many guys who have that all or nothing attitude when it comes to dieting. Once you get super lean again, give the 4 days super strict, 2 days anything you want and 1 day water fast a try. It's actually very easy to follow and you'll never go over 10% again.

[njflex]

I meant when I diet I tend to be pretty OCD.  If I don't have a show I'm a little too lax!


Hope that helps!

LAX!!!CMON ACH NEW YRS GET BIG PROMISE U MADE...

[Soul Crusher]

Ya i've known many guys who have that all or nothing attitude when it comes to dieting. Once you get super lean again, give the 4 days super strict, 2 days anything you want and 1 day water fast a try. It's actually very easy to follow and you'll never go over 10% again.

More details please - sound interesting.   I'm dieting down abd lean - but this is not sustainable over the long run 

[illwill]

Good job! 

[The Abdominal Snoman]

More details please - sound interesting.   I'm dieting down abd lean - but this is not sustainable over the long run 

Diet down as low as you can go...Then follow this

Day 1- super strict(low to no carb for days 1-4)
Day 2- super strict
Day 3- super strict
Day 4- super strict
Day 5- Eat anything you want. Booze it up if you want. Anything goes
Day 6- Water fast- Aim for 2 gallons of water nothing else
Day 7- Eat anything you want up until 6-7pm. Then no more food until you wake up for day 1

Repeat

The hardest days are day 3 and 4 which really are nothing because on day 5, you can eat whatever you want. If you overload and stuff yourself on day 5, day 6- the water fast day- is a breeze. By night time on day 6 you will be hungry but you get to wake up and eat anything you want. Go ahead and stuff yourself again on this day(7)but by 6pm, you get into strict mode for the next 4 days. Easiest type of diet i've ever done to maintain leanness.

[Soul Crusher]

Diet down as low as you can go...Then follow this

Day 1- super strict(low to no carb for days 1-4)
Day 2- super strict
Day 3- super strict
Day 4- super strict
Day 5- Eat anything you want. Booze it up if you want. Anything goes
Day 6- Water fast- Aim for 2 gallons of water nothing else
Day 7- Eat anything you want up until 6-7pm. Then no more food until you wake up for day 1

Repeat

The hardest days are day 3 and 4 which really are nothing because on day 5, you can eat whatever you want. If you overload and stuff yourself on day 5, day 6- the water fast day- is a breeze. By night time on day 6 you will be hungry but you get to wake up and eat anything you want. Go ahead and stuff yourself again on this day(7)but by 6pm, you get into strict mode for the next 4 days. Easiest type of diet i've ever done to maintain leanness.

Will try after my Spartan Race in april 13.   I am lean now, but i am feeling the need to gorge on pizza beer etc lately

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Will try after my Spartan Race in april 13.   I am lean now, but i am feeling the need to gorge on pizza beer etc lately

Ya I set up my day 5 to be on a friday. On this day I eat whatever I want and a lot of times gorge. By the end of the night I hate food and day 6 water fast day is pretty easy most of the day because of the gorging the night before. The hunger kicks in again by night time but I just tell myself, I can eat anything I want again tomorrow(day 7 sunday)...However on day 7 I make a point not to gorge. I do eat anything but in moderation.

[The True Adonis]

More details please - sound interesting.   I'm dieting down abd lean - but this is not sustainable over the long run 

Just eat whatever the fuck you want for 2000 calories.  THAT is Sustainable and will give you well beyond the result you are after if you stick with it long enough.

[The True Adonis]

Will try after my Spartan Race in april 13.   I am lean now, but i am feeling the need to gorge on pizza beer etc lately

Waste of time and not necessary really. 

[BIG ACH]

LAX!!!CMON ACH NEW YRS GET BIG PROMISE U MADE...

And I'm still doing it.  I've admitted straight up that I've fallen off the wagon a few times, but I'm back on again.  Not gonna lie... I'm being an undisciplined pussy its hard.. but I'm still trucking!

Just eat whatever the fuck you want for 2000 calories.  THAT is Sustainable and will give you well beyond the result you are after if you stick with it long enough.

How are you not hungry with 2000 calories... I'm eating 2500 calories and everyday I'm dreaming of just going and binging and stuffing my fat face at Dennys!  I don't do it - but its hard lol

[XFACTOR]

Ya I set up my day 5 to be on a friday. On this day I eat whatever I want and a lot of times gorge. By the end of the night I hate food and day 6 water fast day is pretty easy most of the day because of the gorging the night before. The hunger kicks in again by night time but I just tell myself, I can eat anything I want again tomorrow(day 7 sunday)...However on day 7 I make a point not to gorge. I do eat anything but in moderation.

You don't eat for an entire day?

[EL Mariachi]

And I'm still doing it.  I've admitted straight up that I've fallen off the wagon a few times, but I'm back on again.  Not gonna lie... I'm being an undisciplined pussy its hard.. but I'm still trucking!

How are you not hungry with 2000 calories... I'm eating 2500 calories and everyday I'm dreaming of just going and binging and stuffing my fat face at Dennys!  I don't do it - but its hard lol

try eating 700 cals like me, u get used to it, but you ll have to drink lots of coffee and smoke a lot of organic tobacco.

[BIG ACH]

try eating 700 cals like me, u get used to it, but you ll have to drink lots of coffee and smoke a lot of organic tobacco.

I did that once during pre-contest.... was brutal

[C-BuZz]

Try again.  

Here is his Youtube channel, maybe you can learn something from him

If you honestly think this guy is natural or any of those guy's you mention are natural then your a delusional idiot. Seriously...

Why don't you or I look like this liar Timbahwolf? Don't tell me I don't train as hard or even harder than this clown. Or that I'm a fat newbie lifter with no knowledge. Been doing this for a lot longer than you champ & I know exactly what it takes. This guy is a liar, plain & simple.

Lots of >40yr old's look like this 

He looks like an assisted athlete to me TA.

That ain't no athlete. He's a drug user.