good thread, i've heard of turner's gym and george turner, i know they talked about george on dave draper's site some time ago. phil williams was on ironage a couple of years ago don't know if he's still on.
hey funk.....phil was living in lee's summit, missouri.....just outside of kansas city......that was 4 years ago....trained shoulders and a bit of bis with him. then had lunch and talked a little shop......great guy.....had some interesting stories about yesteryear......spoke of living in europe and california. he was posting a bit at raw iron.