hey true adonis, have you watched dr lustigs lecture?

[Hulkotron]

Fruit is perhaps the best food group, I LOVE fruit of all kinds.

[dj181]

btw, what's the good doctor's bench and PR in the mile?

[BigCyp]

Fruit is perhaps the best food group, I LOVE fruit of all kinds.

QFT

1. Olives
2. Berries (blueberries & strawberry's are BOSS)
3. Pinapple

[El Diablo Blanco]

QFT

1. Olives
2. Berries (blueberries & strawberry's are BOSS)
3. Pinapple

The list goes on.  Mangos, Passionfruit, grapes, all delicious.

But Dr. Lustig tells you that FRUCTOSE IS FUCKING POISON MUTHERFUCKER!!!!!!!!!!

All fruit will fucking kill you.  AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHH

the guy is a loon.

[Archer77]

The list goes on.  Mangos, Passionfruit, grapes, all delicious.

But Dr. Lustig tells you that FRUCTOSE IS FUCKING POISON MUTHERFUCKER!!!!!!!!!!

All fruit will fucking kill you.  AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHH

the guy is a loon.

He said that fruits were acceptable as a whole food because of how the fiber content effect digestion. And the concentration of fructose in unproceesed fruit is low in comparison to processed fruit drinks..   His beef is with processed refined foods like juice and pop. He also dislikes how food companies are adding unnecessary sugar to everything.

[El Diablo Blanco]

He said that fruits were acceptable as a whole food because of how the fiber content effect digestion. And the concentration of fructose in unproceesed fruit is low in comparison to processed fruit drinks..   His beef is with processed refined foods like juice and pop. He also dislikes how food companies are adding unnecessary sugar to everything.

I am just sick though of people with average to average+ fat physiques telling what will make me fat.  We all know that bodybuilders are druggies but they also put the proof in the putting. 

[Archer77]

I am just sick though of people with average to average+ fat physiques telling what will make me fat.  We all know that bodybuilders are druggies but they also put the proof in the putting. 

Funny thing, I had that same reaction when I saw him.

[brucewayne]

GUYS!....just listen to Layne Norton...Dude knows his shit!

[Disgusted]

Hey disgusted...

Is there anything you allow your athletes to eat as much as they want?

Like celery, lettuce, broccoli or anything like that.

I know this stuff has calories but 100 calories from celery vs 100 calories from soda will not be the same for many reasons. People mention negative calories and I'm pretty sure that's b.s too though.

I usually let my guys eat a good amount of greens especially when I start to low that fat content. YOu don't have to measure just don't go crazy.

[Disgusted]

He said that fruits were acceptable as a whole food because of how the fiber content effect digestion. And the concentration of fructose in unproceesed fruit is low in comparison to processed fruit drinks..   His beef is with processed refined foods like juice and pop. He also dislikes how food companies are adding unnecessary sugar to everything.

Exactly, nothing wrong with fruit, but I never could see drinking 10 apples at a time.

[Borracho]

I usually let my guys eat a good amount of greens especially when I start to low that fat content. YOu don't have to measure just don't go crazy.

Cool thanks.

[El Diablo Blanco]

nah, he says some fruit is ok, and hes not anti carbs in general either.

he said why there is sodium in the cans, and sodium-one has to agree-is a great old trick to increase apetite, every restaurant knows this full well.

Sodium is there to bring out the flavor in the caramel and spices in Coke. Do you know what cola is?  It is a mixture of spices, vanilla, nutmeg cinnamon and caramel. Salt enhances the flavors.

It's not a consipiracy.

[El Diablo Blanco]

yeah, but this guy is a scientist and a professor, and talking about the general population.not bbuilders,lol.

hes not some random lifestyle trainer who appeared on oprah show, or in a lifestyle magazine.

he made couiple very layman term explanations which are true and explain alot.

how anyone couldnt see the problem with sugary drinks beeing one of the main reasons for the genral overweight issues is beyond me.so many ppl have their coke,or the smartasses who think they make smart and healthy choice,a fruit juice with every meal, or randomly between meals, this adds up.slowly but surely.

he even went as far and said hfcs is ok for athletes at certain times.

honestly,i dont see anything wrong with what he said.

i wouldnt just post a video of something random i came across, let alone start a thread.i think its really worth it,truthful and the best i came across.
atleast for me,it answered many question ive always wondered about.

even the guy who tried to "debunk" his claims and calls him an "alarmist" agrees on the most important points.

he didnt dare to refute the claim about how hfcs and sugar are metabolised,i guess that is, bc dr lustig is spot on on that matter.

if one understands that one point itself, he will knoiw how bad sugar is and when(sugar wont do shit to a trainer with depleted glucose stores for example)and it kills the "calorie is calorie"misleading bullshit claim.
thats precisely what the prof said too.its there to spice up the flavor and cover the sugar somewhat.

Sugar is the main ingredient in Caramel.  Ever eat a caramel that is not sweet?  He is just digging up shit trying to sound like some skeptic.

Also I get it that he is a prof.  But if he believed in the devil so much then he should at least be ripped by avoiding these toxins.

Overall the reason that people who indulge these high amounts of sugars are also indulging in everything else hence the reason they are fat.
Jay Cutler has admitted to having a Coke after workouts for the sugar.  he certainly isn't some fat pig.
Ever see these fat pigs at McDonalds order 2000 calorie meals with a Diet Coke?  Shouldn't they be lean since they are not ingesting the Fructose in Coke?

I would like to see a diet done like this.

1000 calories of protein + 1000 calories of fat per day vs. 1000 calories or protein + 1000 calories of sugar and see at then if the person put on weight or lost weight.

[cephissus]

Exactly, nothing wrong with fruit, but I never could see drinking 10 apples at a time.

wtf is with this "it's like a million fruits at once" retardation when it comes to fruit juice?

an apple has like 100 calories

8oz of apple juice, 120 calories

"10 apples at a time"

[cephissus]

problem with this comparo is, the apple has fibers, will be metabolsed differently than the juice.

that's not a problem with the comparison, it's plain as day not "like 10 apples"... fruit juice isn't super concentrated sugar like disgusted seems to think.  8oz (which i think is a fair amount to compare) of fruit juice has slightly more sugar than 1 apple, no two ways about it... it's not, in any way, "like 10 apples"

[cephissus]

yeah ok, 8oz i like small glass, thatll be 20 or so gramms of sugar.

now, most ppl thatll be one sip, they have bigger portions very often.

and if they have 2 such glasses a day, thatll be already over the daily recommendation by the govt.not counting whatever else will add to this on that day.

i swear if one eat the same thoughout the year, and has 3 such glasses daily, lets asume thats typical, he can bet the fat he gains slowly will have to do alot with that glass off juice, more than with the food.

i dont know, i avoid every drink with calories in it, its not like it hard, and ppl 100 years ago did fine without those juices too.

i rather eat my calories.

the way juice is metabloized, incasse your glucogen stores are full, its going straight away into the fat deposits.very simple.i dont want any of this.

the only time i use juice is to mix it with egg whites, which i use because it's more convenient than cooking and storing shitloads of meat.  milk also works good to mix with egg whites, but i haven't thought of using any 0 calorie drinks with the egg whites... might not be bad.

[King Shizzo]

Lots of long paragraphs on this last page. Everyone is outed.

[The True Adonis]

the only time i use juice is to mix it with egg whites, which i use because it's more convenient than cooking and storing shitloads of meat.  milk also works good to mix with egg whites, but i haven't thought of using any 0 calorie drinks with the egg whites... might not be bad.

Why would you bother with egg whites?    Why not just eat whole eggs? 

[Borracho]

Why would you bother with egg whites?    Why not just eat whole eggs? 

less calories

[Mr Nobody]

yeah, when it comes to eggs, i eat the whole thing, not even bc of something to do with diet, but because of the cost

Just take the yolk out.

[BIG ACH]

Just take the yolk out.

I think he's saying you'd have to use more eggs to get the same amount of protein, only eating egg whites and throwing out the yolk!


I eat 4 whole eggs every morning!

[Hulkotron]

Yes I don't get why people throw out the yolk.  If you want fewer calories just eat fewer eggs.  There's nothing inherently bad about egg yolks.

[Borracho]

I eat whole eggs when I'm not dieting.

I go really low on cals when I do diet so why eat 75 calories just to get 6 grams of protein.That makes no sense when I can get 4 grams of protein for like 16 calories.

[el numero uno]

I eat whole eggs when I'm not dieting.

I go really low on cals when I do diet so why eat 75 calories just to get 6 grams of protein.That makes no sense when I can get 4 grams of protein for like 16 calories.

How many calories do you eat when dieting?

[Borracho]

How many calories do you eat when dieting?

Something around 1600.

I have no problem with fats or protein and can gain well on them. Carbs my body never liked even as a kid.