Need advice to get my abs up!

[SF1900]

sf1900, thats cool, but natties cant have no say if they never tried, most of them think gear will give bigger advantage than it does.

i mean, it gives a tremendous advantage over natural, even hrt, but only as long diet and training and rest are spot on.

going lazy on training or diet will make hrt unnecesary.


unfortunately, the all or nothing approach cannot go on forever,thats true
oh, brother, have you seen ukjeff pics?

 

I can have a say. I can honestly say that someone on gear, for the most part, will look better than someone who is natural.

Galenick, fact of the matter is this:

Natural = train hard, eat right, rest right.
Not natural = train hard, diet can slip here and there and rest can waiver.

The guy on gear will still look bigger, for the most part. Obviously you still have to train and eat right even if on gear, but you can slip up a lot more than a natural and still look better.

[THE BOUNCER]

 

Yes, of course you look better than me because you're on GEAR! I am natural. Why can you not comprehend that? You say you look better than me, as if its a source of accomplishment to look better than someone who is natural.

Can your brain not understand that?  

thats your crutch. you can still look half way decent natty and you certainly can have a ripped look. whats your stats?

[THE BOUNCER]

oh, brother, have you seen ukjeff pics?

no does he look good? lets see that shit. i will always give props to people who have the balls to post pics and be fucken real.

[THE BOUNCER]

No you dont, you just think you do because your ego is being bolstered by a false testosterone level giving you an unrealistic view of life.

i can agree with that. thats why its so hard to come off. feeling "normal" is fucken horrible compared to feeling amazing. lol

thats why i try to keep the doses low to be a bit more healthy then going nuts with crazy doses.

[ukjeff]

Back in 96

last year age 47

[SF1900]

thats your crutch. you can still look half way decent natty and you certainly can have a ripped look. whats your stats?

 

You're confusing arguments.

Its not a crutch to say someone on gear will look better, for the most part, compared to someone who is natural. Its not a crutch. Thats science.

Now, the other point you made was that I can still look half decent for a natty. Agreed. And if I looked like utter shit, then you could say, "thats your crutch" since some natties obviously do look half decent.

But my argument of "youre on gear, im natural" is not a crutch. Its a fact that someone on gear will look better.

But all in all, I do agree that natties could look good, but you cant compare them to someone who even uses low doses.

[sexpert]

Back in 96

OUTSTANDING

[THE BOUNCER]

id say its safe to say he blows me right out of the water

which version? the shredded and jacked version of you or the fat man tits version?  

[THE BOUNCER]

Back in 96

last year age 47

looking damn good bro no doubt. respect. apologies for mixing you up with the fucken geeks.

[ChristopherA]

i generally run higher doses in the spring and summer and then lower doses in the fall and winter. this is my first time with mast and I am not sure I am going to keep using into a blast phase, but if it do it will be at 400mgs per week.

Throw some EQ in there and you will look sick.

[ukjeff]

looking damn good bro no doubt. respect. apologies for mixing you up with the fucken geeks

No worries. its just a forum of fun  

[THE BOUNCER]

 

You're confusing arguments.

Its not a crutch to say someone on gear will look better, for the most part, compared to someone who is natural. Its not a crutch. Thats science.

Now, the other point you made was that I can still look half decent for a natty. Agreed. And if I looked like utter shit, then you could say, "thats your crutch" since some natties obviously do look half decent.

But my argument of "youre on gear, im natural" is not a crutch. Its a fact that someone on gear will look better.

But all in all, I do agree that natties could look good, but you cant compare them to someone who even uses low doses.

stop the double talking bullshit. do you look like shit or not?

we all know and agree with your point about gear vs natural.

[THE BOUNCER]

Throw some EQ in there and you will look sick.

my buddy keep recommending that too. i may switch over to that when I am done with the mast.

[SF1900]

stop the double talking bullshit. do you look like shit or not?

we all know and agree with your point about gear vs natural.

 

Depend what you would consider looking like shit. If you consider being overweight and totally out of shape looking like shit, then no, i do not look like shit.

Plus, even if I post pics, you're obviously going to be biased because I hurt your feelings and got you all pumped up full of testosterone and anger. 

[THE BOUNCER]

No worries. its just a forum of fun  

i took your comment "your day will come" as if you were sort of looking forward to it or something. hard to read context on a forum, especially one with so many haters.

[syntaxmachine]

 
I am 100% natural.

Jesus, short and natural? Tell me you aren't black as well -- otherwise the cruelty of your condition will be proof of the Godlessness of the universe.

[THE BOUNCER]

 

Depend what you would consider looking like shit. If you consider being overweight and totally out of shape looking like shit, then no, i do not look like shit.

Plus, even if I post pics, you're obviously going to be biased because I hurt your feelings and got you all pumped up full of testosterone and anger. 

just like onemoretime, i will be honest and real regardless of if I like you or hate you. if you look great as a natty I will state that fact.

[SF1900]

Jesus, short and natural? Tell me you aren't black as well -- otherwise the cruelty of your condition will be proof of the Godlessness of the universe.

haha, no, I am white.

[ukjeff]

i took your comment "your day will come" as if you were sort of looking forward to it or something. hard to read context on a forum, especially one with so many haters.

I was speaking from experience.  

[THE BOUNCER]

I was speaking from experience.  

had to come off for health reasons? anything i should know? i am not unwilling to listen to someone who has been there and done that.

[THE BOUNCER]

to post pics on getbig at all takes plenty of courage or masochist tendencies, because he even phil heat and jay cutler get shit on

that was my point to the guy who brought pictures of the mass monsters into the thread. like wtf is the point? i never said i was a mass monster or the best of getbig or anything of the sort.

[ukjeff]

had to come off for health reasons? anything i should know? i am not unwilling to listen to someone who has been there and done that.

No, just decided I had taken my body as far as I was prepared to go without taking what I considered risks.
I competed for around 8 years and wasn't going to be a world beater so why keep going?

[SF1900]

that was my point to the guy who brought pictures of the mass monsters into the thread. like wtf is the point? i never said i was a mass monster or the best of getbig or anything of the sort.

 

You did say, "I heard you guys were brutal." So people are going to go to any length to make you look and feel like crap. You obviously knew it was GB. Calm down, nancy, it's not that serious.

You of course look good. You do not need our approval.

Its only a forum.

[THE BOUNCER]

No, just decided I had taken my body as far as I was prepared to go without taking what I considered risks.
I competed for around 8 years and wasn't going to be a world beater so why keep going?

do you still look like you did in that 47 pic from a year ago or you plump up a bit?

[THE BOUNCER]

 

You did say, "I heard you guys were brutal." So people are going to go to any length to make you look and feel like crap. You obviously knew it was GB. Calm down, nancy, it's not that serious.

You of course look good. You do not need our approval.

Its only a forum.

bro i am deadly serious.