Dieting on these foods.. can it be effecient?

[THE BOUNCER]

id say the guy should be on hormones for a year straight and just eat.and eat and train and eat.

at this point of development diet and calorie counting matters uhm...fuck all.at this point even slight bulking is perfectly justified.

i would agree but with the addition of maybe a little cardio. not only will it keep the extra fat off that he already has a bit of, it will keep the body more efficient so you can keep the cals up without storing it all as shit weight. something like 20 minutes 4-5 times per week walking pace.

[Hulkotron]

Do you lift OP?

[JediTerminator]

id say the guy should be on hormones for a year straight and just eat.and eat and train and eat.

at this point of development diet and calorie counting matters uhm...fuck all.at this point even slight bulking is perfectly justified.

what about with the cardio some ephedrine/caffeine?

i'll do that hormones and lifting for a year straight. new pic next year coming.

[njflex]

what about with the cardio some ephedrine/caffeine?

i'll do that hormones and lifting for a year straight. new pic next year coming.

on your mark,get ready,,set,,,go......

[JediTerminator]

Just had a can of chicken with 2 tbspn miracle whip. didn't taste so bad. it's like 24g protein

[arce1988]

  Hello.

[JediTerminator]

  Hello.

I don't undestand

[Teutonic Knight]

eggs
canned chicken
canned tuna
frozen beef burgers

white rice
white potato
oats
grits

broccoli
green beans

i can put in as much cardio as possible, as much weight training as possible. i wanna stop fucking about and get some real changes going

canned chicken & tuna = too much salt 
frozen burger =   

[Hulkotron]

"TootOnDick Knight" oh brother

[deceiver]

Gosh.

Go back to the gym. Eat, train, once you can deadlift 200kg, pull up 12 times and barbell row 80kg (with correct technique) then get back.

No, you don't have to "bulk up". Just train and get stronger, muscles will come with time. At this point you have less muscles than average soccer player, there's no way you're gonna look anywhere close to "good" whatever BF you might have.

I mean, with this amount of muscles you COULD look decent at low bf if you had frame. But you have shitty frame so forget about it.

[JediTerminator]

Gosh.

Go back to the gym. Eat, train, once you can deadlift 200kg, pull up 12 times and barbell row 80kg (with correct technique) then get back.

No, you don't have to "bulk up". Just train and get stronger, muscles will come with time. At this point you have less muscles than average soccer player, there's no way you're gonna look anywhere close to "good" whatever BF you might have.

I mean, with this amount of muscles you COULD look decent at low bf if you had frame. But you have shitty frame so forget about it.

for educational purpose what's wrong with my frame? i know i have narrow shoulders. no x frame?

[OTHstrong]

Everyone telling you train hard and eat for a year is correct to build muscle and a foundation before you diet and when you do diet on these foods;

Egg whites
Chicken breast
lean Turkey
Cod
Haddock
Salmon
Tuna
Talipia
Shrimp
Liver
Protein shake

Lean steak
Lean ground beef
Lean roast beef
Veal

Asparagus
Broccoli/purple sprouting broccoli
Cabbage
Cucumber
Onion
Spinach
Romaine lettuce
Tomatoes
Green Peppers

Celery
Carrots
Mushrooms
Peas

2 serving of complex carbs per day to start with from rice, yams, or oatmeal until you hit 9% then drop 1 serving of complex carbs per day

keep it simple, done,... this is how you get shredded.

[njflex]

Everyone telling you train hard and eat for a year is correct to build muscle and a foundation before you diet and when you do diet on these foods;

Egg whites
Chicken breast
lean Turkey
Cod
Haddock
Salmon
Tuna
Talipia
Shrimp
Liver
Protein shake

Lean steak
Lean ground beef
Lean roast beef
Veal

Asparagus
Broccoli/purple sprouting broccoli
Cabbage
Cucumber
Onion
Spinach
Romaine lettuce
Tomatoes
Green Peppers

Celery
Carrots
Mushrooms
Peas

2 serving of complex carbs per day to start with from rice, yams, or oatmeal until you hit 9% then drop 1 serving of complex carbs per day

keep it simple, done,... this is how you get shredded.

perfect,,,carbs i might take in a bit more for me,,i use brown rice,,oats and yams are my favorite diet or to get in good shape carb,,,