HGH: was your choice to use it worth it?

[bravo]

did you gain your expected goals wrt the cost benefit ratio? at what level can one start to expect "sides" to occur?

will you use it again? same increments or higher?

[bravo]

Wow.....surprised no one at all had any feedback on this potent agent....I take it that it is probably used primarily in the pro ranks and thus the lack of comments? Not really considering using it but am interested in any and all personal opinions by those who have indulged.

[Luv2Hurt]

Some guys explain some things in this thread B

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=46540.0

[bravo]

thanks, L2H; I was aware of that thread but was looking for additional specific individual results from those who may wish to share them with us.

[mem]

I am routinely the one to jump at this subject . . .

Love - it and have used it for past 5 years.
I think long term (lower dosage) use when
combined with other effective things has had
a remodeling effect on my entire physique.

I will PM, you later some aspects of treatment
and personal details. It IS icing on the cake . . .

W O R T H   I T  ? ? ? Hell yes - I  H A V E  the resources
worth the price benefit relative to price paid - HUGE!
a hard call for many people (as said before by others)
many other agents required for the
optimum long term end result.

I just don't particularly like the way IT makes me feel
while dosing, flu-like pain in my joints with malaise.

[Luv2Hurt]

I just don't particularly like the way IT makes me feel
while dosing, flu-like pain in my joints with malaise.

Boy that don't sound like sides I would like to live with, I do this crap to feel good.  malaise??  Have heard others talk of the joint pain.

Gear has it down side also.....i seem to suffer pretty significant depression post cycle....stuff turns me into a wreak...........geezzz maybe thats why just staying on may not be such a bad idea.

[XL™]

it depends on the brand of gh you use, some make you feel really good others dont.  depends on the person, find out what works for you.  switch brands if you feel like shit.

[DIVISION]

Gear has it down side also.....i seem to suffer pretty significant depression post cycle....stuff turns me into a wreak...........geezzz maybe thats why just staying on may not be such a bad idea.

That's my thinking also.........but I'm not ready to give up on cycles yet.

I'm not ready to stay on FOR LIFE......

I want to give cycling a fair chance, perhaps better PCT therapies will develop.......






DIV

[bigjohN79]

Had some short term use with GH years back, and to tell u the truth, I freaking loved it 4Iu's a day, nothing wild, and got great results, in size, but what I noticed the bigger difference was the drop in BF% even with a "mediocre" diet that I always use =)

[Beelzebub]

hasn't been worth it to me so far.  it's been ~15 weeks now at 4iu's on a 5/2 schedule and haven't noticed much difference than when i wasn't taking it.  only notable effect i can report is that a reoccuring pec injury i had seems to be healed and is stronger than ever.  and yes, i've been taking GH with an AAS cycle. 

[DIVISION]

Had some short term use with GH years back, and to tell u the truth, I freaking loved it 4Iu's a day, nothing wild, and got great results, in size, but what I noticed the bigger difference was the drop in BF% even with a "mediocre" diet that I always use =)

BigJohn eating sloppy?   

I'll have to witness this for myself.





DIV

[mem]

hasn't been worth it to me so far.  it's been ~15 weeks now at 4iu's on a 5/2 schedule and haven't noticed much difference than when i wasn't taking it.  only notable effect i can report is that a reoccuring pec injury i had seems to be healed and is stronger than ever.  and yes, i've been taking GH with an AAS cycle. 

One should give most supplements time in their systems, before judgement.
When switching protein powder brands or other supplements . . . (as example)
Almost in effect a couple blood and complete tissue *turnover* ranging 90 days.

BUT, with Hgh - I think that people should give it - more like 1 to 1 1/2 years
or much longer time frame to see potential *physique remodeling* abilities
of this remarkable substance, of course diet and training dependent . . .
2 or 3 effective cycles.

Had some short term use with GH years back, and to tell u the truth, I freaking loved it 4Iu's a day, nothing wild, and got great results, in size, but what I noticed the bigger difference was the drop in BF% even with a "mediocre" diet that I always use =)

I AGREE!

The (whole body) fat loss thing with each period of use,
over time has really tightend me up and added shape.
The biggest (in my case) is as bigjohN79 mentions. 
(I always stay [as a hardgainer] lean and tight)

The biggest struggles are the eating challenges of a business traveler - meals that are NOT self prepared
I DO eat smart but a pretty normal diet, I just enjoy eating too much to frikin starve myself (diet).

[muscle19]

see thats the reason why i want to try gh so bad, its the way it makes ur body look, thats the look i want, but im only 20 so i think i might give it some time, but at the same time, maybe it might make me grow alittle more (im only 5'4). yeah there are sides from it but like mem said it is a
"remarkable substance".


muscle

[Beelzebub]

One should give most supplements time in their systems, before judgement.
When switching protein powder brands or other supplements . . . (as example)
Almost in effect a couple blood and complete tissue *turnover* ranging 90 days.

BUT, with Hgh - I think that people should give it - more like 1 to 1 1/2 years
or much longer time frame to see potential *physique remodeling* abilities
of this remarkable substance, of course diet and training dependent . . .
2 or 3 effective cycles.

I AGREE!

The (whole body) fat loss thing with each period of use - over time has really tightend me up and added shape.
The biggest net benefit (in my case) is as bigjohN79 mentions.  (I always stay [hardgainer] lean and tight)

The biggest struggles are the eating challenges of a business traveler - meals that aren't NOT self prepared
I DO eat smart but a pretty normal diet, I just enjoy eating too much to frikin starve myself (diet).

1.5 years?  that could very well be the case before anything is noticed in terms of gains.  but that creates a rather large financial burden.  don't mistake me for whining, not the case, just stating facts.  also, at the age of 27, gh may not be the best option.  however, at 35+, i can see where it would be of a great benefit.  would you agree?

[mem]

1.5 years? that could very well be the case before anything is noticed in terms of gains. but that creates a rather large financial burden. don't mistake me for whining, not the case, just stating facts. also, at the age of 27, gh may not be the best option. however, at 35+, i can see where it would be of a great benefit. would you agree?

At 27 yo - hopefully Hgh is still abundant in your system.
I started (Hgh use) at 39 year old, with a great base.

Yes I am 45 years young.

I noticed more modest results right of the bat (months) but the
real payoff occured after more protracted periods of use.

Don't loose heart . . .

I don't think that the time frame that I mentioned is  t o t a l l y  whacked.
Just more improvement with each cycle (or progressive use) IS resulting in what
are unexpected results . . . almost unlayering of build?

Maintaining 6 pack ABS on *normal diet* year round.

Vascularity nearly throughout my entire legs. (like on arms)
The thighs, quads and glutes (vascularity) really popped this cycle,
with vanishing love handles - less than 1/2" pinch

I think that my use is or has been one (more) of long term approach
and do have the resources to continue with program . . .

[DIVISION]

BUT, with Hgh - I think that people should give it - more like 1 to 1 1/2 years
or much longer time frame to see potential *physique remodeling* abilities
of this remarkable substance

MeMo, do you have any idea how expensive that lil' 18 month test run of GH would cost?

Not all of us are well off like you, bro.

see thats the reason why i want to try gh so bad, its the way it makes ur body look, thats the look i want, but im only 20 so i think i might give it some time, but at the same time, maybe it might make me grow alittle more (im only 5'4). yeah there are sides from it but like mem said it is a
"remarkable substance".

Muscle19, you seem a bit too chipper about GH.

You are only 20, just a baby in this game.

GH won't give you any negligible benefits until you are in your 30's.

I would not even explore the possibility unless you are contemplating a career as a professional bodybuilder.  Failing that I think you need to leave it alone until you are in your 30's.

From what I have seen, GH in moderation is not worth the associative costs, especially.  For some it was a complete waste of money.  If it's not covered by insurance I don't see a reason to allocate money on GH when it could be used on AAS, Food, Rent, Utilities.......the necessities.   



DIV

[Razzor]

14k a year, with a cycle of 500mg of test a week, from a doc...and some anavar to boot thrown in all prescribed and from USA pharmacies...it's pricy but well worth it, in my opinion....

[DIVISION]

14k a year, with a cycle of 500mg of test a week, from a doc...and some anavar to boot thrown in all prescribed and from USA pharmacies...it's pricy but well worth it, in my opinion....

You could pay less from UG lab, but if you are getting it legally prescribed you can't beat that.

14G per year?

I'd rather spend it on other things........





DIV

[Luv2Hurt]

That is a lot of money for something you do as a hobby. 

I have to ask is there a medical reason you guys are on HGH?....Other than anti-aging? 

Muscle19, there is no way the GH will help you grow taller at this point.  Your 20, you have indulged in Test at supralogical levels.............your ellipsis are closed.  Those bones will not get any longer.   

[Beelzebub]

That is a lot of money for something you do as a hobby. 

I have to ask is there a medical reason you guys are on HGH?....Other than anti-aging? 

Muscle19, there is no way the GH will help you grow taller at this point.  Your 20, you have indulged in Test at supralogical levels.............your ellipsis are closed.  Those bones will not get any longer.   

main reason i tried it was to help heal a reoccuring pec injury, it worked for that.  i've got about 10 weeks left of this run and i'm getting off of GH for a few years.  at this point (and at my age) i don't believe it to be worth the money.  maybe when i'm 35 or so.  hell, by then, GH may be under a buck per iu.  the way labs are popping up now, there may be a generic for the generics in the works.

[mem]

MeMo, do you have any idea how expensive that lil' 18 month test run of GH would cost?

Not all of us are well off like you, bro.


DIV

In relative terms and in the bigger picture, it has been very reasonable cost/benefit wise . . .
I have spent around 1,000.00 a year averaged over the past 5 years of (modest) use.
Not including the additional AAS costs.

While we are speaking freely here (I do like that), I was seriously contemplating - Lyposuction
to rid the last little bits of adipose fat that - I could NOT diet off without loosing 10lbs of muscle
and rediculous (restrictive) dietary messures. These collective costs have actually been less than
any given lipo/surgury.

With the Hgh - it is as though I have the localized benefits of lipo in specific pinning of areas.
AND the added advantage of overall (remarkable) body (re)shaping - simply a better build.

PRICELESS!!!!

[BIGMIKE]

see thats the reason why i want to try gh so bad, its the way it makes ur body look, thats the look i want, but im only 20 so i think i might give it some time, but at the same time, maybe it might make me grow alittle more (im only 5'4). yeah there are sides from it but like mem said it is a
"remarkable substance".


muscle

USE THE EXTRA FUNDS AND BUY MORE GEAR BRO.TRUST ME,YOU DON'T NEED GROWTH.

[muscle19]

i know im too young for it and would not use it at this age ( not like i wouldnt want to) gh is something that i do want to explore but not at this point. now, i just want to build my body using various aas and to see how my body reacts to it. i know im a baby in this game still but it is a very fun game. i knew gh wouldnt amke me taller, just an idea. thanks guys


muscle

[mem]

USE THE EXTRA FUNDS AND BUY MORE GEAR BRO.TRUST ME,YOU DON'T NEED GROWTH.

A G R E E D !

Muscle what are you thinkin??

You and I spoke of this . . .

Build your base first dude.
You DO have a great build now!
Be patient and plan your growth.

ATB

[Borracho]

When switching protein powder brands or other supplements . . . (as example)
Almost in effect a couple blood and complete tissue *turnover* ranging 90 days.

 Do you have any links on further info about this subject?