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« on: April 19, 2013, 11:59:31 AM »

something going on

either my receptors are shot

or i'm going crazy
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2013, 12:01:27 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2013, 12:06:53 PM »

200mg a week isn't going to get you far son
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2013, 12:06:57 PM »

something going on

either my receptors are shot

or i'm going crazy

I'm leaning towards number two.
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2013, 12:11:26 PM »

something going on

either my receptors are shot

or i'm going crazy
unlucky bro, and before you even looked like you trained
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2013, 12:12:32 PM »

unlucky bro, and before you even looked like you trained
no worries, once i go off i will look the same as before in a couple of weeks
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2013, 12:13:55 PM »

no worries, once i go off i will look the same as before in a couple of weeks

double the dose throw in some slin and hgh and start stealing off your gf to buy supplements
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2013, 12:26:30 PM »

no worries, once i go off i will look the same as before in a couple of weeks
i wouldnt worry, your receptors dont get blown from a small dose on your first cycle, sounds like you have the steroid paranoia
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2013, 12:28:53 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2013, 12:31:07 PM »

something going on

either my receptors are shot

or i'm going crazy

Congrats
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2013, 04:00:51 PM »

Probably just a non responder. Also the older you are the less you can expect to gain.
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2013, 04:05:37 PM »

There's no such thing as receptor downregulation.

The longer you use THE BETTER you respond.
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2013, 04:07:16 PM »

There's no such thing as receptor downregulation.

The longer you use THE BETTER you respond.

I agree with first part, but how does it IMPROVE?? Just slow hyperplasia over time from lots of AAS?
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2013, 04:28:43 PM »

I agree with first part, but how does it IMPROVE?? Just slow hyperplasia over time from lots of AAS?

There's astounding number of anecdotal evidence, just around people who train and take juice for over 10 years. Their claims:
 - with time they got more and more immune to acne, bloat
 - they need less to maintain what they gained or get back to shape

Also please notice that despite gymrat broscience, roid abusers return back to shape from being skinnyfat in NO TIME. On the contrary to natural lifters, for them it takes even a year to get back to what they used to be whereas roid users get back to 90% within 8-10 weeks of mild cycle.

I train in oldest gym in Cracow and it has many oldtimers. They drink and take narcotics for half a year and then get back to shape in 10 weeks. Some fucking incredible transformations I've seen.

I've seen studies that claimed number of AR or its sensitivity (dunno exactly which one) increases over time.
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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2013, 07:23:24 PM »

There's astounding number of anecdotal evidence, just around people who train and take juice for over 10 years. Their claims:
 - with time they got more and more immune to acne, bloat
 - they need less to maintain what they gained or get back to shape

Also please notice that despite gymrat broscience, roid abusers return back to shape from being skinnyfat in NO TIME. On the contrary to natural lifters, for them it takes even a year to get back to what they used to be whereas roid users get back to 90% within 8-10 weeks of mild cycle.

I train in oldest gym in Cracow and it has many oldtimers. They drink and take narcotics for half a year and then get back to shape in 10 weeks. Some fucking incredible transformations I've seen.

I've seen studies that claimed number of AR or its sensitivity (dunno exactly which one) increases over time.
Test use to bloat me something fierce unless it was prop. Now I can take any test and go as high as 750mgs with no bloat at all
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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2013, 07:23:55 PM »

200mg a week isn't going to get you far son
Exactly. That's natty lol
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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2013, 11:14:12 PM »

There's astounding number of anecdotal evidence, just around people who train and take juice for over 10 years. Their claims:
 - with time they got more and more immune to acne, bloat
 - they need less to maintain what they gained or get back to shape

Also please notice that despite gymrat broscience, roid abusers return back to shape from being skinnyfat in NO TIME. On the contrary to natural lifters, for them it takes even a year to get back to what they used to be whereas roid users get back to 90% within 8-10 weeks of mild cycle.

I train in oldest gym in Cracow and it has many oldtimers. They drink and take narcotics for half a year and then get back to shape in 10 weeks. Some fucking incredible transformations I've seen.

I've seen studies that claimed number of AR or its sensitivity (dunno exactly which one) increases over time.

Very interesting, good post brah
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2013, 11:24:32 PM »

receptor downregulation is bull, you're either not training hard enough or you're not eating enough.
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« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2013, 02:57:50 AM »

receptor downregulation is bull, you're either not training hard enough or you're not eating enough.


or using underdosed crappy ug gear.
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« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2013, 10:57:24 AM »

200mg a week isn't going to get you far son
my ugl test enanthate is 300mg/ml

i take 1ml every sunday while being depressed about the next work week to come
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« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2013, 07:00:00 AM »

So take 600mg and get excited about next week.  I won a big show in August 2009, cycled off in Sept got back on about a gram a week sinc Dec 24, 2009 got my levels checked at the VA 7,890- yes that is on the 250-800 being "normal" test.  My HDL is low 22 other than that my blood is all consider overtly healthy.  It'll b he'll later trying to have kids but who cares that's then.  And like deceiver said: aside from weighing 285 at 5'6 lol no sides no gut no acne fuck at least 3 times a week with long time girlfriend(if I was single it'd prolly be 8-10 a week) AND both gpas as well as dad r bald my hairline is what it is when I joined the USMC, at 17 years old.
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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2013, 11:41:53 PM »

There's astounding number of anecdotal evidence, just around people who train and take juice for over 10 years. Their claims:
 - with time they got more and more immune to acne, bloat
 - they need less to maintain what they gained or get back to shape

Also please notice that despite gymrat broscience, roid abusers return back to shape from being skinnyfat in NO TIME. On the contrary to natural lifters, for them it takes even a year to get back to what they used to be whereas roid users get back to 90% within 8-10 weeks of mild cycle.

I train in oldest gym in Cracow and it has many oldtimers. They drink and take narcotics for half a year and then get back to shape in 10 weeks. Some fucking incredible transformations I've seen.

I've seen studies that claimed number of AR or its sensitivity (dunno exactly which one) increases over time.

Throwing out some bro-science here but I think the body reacts from long-term steroid use by creating more androgen receptors throughout the skeletal muscle system. And so you react to an even greater degree with anything effecting testosterone levels, be it steroids or natty lifting, than you will have if you had never used them.

I don't know through what mechanism this is possible; heavy-lifting in the legs I believe releases GH but not enough to account for the strong anecdotal evidence towards this phenomenon.
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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2013, 01:29:21 PM »

Your first cycle should be dosed like around 600mg a week to any significant gaines most likely like 10-20 pounds depends on training, food ect.
After that most gear has to be in conjunction with something else like test. and dbol ect its a synergistic effect...  so it helps if you have access to different stuff but always use a test. as a base...


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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2013, 01:52:44 PM »

Your first cycle should be dosed like around 600mg a week to any significant gaines most likely like 10-20 pounds depends on training, food ect.
After that most gear has to be in conjunction with something else like test. and dbol ect its a synergistic effect...  so it helps if you have access to different stuff but always use a test. as a base...



but i did gain like 20lbs so far.....
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