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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2013, 05:24:25 AM »

copied from another forum:
Study shows the more devout a Muslim the more violent he becomes, and the more devout a Christian, the more peaceful he becomes

In this study and presentation shown in the video, it was discovered that the more devout a Muslim becomes, the more violent he becomes.

The opposite, was discovered with Christians. That the more devout a Christian, the more peaceful he becomes.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBcomAcJhtQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBcomAcJhtQ</a>

Why is this?

A devout Muslim, will more closely follow the examples of their prophet Muhammad. And a devout Christian, will more closely follow the examples of Jesus.

Muhammad vs Jesus

Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam.
(Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38)

Said God loves everyone.
(John 3:16)

"I have been commanded to fight
against people till they testify that there
is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad
is the messenger of Allah"
(Muslim 1:33)

"He who lives by the sword
will die by the sword."
(Matthew 26:52)

Stoned women for adultery.
(Muslim 4206)

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
(John 8:7)

Permitted stealing from unbelievers.
(Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)

"Thou shalt not steal."
(Matthew 19:18)

Permitted lying.
(Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)

"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
(Matthew 19:18)

Owned and traded slaves.
(Sahih Muslim 3901)

Neither owned nor traded slaves.

Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys.
(Sahih Muslim 4390)

Beheaded no one.

Murdered those who insulted him.
(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)

Preached forgiveness.
(Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38)

"If then anyone transgresses
the prohibition against you,
Transgress ye likewise against him"
(Qur'an 2:194)

"If someone strikes you on the right
cheek, turn to him the other also."
(Matthew 5:39)

Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold.
(Muslim 4645)

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for
they will be called Sons of God"
(Matthew 5:9)

Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves.
(Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50)

Was celibate.

Slept with a 9-year-old child.
(Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)

Did not have sex with children.

Ordered the murder of women.
(Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)

Never harmed a woman.

"O you who believe! Fight those of the
unbelievers who are near to you
and let them find in you hardness."
(Qur'an 9:123)

"Blessed are the meek, for
they shall inherit the earth."
(Matthew 5:5)

Ordered 65 military campaigns
and raids in his last 10 years.
(Ibn Ishaq )

Ordered no military campaigns, nor
offered any approval of war or violence.

Killed captives taken in battle.
(Ibn Ishaq 451)

Never took captives.
Never killed anyone.

Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
(Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24)

Never encouraged rape.
Never enslaved women.

Demanded captured slaves and
a fifth of all other loot taken in war.
(Qur'an 8:41)

"The Son of Man came not
to be served, but to serve."
(Matthew 20:28)

Was never tortured, but tortured others.
(Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)

Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.

"And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah"
(Qur'an 8:39)

"Love your enemies and pray
for those who persecute you"
(Matthew 5:44)

Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man
(al-Tabari 1440)

Healed a blind man
(Mark 8:28)

Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit
from which he preached Islam.
(Bukhari 47:743)

Washed his disciples feet.
(John 13:5)

What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause"
(Muslim 1:149)

What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself."
(Matthew 22:34-40)

Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship
(Qur'an 4:102)

Chastised anyone attempting
to defend him with force.
(John 18:10-12)

Died fat and wealthy from what was
taken from others in war or
demanded from others in tribute.

Demanded nothing for himself.
Died without possessions.

Advocated crucifying others.
(Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)

Was crucified himself.

According to his followers:
Had others give their lives for him.
(Sahih Muslim 4413)

According to his followers:
Gave his life for others.
(John 18:11 and elsewhere)

Good thread, good thread.   Smiley
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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2013, 05:51:57 AM »

It's a cult hell bent on pushing their agenda.
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« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2013, 06:11:30 AM »

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« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2013, 11:49:44 AM »

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« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2013, 07:30:50 PM »

The more corrupt a people, the more they are violent

It is a fairly retarded idea to have women in the military, and you would have to wonder whether any women who would join the US military is mentally ill or totally ignorant or a complete fool. However, 71 rapes per day is an indictment on US culture. Sick! THese are not the people we should be emulating. People must be warned against their decadent corrupting culture.
 
Sex assualt charges for top anti-sex assault officer
 
Washington: The US Air Force's top officer for sexual-assault prevention has been arrested on charges of sexual battery, prompting his removal from the post even as the Pentagon prepares to report as many as 26,000 attacks last year.
 
Lieutenant Colonel Jeffrey Krusinski, 41, was arrested on May 5 in the Washington suburb of Arlington, Virginia, where he allegedly "approached a female victim in a parking lot and grabbed her breasts and buttocks," according to an Arlington County police report. Efforts to locate Mr Krusinski for comment weren't successful.
 
The arrest provides "dramatic evidence of the need for the Department of Defence to act swiftly and decisively to address the plague of sexual assaults in the military," Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin, a Michigan Democrat, said Tuesday at a hearing in Washington.
 
The Defence Department plans to release its annual report on sexual assaults, an event that each year prompts criticism from lawmakers and victims' advocacy groups and pledges by the Pentagon to do better.
 
The study will show 3374 reported cases of assault in 2012, a 5.7 percent increase from the previous year, according to a statement from Senators Patty Murray, a Washington Democrat, and Kelly Ayotte, a New Hampshire Republican.
 
Such reported assaults are dwarfed by the number of cases that go unreported. Victims have said they're afraid of coming forward, partly because they feared a risk to their career.
 
The Pentagon has previously estimated 19,000 such incidents occur each year in the military, based on anonymous surveys of the active-duty force. Today's report estimates that as many as 26,000 assaults occurred last year, an average of 71 incidents per day, according to the senators.
 
Senators Ayotte and Murray introduced legislation Tuesdayt that they said would make it easier to prosecute assault cases. It includes a procedure already used by the Air Force to provide a Special Victims' Counsel who can assist assault victims throughout the legal process.
 
Senator Levin, the committee chairman, said he plans to include legislation on sexual assault as part of this year's annual defence authorisation bill, as early as next month.
 
Responding to Mr Krusinski's arrest, Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel "expressed outrage and disgust over the troubling allegations and emphasised that this matter will be dealt with swiftly and decisively," George Little, a Pentagon spokesman, said in a statement.
 
Mr Hagel, who discussed the arrest Monday with Air Force Secretary Michael Donley, will soon announce the "next steps in our ongoing effort to combat this vile crime," according to Mr Little.
 
Mr Krusinski, who had served as chief of the Air Force's Sexual Assault Prevention and Response branch since February, was removed from the job pending an investigation, according to an Air Force statement. He was released after posting a $US5000 bond, according to Dustin Sternbeck, an Arlington County police spokesman.
 
"It is unacceptable that this occurs anywhere at any time in our Air Force and we will not quit working on this problem," General Mark Welsh, the Air Force chief of staff, said today at Levin's hearing.
 
Nancy Parrish, president of Protect Our Defenders, a victim-support group, said in a statement that Mr Krusinski's arrest "is one more example on a long list of how fundamentally broken the military justice system and culture are."
 
The Air Force is still reeling from a scandal in which at least five military instructors were convicted of sexual assaults or unprofessional relationships with trainees or students at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas.
 
An investigation of the Lackland case identified 23 alleged offenders and 48 alleged victims.
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« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2013, 07:34:53 PM »


History shows Jews and Christians killed more Muslims than Muslims killed Jews and Christians

I must begin by saying I am among those who firmly believe that any planned killing by a nation state or political group is motivated not by religion, but by power politics.
 
Given this qualification, historical facts tell us that Jews and Christians have, tragically, killed many more Muslims than the other way around. Now this assertion may seem to go against the current tide of public opinion, but a little basic research will prove the point.
 
Let us start with some facts related to the Jewish people, in particular those who espouse Zionism. Zionism is a political ideology based on carving out a Jews-only nation state in Palestine using any means necessary, including many forms of violence. During the 1800s, Zionism was supported by about 10% of Jews; today, however, this ideology is upheld by some 90% of Jews worldwide.
 
Despite the strong objection of Arab natives, boatloads of European Jewish immigrants arrived to settle in historic Palestinian lands. Completely disregarding the existing indigenous populations, these Jewish newcomers were supplied with military-style arms and equipment to displace the natives by force. By 1948, they had established their exclusive nation state -- but only after killing some 15,000 native Palestinians, mostly Muslims.
 
In 1956 Israel, along with Britain and France, attacked Egypt. More than 3,000 Egyptians -- again, mostly Muslims -- were killed. Then in 1967 (the infamous Six-Day War) another 20,000 Arabs -- Egyptians, Syrians and Palestinians, mostly Muslims -- were killed by Israel.
 
In 1973 Israel killed more than 18,000 Arabs in Egypt and Syria and since then, the bloodbath has continued, decade after decade. During the past 20 years more than 5,000 Muslims have died violently in Israel proper, in the Occupied Palestinian West Bank, in Gaza and in Lebanon (remember Qana?). As this is being written, Israel has been shelling northern Gaza every day.
 
All this killing adds up to one horrific thing -- a long-term planned ethnic cleansing of all Palestinians (Christian and Muslim) in order to maintain the created Jewish nation state of Israel. In the process, more than 60,000 Muslims have lost their lives, as compared to less than 10,000 Jews.
 
Before the Zionists arbitrarily chose Palestine, Jews living in Arab and the Muslim countries enjoyed not only fair humane treatment, but in fact acquired considerable wealth and prestige; many of them even held high government positions. When Jews were persecuted during the Spanish Inquisition sponsored by the Christian Church, they found new homes in Turkey and North Africa, where Muslims accepted them. And during the Russian pogroms, the Muslims of Central Asian countries again took in and protected the persecuted Jewish refugees.
 
But when the Jews built their own nation state, they did not return the good deeds done on their behalf by Muslims through the ages. Instead, they subjected Palestinians to cruel and inhumane treatment, as well as oppressing the native populations of Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Syria, Tunisia, and now Iraq and Iran, through direct or indirect aggression. So much for paying back a favour.
 
Now, Muslims feel they are paying the heavy price of Western guilt over Europe's past mistreatment of Jews. Not even one UN statement against Israeli aggression has been allowed to pass!
 
For more than half a century, Palestinians have endured, and still endure, one of the most brutal racist occupation forces in modern history. Recent events following the free democratic election of a Hamas government in the West Bank have shown just how ruthless and intolerant this racist Israeli occupation is. The Knesset has held back the transfer of legitimate Palestinian taxes, refusing to give the new government its own money, and thereby starving the native population.
 
The Apartheid security wall, built to "protect" Jewish settlements, has been forcibly constructed on expropriated West Bank Palestinian lands, making life hell-on-earth for local natives who are cut off from their farms, market gardens, olive orchards, schools, jobs, etc. Instead of ending the occupation, Israel is using its military might (supported by the West) to even further suppress the Palestinians. All this has been inflicted with total disregard for the values of justice and peace, as taught by all mainstream religions -- including Judaism.
 
As for Christians killing Muslims, that started back in the Middle Ages with the Crusades, followed by the Spanish Inquisition, and the colonial era in which European imperial powers occupied Muslim lands from Indonesia to Morocco, including India and the Middle East. More recently, Iraq and Afghanistan have been occupied by American-led coalitions that still promote so-called Christian values. Millions more Arabs and Muslims have been killed.
 
If Jews, Christians and Muslims were adherents of any other religion the results would have been the same, for all three Abrahamic peoples "of the Book" have been detoured from their faith by the worst excesses of political power-grabbing and war-mongering. Thus, the tragic political results and the mass killings would have been much the same. And this explains why today many Jews try to smear Islam and bash Muslims, not only Palestinians. Such acts have nothing to do with religion, but everything to do with a group of people who were, and are, determined to establish a nation state by any means necessary, regardless of the cost to those who get in their way.
 
Could these same three religions help to solve the ongoing conflict? Absolutely, yes -- but the key is to work harder than ever to bring about peace through justice. And the responsibility for creating a climate of positive options belongs to the most powerful side in any conflict the aggressor.
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« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2013, 08:15:09 PM »

Muslims on getbig should really follow the lead of cool headed intelligent guys like Sherief Shalaby.
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« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2013, 10:56:11 PM »

Muslims on getbig should really follow the lead of cool headed intelligent guys like Sherief Shalaby.

He is cool headed cause he doesnt have to deal with maniacs like you.
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« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2013, 01:26:12 AM »

Funny how getbig Muslims rarely source their material.    Smiley
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« Reply #34 on: May 08, 2013, 02:02:32 AM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZYD1el_Jfg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZYD1el_Jfg</a>



Great video. Always cool to listen to Joe's take on stuff.

He gets way out there with some of the things he says but for the mos part he is telling the truth.
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« Reply #35 on: May 08, 2013, 02:11:16 AM »

How on Earth anyone can participate in this evil medieval religion called Islam is beyond me.  Now they went to hang the atheists.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uuTqYCKte8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uuTqYCKte8</a>

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« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2013, 03:55:21 AM »

How on Earth can a person beleive in a religion who participate in the killing of prophets of God is beyond me.

Prophet Mohamed-killed by a jew

Prophet jesus killed by his own people.

Prophet zakariah-killed by his own flock

And countless prophets murdered for informing the people to the right path.


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You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.
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« Reply #37 on: May 08, 2013, 05:27:14 AM »

Antisemitic post reported.
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« Reply #38 on: May 08, 2013, 05:32:26 AM »

LOL time to go check email for reported posts.
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« Reply #39 on: May 08, 2013, 05:33:24 AM »

History shows Jews and Christians killed more Muslims than Muslims killed Jews and Christians

I must begin by saying I am among those who firmly believe that any planned killing by a nation state or political group is motivated not by religion, but by power politics.
 
Given this qualification, historical facts tell us that Jews and Christians have, tragically, killed many more Muslims than the other way around. Now this assertion may seem to go against the current tide of public opinion, but a little basic research will prove the point.
 
Let us start with some facts related to the Jewish people, in particular those who espouse Zionism. Zionism is a political ideology based on carving out a Jews-only nation state in Palestine using any means necessary, including many forms of violence. During the 1800s, Zionism was supported by about 10% of Jews; today, however, this ideology is upheld by some 90% of Jews worldwide.
 
Despite the strong objection of Arab natives, boatloads of European Jewish immigrants arrived to settle in historic Palestinian lands. Completely disregarding the existing indigenous populations, these Jewish newcomers were supplied with military-style arms and equipment to displace the natives by force. By 1948, they had established their exclusive nation state -- but only after killing some 15,000 native Palestinians, mostly Muslims.
 
In 1956 Israel, along with Britain and France, attacked Egypt. More than 3,000 Egyptians -- again, mostly Muslims -- were killed. Then in 1967 (the infamous Six-Day War) another 20,000 Arabs -- Egyptians, Syrians and Palestinians, mostly Muslims -- were killed by Israel.
 
In 1973 Israel killed more than 18,000 Arabs in Egypt and Syria and since then, the bloodbath has continued, decade after decade. During the past 20 years more than 5,000 Muslims have died violently in Israel proper, in the Occupied Palestinian West Bank, in Gaza and in Lebanon (remember Qana?). As this is being written, Israel has been shelling northern Gaza every day.
 
All this killing adds up to one horrific thing -- a long-term planned ethnic cleansing of all Palestinians (Christian and Muslim) in order to maintain the created Jewish nation state of Israel. In the process, more than 60,000 Muslims have lost their lives, as compared to less than 10,000 Jews.
 
Before the Zionists arbitrarily chose Palestine, Jews living in Arab and the Muslim countries enjoyed not only fair humane treatment, but in fact acquired considerable wealth and prestige; many of them even held high government positions. When Jews were persecuted during the Spanish Inquisition sponsored by the Christian Church, they found new homes in Turkey and North Africa, where Muslims accepted them. And during the Russian pogroms, the Muslims of Central Asian countries again took in and protected the persecuted Jewish refugees.
 
But when the Jews built their own nation state, they did not return the good deeds done on their behalf by Muslims through the ages. Instead, they subjected Palestinians to cruel and inhumane treatment, as well as oppressing the native populations of Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Syria, Tunisia, and now Iraq and Iran, through direct or indirect aggression. So much for paying back a favour.
 
Now, Muslims feel they are paying the heavy price of Western guilt over Europe's past mistreatment of Jews. Not even one UN statement against Israeli aggression has been allowed to pass!
 
For more than half a century, Palestinians have endured, and still endure, one of the most brutal racist occupation forces in modern history. Recent events following the free democratic election of a Hamas government in the West Bank have shown just how ruthless and intolerant this racist Israeli occupation is. The Knesset has held back the transfer of legitimate Palestinian taxes, refusing to give the new government its own money, and thereby starving the native population.
 
The Apartheid security wall, built to "protect" Jewish settlements, has been forcibly constructed on expropriated West Bank Palestinian lands, making life hell-on-earth for local natives who are cut off from their farms, market gardens, olive orchards, schools, jobs, etc. Instead of ending the occupation, Israel is using its military might (supported by the West) to even further suppress the Palestinians. All this has been inflicted with total disregard for the values of justice and peace, as taught by all mainstream religions -- including Judaism.
 
As for Christians killing Muslims, that started back in the Middle Ages with the Crusades, followed by the Spanish Inquisition, and the colonial era in which European imperial powers occupied Muslim lands from Indonesia to Morocco, including India and the Middle East. More recently, Iraq and Afghanistan have been occupied by American-led coalitions that still promote so-called Christian values. Millions more Arabs and Muslims have been killed.
 
If Jews, Christians and Muslims were adherents of any other religion the results would have been the same, for all three Abrahamic peoples "of the Book" have been detoured from their faith by the worst excesses of political power-grabbing and war-mongering. Thus, the tragic political results and the mass killings would have been much the same. And this explains why today many Jews try to smear Islam and bash Muslims, not only Palestinians. Such acts have nothing to do with religion, but everything to do with a group of people who were, and are, determined to establish a nation state by any means necessary, regardless of the cost to those who get in their way.
 
Could these same three religions help to solve the ongoing conflict? Absolutely, yes -- but the key is to work harder than ever to bring about peace through justice. And the responsibility for creating a climate of positive options belongs to the most powerful side in any conflict the aggressor.



Convenient you left out Muslim killing Muslim you ass clown.
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« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2013, 09:53:52 AM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr-lJK494qY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr-lJK494qY</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C8V7hqv3AE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C8V7hqv3AE</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HboAii4jILM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HboAii4jILM</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo35l6mhosk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo35l6mhosk</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5oQFitU5H0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5oQFitU5H0</a>

there ya go, listen and educate youself. Ignorance is deadly, too bad most here talk much listen/read little.
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« Reply #41 on: July 28, 2013, 02:30:00 AM »

I always wanted to see a moderate Islam and progression into the modern world.
 Islam was always in my heart and I would be lying if I said there's still nothing left in my heart.
I left because of all these radicals and people who declare that there's no moderation here.
Ahmed was the straw that broke the camels back. I mean at times I think ahmed should be commited and put in the loony bin.
Ahmed helped me come to my final decision to leave Islam.
But I was still on the fence about it. I would have never jumped. I needed a push. Then low and behold... Jesus came to me from all directions. I knew right then and there that I was a born again Christian. And whenever a doubt crosses my mind... I read something that tells me I made the right choice. I just read that there's a revival in Islam and Jesus is coming to people in dreams. This is happening because Jesus walks the Earth and to reject him would be foolish.
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« Reply #42 on: July 28, 2013, 02:42:44 AM »


Convenient you left out Muslim killing Muslim you ass clown.
to the guy who left out muslims killing muslims: ignorance... Pure ignorance. Sadam hussain has the record for killing most muslims by one person as far as I know.
No one has killed more muslims than other muslims. No one kills more muslims than muslims now or then.
Pakistan killed how many bangali people in the 1970's... 5 million or more? And the occupying army used rape as a tactic. They were islamist. I know this because my g.f. Is Bangali and they still hold a grudge with Pakistan Sad
The list of muslim killing muslim is endless and would go on forever. On an ignorant person is not aware of all the conflict and I think you to be smater than that /:
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« Reply #43 on: July 28, 2013, 11:35:42 AM »

How on Earth can a person beleive in a religion who participate in the killing of prophets of God is beyond me.

Prophet Mohamed-killed by a jew

Prophet jesus killed by his own people.

Prophet zakariah-killed by his own flock

And countless prophets murdered for informing the people to the right path.


Matthew 23

You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.
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« Reply #44 on: July 28, 2013, 11:38:31 AM »

How on Earth can a person beleive in a religion who participate in the killing of prophets of God is beyond me.

Prophet Mohamed-killed by a jew

Prophet jesus killed by his own people.

Prophet zakariah-killed by his own flock

And countless prophets murdered for informing the people to the right path.


Matthew 23

You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.
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