
Excellent picture by Arce..
Let's be fair though, it's hard to believe that Dave would be so inclined to throw stones while living in a glass house.
Dave was renowned in the New York City area for selling fake Growth Hormone to both friends and local IFBB and NPC competitors. I have many friends that worked out at Steel Gym that fell victim to his bunk products. He also isn't a stranger to selling garbage products by way of his own line of supplement line.
So regarding him slinging shit, it seems a little odd since he has enough skeletons in his closet.
ether, if you would be so kind, please post a link to said accusations in order to verify those comments. I've spoken to Dave before and he has never badmouthed Victor in front of me. Maybe it's because I am friends with Victor or maybe it's because he was civil towards him in the past. Either way, a link showing said comments would be helpful.
Regarding Victor... I know Victor personally. I was there on that very night when Victor's gym closed down. I was there when one of his best friends (Rudy) got the call to turn off the music and pull down the gates on that gym. I saw the people rushed out of the gym and I spoke for a few hours afterwards with his other close friend (Dean) about the entire incident and it was certainly not a classy or respectable move.
That said, what
NONE of you know is that Victor was
NOT the sole owner of that gym. There was another owner, a female (who was his girlfriend at the time). I won't say her name out of respect for both Victor and the young lady. Most of the financial decisions that took place at the gym fell under her command. Victor wanted to offer clients a great gym with all the amenities that a big chain could offer, but at a substantial discounted rate. His partner felt that he did not understand the dynamics of owning a business like that of a gym. Their landlord was also very pushy and kept raising their rent every 6-months and demanded many things, of the which Victor felt were uncalled for.
Push came to shove and Victor (mainly under the guidance of his business partner/co-owner) had no choice but to close shop, due to the ever-increasing rent, hassle with the landlord and profit figures which showed that they would hit the red before year's end.
I do
NOT agree with members having paid for a 6-12 month membership up to the last week before closing. I think that was
NOT classy and also very unprofessional. Remember though, Victor was offering yearly gym memberships at $125. One-hundred-and-twenty-five dollars for an entire year!! The average New York Sport's club charges you $80 monthly with an annual contract and an initiation fee (typically around $50 or more), Victor did not demand contracts (or you would have had a mob of former members suing him left and right). So, if he made out with any member's money, it was around the tune of a month's worth per every member that had signed up in that last month. Still, it is wrong, that was his mistake and he has suffered for it substantially.
In my talks with him further down the road, he had wished he could have given the money back to the members.
I'd like to hear Melvin Goodrum's take on the Muscle Maker grill, as I was also around when he ventured into that business and know pretty well what went down, but I am assuming Melvin has some insider information that he wouldn't mind sharing with us and, due to such, I won't spoil it...
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