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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #300 on: December 02, 2014, 05:10:20 PM »
He's much smarter than Trump, sans the net worth. 

not much.

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #301 on: December 02, 2014, 05:12:49 PM »
not much.

I guess it depends on the context, but in terms of overall intelligence, not close.  If we're talking about being a hustler and a good businessman, then easily Trump. 

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #302 on: December 02, 2014, 05:23:31 PM »
trump is a very smart man.  Egomaniac, sure.  Pompous and obnoxious, definitely.  But when people kiss your ass for 40+ years straight, you start to believe it.   Like Romney with "Who let the dogs out", singing to urban youth - nobody ever told him "Mitt, you just don't do shit like that!"  When he sang that shit in the boardroom, there were probably ten yes men laughing along. 

Trump is very smart.  Cruz is very smart.  Different areas of expertise, both capable of running a nation.   Trump is a lifetime lib that turned conservative when convenient.  Cruz is a lifetime conservative.

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #303 on: December 16, 2014, 12:33:36 PM »
He has a lot of work to do if he wants to be president.  

George Will: Ted Cruz Is ‘Completely Indifferent To The Fact That Politics Is A Team Sport’ [VIDEO]
12/15/2014

One day after saying Elizabeth Warren and Ted Cruz had no idea “what they were trying to accomplish,” syndicated columnist George Will said Monday on “Special Report” the pair have two “exceedingly strange careers underway.” (RELATED: George Will On Warren, Cruz: ‘No One Knows What They Were Trying To Accomplish’)

Will told Fox News’ Doug McKelway that Cruz is “indifferent” to politics being a “team sport,” adding further that there hasn’t been “a more peculiar career” in the Senate than the one Cruz is currently enjoying.

The conservative columnist also said while Democrats are “bemused” by his antics, he is “loathed” within the GOP caucus, while also telling McKelway if Cruz doesn’t get the GOP nomination in 2016, assuming he runs for it, his return to Washington will be “awkward.”

WILL: We have two exceedingly strange careers under way here. Elizabeth Warren, who has won one election, a Democrat in Massachusetts, not heavy lifting, says that she’s really worried about risk. And she’s focused on some minor matter about derivatives and banks. Yet, a few days ago, Fannie [Mae] and Freddie [Mac] announced they now are going to have mortgages for low-income people with 3 percent down. This is walking right down the same path that the housing crisis that Fannie and Freddie gave us that catalyzed the recession.

Then we have Ted Cruz. There have been 1,957 senators in the history of this country and I can’t imagine there’s been a more peculiar career than the one he’s having right now. He is completely indifferent to the fact that politics is a team sport. Juan’s absolutely right, Democrats are more bemused by him. He is frankly loathed within the Republican caucus. If he seeks the Republican nomination and doesn’t get it, then what? He has to come back here? That’s awkward.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/15/george-will-ted-cruz-is-completely-indifferent-to-the-fact-that-politics-is-a-team-sport-video/

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #304 on: December 16, 2014, 06:13:37 PM »
He has a lot of work to do if he wants to be president. 

George Will: Ted Cruz Is ‘Completely Indifferent To The Fact That Politics Is A Team Sport’ [VIDEO]
12/15/2014

WOAH.... you're quoting GEORGE WILL when shitting all over Cruz?   Look, Cruz is a great choice and VERY representative of the the conservative BASE of the republican party.   

And Will?   WTF are you doing citing HIM as being in touch with what GOP voters want?

GW?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Will

anti-death penalty - GOP primary audiences CHEERED Perry for executing people. 

Will supports obama's war policy, very unpopular with repubs.

Will was a "harvard" college professor = lib.

Will flipflopped on Iraq.

Will shit all over Newt in 2012. 
Will shit all over Ann Coulter in 2013.

Will admitted he's a libertarian in 2013.
Will lied about offshore drilling in 2008.
Will lied about flobal warming in 2009.

Will is an athiest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Will


SORRY, but I don't think George Will speaks for most repubs, at all.  Maybe liberals.

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #305 on: December 16, 2014, 06:14:38 PM »
WOAH.... you're quoting GEORGE WILL when shitting all over Cruz?   Look, Cruz is a great choice and VERY representative of the the conservative BASE of the republican party.   

And Will?   WTF are you doing citing HIM as being in touch with what GOP voters want?

GW?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Will

anti-death penalty - GOP primary audiences CHEERED Perry for executing people. 

Will supports obama's war policy, very unpopular with repubs.

Will was a "harvard" college professor = lib.

Will flipflopped on Iraq.

Will shit all over Newt in 2012. 
Will shit all over Ann Coulter in 2013.

Will admitted he's a libertarian in 2013.
Will lied about offshore drilling in 2008.
Will lied about flobal warming in 2009.

Will is an athiest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Will


SORRY, but I don't think George Will speaks for most repubs, at all.  Maybe liberals.

Shut up troll.

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #306 on: December 16, 2014, 06:28:12 PM »
Shut up troll.

When you respond like this, everyone here realizes "wow, 240 showed Will to be an atheist lib anti-drilling, harvard professor... and BB had zero response..."

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #307 on: December 16, 2014, 06:54:59 PM »
When you respond like this, everyone here realizes "wow, 240 showed Will to be an atheist lib anti-drilling, harvard professor... and BB had zero response..."

No.  It's shorthand for that was an incredibly stupid comparison that I'm not going to waste my time dismantling, made by Obama's single biggest cheerleader on this board, which makes the comment utterly disingenuous.

Much easier to just say "shut up troll." 

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #308 on: December 16, 2014, 07:43:25 PM »
No.  It's shorthand for that was an incredibly stupid comparison that I'm not going to waste my time dismantling, made by Obama's single biggest cheerleader on this board, which makes the comment utterly disingenuous.

Much easier to just say "shut up troll." 

Just stop pretending that liberal-learning, athiest, harvard-professor GWill knows what conservatives truly want.

He doesn't.  He has very little in common with conservatives.  Quoting him evaluating voters on Cruz?  That's like quoting Roseanne Barr on what fitness people like lol.

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #309 on: December 17, 2014, 09:53:02 AM »
Just stop pretending that liberal-learning, athiest, harvard-professor GWill knows what conservatives truly want.

He doesn't.  He has very little in common with conservatives.  Quoting him evaluating voters on Cruz?  That's like quoting Roseanne Barr on what fitness people like lol.

Shut up you lying liberal troll.  (Had to be a little more creative.)   :)

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #310 on: December 17, 2014, 09:54:26 AM »
Krauthammer is right about Cruz. 


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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #311 on: December 17, 2014, 10:10:43 AM »
Cruz apologizes for ruining weekends
By Ted Barrett, CNN
Tue December 16, 2014

Washington (CNN) -- Sen. Ted Cruz apologized Tuesday to Republican senators for disrupting their schedules last weekend when he unexpectedly forced the chamber to be in session after Senate leaders had agreed to send everyone home.

"It was a sincere effort to apologize to those he may have put out," said Sen. Dean Heller, R-Nevada, about the apology, which was delivered behind closed doors at the weekly Republican policy lunch in the Capitol.

The controversial move by Cruz -- what amounted to a procedural sneak attack -- caught his leaders and colleagues off guard. Many were angry because they had already left town for family and holiday events and had to come back for a lengthy Saturday session.

"I think it's always appropriate to apologize for unnecessarily causing other people a distress or concern or requiring a change of plan that was completely unexpected," Sen. Dan Coats, R-Indiana, said.

The schedule change also helped Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid move about two dozen nominations, some controversial, who otherwise might not have been confirmed before the end of the session. Cruz did not apologize for assisting the Democrats push through these nominees, senators said.

"I am pleased the Sen. Cruz apologized," said Sen Susan Collins, R-Maine. "I believe it was warranted and I give him credit for doing so. I hope that he will learn from this experience."

Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-New Hampshire, had flown home to take her daughter to The Nutcracker before getting word she would need to return.

"I appreciate his apology but they're getting a number of nominations," they otherwise wouldn't have, Ayotte said, still sounding frustrated.

"All he has to do is keep us informed about what his tactics are and what he's going to try to achieve and to what lengths he'll go," Heller said. "I don't blame him for what he did. He had a position he wanted to take. I respect that. Just let us know."

A spokeswoman for Cruz did not respond to requests for comment.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/16/politics/ted-cruz-aologizes-senate-gop/index.html?hpt=po_c2

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #312 on: December 17, 2014, 11:50:46 AM »
Shut up you lying liberal troll.  (Had to be a little more creative.)   :)

Dude,,,,, you're going to escort another Dem into office in 2016.   Blah.  That's not cool, bro.

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #313 on: December 17, 2014, 11:59:15 AM »
Dude,,,,, you're going to escort another Dem into office in 2016.   Blah.  That's not cool, bro.

lol.  Says the Obama voter.   ::)

I don't care about political party affiliation.  I will vote for the best candidate, regardless of party in 2016, like I do in every election.  If I think the best candidate is a Democrat, I'll vote for him or her.  If I think it's a Republican, I'll vote for him or her. 

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #314 on: December 17, 2014, 12:01:39 PM »
lol.  Says the Obama voter.   ::)

I don't care about political party affiliation.  I will vote for the best candidate, regardless of party in 2016, like I do in every election.  If I think the best candidate is a Democrat, I'll vote for him or her.  If I think it's a Republican, I'll vote for him or her. 


LOL!  Says the Clinton Voter?

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #315 on: December 17, 2014, 12:04:09 PM »
LOL!  Says the Clinton Voter?

Times two, troll.   :)

What I don't do is lie about my party affiliations.  Like you.  Are you a Republican, independent, libertarian, or Democrat this week?  

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #316 on: December 17, 2014, 12:06:13 PM »
Chill out Guys.. Jimmy Hendrix ;)

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #317 on: December 17, 2014, 12:18:18 PM »

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #318 on: December 25, 2014, 02:01:47 PM »
Jeb Bush Vs. Ted Cruz
December 24, 2014
By Ben Shapiro

Last week, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush announced his intention to "actively explore" a run for president. That announcement spurred spasms of joy in some segments of the Republican Party who have been itching for an effective counter to the enthusiasm of the grassroots right.

Those Republicans — largely coastal donors who scorn social conservatives as rubes, and shun the supposed fiscal extremism of the tea party — have been searching for a candidate who will buck the base on immigration, who doesn't mind hand-in-glove corporatism, and who, most of all, feels the same way they do about the grassroots.

And Jeb Bush promises to fulfill all these criteria. He says he feels "a little out of step with my party" on immigration and recently said that illegal immigration wasn't a "felony" but an "act of love"; his support for Common Core has more than a whiff of cronyism to it; just weeks ago, he told The Wall Street Journal that he would be willing to "lose the primary to win the general without violating [his] principles."

This is the dirty secret of the modern Republican Party: For all the talk about grassroots exasperation with the Republican elites, it is the Republican elites who despise the grassroots. Republican elites do not believe in the dismantling of the welfare state; they believe in its maintenance. They do not believe in the unsophisticated free marketeering of the tea party; they believe in a strong government hand on the economic tiller, so long as that hand is benevolent toward their friends. They do not believe in small government; they believe in large government that serves their ends. If given the choice, a few would even select Hillary Clinton as president over Texas Senator Ted Cruz.

They stake their claim to leadership of the Republican Party on the nonsensical notion that they have a record of victory. Pointing to the dramatic implosions of candidates like Delaware's Christine O'Donnell, who primaried Mike Castle only to be blown out by Chris Coons in her Senatorial race, and Sharron Angle, who lost to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, establishment Republicans state that they — and only they — know how to win elections. They abide by "The Price Is Right" strategy for electoral victory: campaign just to the right of the Democratic candidate in the hopes that you will win everyone to that candidate's right. The magical middle, in this view, is where victory lies.

And so, in 2008, in an election in which Americans resonated to the theme of war weariness, Republicans establishment geniuses touted a Senator most famous for his foreign policy interventionism. In 2012, coming off an election in which Republicans won a stunning victory thanks to popular hatred of Obamacare, Republicans ran the only man in America outside of Barack Obama to implement Obamacare. Grassroots conservatives reluctantly went along with these nominees after failing to unify around an alternative.

Now, in 2016, when Americans have reacted with outrage to President Obama's executive amnesty, and when Hillary Clinton is likely to be the Democratic nominee, establishment Republicans want to run a man whose most famous position is warmth for illegal immigration and is famously chummy with the Clintons (he gave Hillary an award in 2013 for public service).

Why nominate this man? The most common explanation: His widely perceived alternative, grassroots favorite, Ted Cruz, cannot win. Cruz, establishment Republicans say, polarizes instead of unifying; he alienates rather than attracting. But that notion springs, once again, from "The Price Is Right" strategy: If the middle voter is your target, Cruz isn't your man. But the middle voter was Mitt Romney's target in 2012, and he got him — Romney won independents 50-45, but lost the election by five million votes. The middle voter was John McCain's target, too — so much so that McCain considered naming Democratic Senator Joe Lieberman as his running mate. He lost decisively, too.

Will Ted Cruz lose more decisively than either of his predecessors? That's a possibility. But margin of loss is significantly less important than the direction of the political narrative. Party insiders see the 1964 nomination of right-wing Barry Goldwater as a massive defeat. Those outside the party infrastructure see it for what it was: a ground shift in Republican politics that led to the rise of Ronald Reagan. Better to nominate someone who will change the conversation and lose than someone who will reinforce that the parties stand for the same tired politics of failure.

Or, perhaps, Cruz doesn't lose at all. Perhaps it turns out that voters are driven by vision and passion rather than bromides from the Yorks and Lancasters of American politics. Perhaps Ted Cruz, or someone like him, actually animates people rather than treating them like widgets to be manipulated by those born to the purple. Perhaps politics isn't "The Price Is Right."

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/ben-shapiro/jeb-bush-vs-ted-cruz

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #319 on: December 31, 2014, 11:59:42 PM »
Cruz.  Or Lose.

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #320 on: January 01, 2015, 03:25:35 PM »
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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #321 on: January 01, 2015, 03:29:28 PM »

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #322 on: January 01, 2015, 03:36:00 PM »
Cruz.  Or Lose.

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i voted libertarian and will continue to do so.  

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I AM a republican.  I voted for both Bush's and one Dole in the presidential elections, so it really has taken a lot for me to admit my party currently has messed things up bigtime.  I've voted repub my entire life, but YOU have the audacity to say I'm not one, because I don't back the current hijacking of the party?  Sounds like you don't understand the tenets of the party.  When I was running mock school debates in the 8th grade (Bush vs Dukakis), you were prob still in training pants :)  SO I know my party.  And Bush isn't it :(


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I'm a libertarian.

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So I probably will vote dem.  i'd love to see Obama choose a Wes Clark for a running mate, or a Jim Webb, possibly more likely, for strong military and defense credibility.

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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #323 on: January 01, 2015, 04:21:05 PM »
Beach bum/ dos equis,

you're silly.


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Re: Cruz 2016
« Reply #324 on: January 01, 2015, 04:31:45 PM »
Beach bum/ dos equis,

you're silly.



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