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« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2013, 12:15:22 PM »

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« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2013, 05:40:10 PM »

The Great Malenko trained many wrestlers in the Tampa area.
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« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2013, 05:42:38 PM »

The Great Malenko trained many wrestlers in the Tampa area.


How much of the training did he actually do?
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« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2013, 06:24:02 PM »

Jimmy Valiant has a school now. 
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« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2013, 07:47:24 PM »

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« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2013, 02:57:38 AM »

Jimmy Valiant has a school now. 


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« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2013, 02:59:00 AM »

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« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2013, 03:15:53 AM »

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« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2013, 03:23:57 AM »

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Gotch trained both of Boris Malenko's boys, Joe and Dean; a fact of which he was quite fond of boasting.

Years ago, I'd contacted Phyllis Lee who ran the office at Dean's school. I was very disappointed to learn that Dean did very little of the actual training there, as he'd just begun working as a road agent for Vince. Dean more or less lent his name to the school and collected the money, while someone else did the leg work.

Killer Kowalski's school was also that way; at least when I inquired.
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« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2013, 12:51:20 PM »


Gotch trained both of Boris Malenko's boys, Joe and Dean; a fact of which he was quite fond of boasting.

Years ago, I'd contacted Phyllis Lee who ran the office at Dean's school. I was very disappointed to learn that Dean did very little of the actual training there, as he'd just begun working as a road agent for Vince. Dean more or less lent his name to the school and collected the money, while someone else did the leg work.

Killer Kowalski's school was also that way; at least when I inquired.
according to chris jericho's book hart dungeon was like that at the end. a hart took the money and some old guy with a book trained you[chris j] you never saw a hart again.
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« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2013, 05:09:10 PM »

according to chris jericho's book hart dungeon was like that at the end. a hart took the money and some old guy with a book trained you[chris j] you never saw a hart again.


I was literally days away from obtaining a Canadian work visa and trading in my Camaro for a Jeep en route to moving to the legendary Calgary, Alberta Canada. Email correspondence with Bruce Hart put a quick end to that bullshit!
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« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2013, 05:10:19 PM »

according to chris jericho's book hart dungeon was like that at the end. a hart took the money and some old guy with a book trained you[chris j] you never saw a hart again.


BTW - did you see my reply re: Goldust?
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« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2013, 05:49:53 PM »

Malenko did quite a lot of the training. I trained there for 2 years 89-91 and he was there 2-3 days a week. He also ran outlaw shows against FCW and out drew them. Peolple that came and went at that time were Sean Waltman, Black Harts (including Dave Heath-Gangrel), Shamrock (Vince Torelli from theCarolina's), Mark Mero, Van Hammer, Jerry "Lightning Foot"Flynn, Bob Cook.......the list goes on.  Gotch came there quite a bit. Tough old guy.


 
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« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2013, 05:52:40 PM »

Malenko did quite a lot of the training. I trained there for 2 years 89-91 and he was there 2-3 days a week. He also ran outlaw shows against FCW and out drew them. Peolple that came and went at that time were Sean Waltman, Black Harts (including Dave Heath-Gangrel), Shamrock (Vince Torelli from theCarolina's), Mark Mero, Van Hammer, Jerry "Lightning Foot"Flynn, Bob Cook.......the list goes on.  Gotch came there quite a bit. Tough old guy.


If he was still alive, I would pay money today to attend a workshop with Karl Gotch!
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« Reply #39 on: November 04, 2013, 06:18:37 PM »

Heard a rumor he drank 6 Meisterbraus(warm) driving over the Skyway one morning.
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« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2013, 06:48:40 PM »

Heard a rumor he drank 6 Meisterbraus(warm) driving over the Skyway one morning.


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I know hardly any Karl Gotch stories!
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« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2013, 07:17:00 PM »

He hated that bridge. He used to come to the school on sundays and train with the shoot fighters that went over to Japan. Masami Sumari was the main trainer. Bart Vail from Miami also came over . Gotch was almost God like to the Japaneese boys. There is a video on youtube in which Gotch explains conditioning for wrestling/shoot fighting. I rarely trained the shoot style. The business then was highly protected. If my memory is correct, Gotch trained in the mining camps in Europe as a young man. I only briefly talked to him as I trained mostly American style. He was big in person.
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« Reply #42 on: November 05, 2013, 03:40:13 AM »

He hated that bridge. He used to come to the school on sundays and train with the shoot fighters that went over to Japan. Masami Sumari was the main trainer. Bart Vail from Miami also came over . Gotch was almost God like to the Japaneese boys. There is a video on youtube in which Gotch explains conditioning for wrestling/shoot fighting. I rarely trained the shoot style. The business then was highly protected. If my memory is correct, Gotch trained in the mining camps in Europe as a young man. I only briefly talked to him as I trained mostly American style. He was big in person.


I understand he spent considerable time with the Lancashire-area shooters; most notably Billy Riley. Supposedly, the Wigan miners developed the catch-as-catch-can style of shooting. I believe he also learned other systems from other parts of the world, but gained his greatest fame in Japan, where he worked diligently with Inoki to infuse his own unique repertoire with the pro style over there. Inoki apparently adopted this new style for his workers, which soon spread to other promotions like All Japan and IWGP.

Please interject anytime to correct any inaccuracies. I'm only going by bits and pieces of information I've gathered from various sources over the years.
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« Reply #43 on: November 05, 2013, 09:15:55 AM »

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« Reply #44 on: November 05, 2013, 11:19:33 AM »

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« Reply #45 on: November 05, 2013, 03:02:57 PM »

stu hart!
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« Reply #46 on: November 05, 2013, 06:20:05 PM »

stu hart!


Who did Stu train?
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« Reply #47 on: November 05, 2013, 06:40:14 PM »

The Dudley boys have started a wrestling school in Orlando and some talent is starting to come along.
 

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« Reply #48 on: November 05, 2013, 06:50:32 PM »

Lance Storm has been turning out some good ring hands at his Calgary school.
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« Reply #49 on: November 06, 2013, 08:49:28 AM »

who did stu train,you are kidding right,all his kids,bret,owenetc. jim nieinhartd,chris benoit,the british bulldogs,chris Jericho,the list is endless.
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