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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #75 on: May 09, 2013, 03:20:40 PM »
Didn't every one of these people who testified yesterday just repeat what they had said at least a couple of times before

Is there anything new ?

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #76 on: May 09, 2013, 03:28:59 PM »
Didn't every one of these people who testified yesterday just repeat what they had said at least a couple of times before

Is there anything new ?

nothing new here to see,move along  :D :D

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #77 on: May 09, 2013, 04:14:37 PM »
nothing new here to see,move along  :D :D

well Issa said he learned nothing new so maybe after they get tired of trying to make hay out of this they can have more hearings on Solyndra, Fast and Furious and the White House Christmas tree and then Issa can say yet again that he learned nothing new

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #78 on: May 09, 2013, 05:32:39 PM »
nothing new here to see,move along  :D :D




That's for sure.

After the last 4 or so years, I think we've seen all the liberal hypocrisy, stupidity, idiocy, and douchebaggery they can offer.

Give your Obama pic an 'xtra special kiss' tonight.



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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #79 on: May 09, 2013, 05:43:47 PM »



That's for sure.

After the last 4 or so years, I think we've seen all the liberal hypocrisy, stupidity, idiocy, and douchebaggery they can offer.

Give your Obama pic an 'xtra special kiss' tonight.





find another big story to latch to  :D :D :D :D or better yet just win next time  :D :D :D

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #80 on: May 09, 2013, 05:47:24 PM »

find another big story to latch to  :D :D :D :D or better yet just win next time  :D :D :D




That's for sure.  We need a smart 3rd party Independent / maybe Libertarian candidate to get some real traction and actually win a fucking election.




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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #81 on: May 09, 2013, 05:56:46 PM »
what a joke.
Fox and Friends led off their lead stories with Cleveland, immigration and Dolly Parton in their studio - nary a word about the fizzled out testimonies till later into the hour.
and then only in passing.

didn't live up to the hype.

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #82 on: May 09, 2013, 05:57:50 PM »
Didn't every one of these people who testified yesterday just repeat what they had said at least a couple of times before

Is there anything new ?

anything new?  yes.
it embarrassed Fox News again. all the hype leading up to the big day.
then nothing.
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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #83 on: May 09, 2013, 06:06:37 PM »
anything new?  yes.
it embarrassed Fox News again. all the hype leading up to the big day.
then nothing.

fox news,the glen beck of news  :D

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #85 on: May 10, 2013, 06:04:25 AM »
ABC NEWS: Benghazi Talking Points Were 'Dramatically Edited' By The Obama Administration
Brett LoGiurato|13 minutes ago|63|


The State Department explicitly removed all references to terrorism and extremist groups from the original talking points on last September's terrorist attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, according to a report Friday from ABC News' Jon Karl.
 
Karl reports that there were 12 different versions of the talking points before they were given to U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice as she appeared on five Sunday talk shows in the days after the attack and largely blamed it on a spontaneous reaction to an anti-Muslim video.
 
The editing process on the talking points had input from the State Department, which appears to contradict earlier proclamations from the White House suggesting that the talking points were produced almost entirely by the CIA.
 
According to Karl, the early drafts of the talking points included references to "Islamic extremists with ties to al-Qa’ida" who "participated in the attacks," as well as CIA warnings about threats in the months prior to the attack.
 
After State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland expressed concern about those portions and others, small changes were made — which weren't good enough for the Department.
 
"These changes don’t resolve all of my issues or those of my buildings leadership," she wrote.
 
After an interagency meeting at the White House on Saturday, the CIA produced the final version of the talking points, which did not include any references to the terrorist groups and previous security warnings.
 
On Wednesday, the Sept. 11, 2012, attacks gained new momentum with a high-profile Congressional hearing in which three State Department "whistleblowers" offered testimony.
 
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton testified in January that she didn't have any input in the drafting of the talking points.
 
"I wasn’t involved in the talking points process," she said. "As I understand it, as I’ve been told, it was a typical interagency process where staff, including from the State Department, all participated, to try to come up with whatever was going to be made publicly available, and it was an intelligence product."
 
Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) said on "Morning Joe" Thursday that there was a "glaring problem" with State Department emails in the aftermath of the attacks. He said he couldn't go into further detail, and it's unclear if it's related to the ABC report.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/benghazi-talking-points-terror-cover-up-obama-administration-state-dept-2013-5#ixzz2StWVPeGw

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #86 on: May 10, 2013, 09:17:38 AM »
The Benghazi Scandal Grows (Long article)
 TWS ^ | May 20, 2013 | Stephen Hayes

Posted on Friday, May 10, 2013 9:01:13 AM by Kaslin

CIA director David Petraeus was surprised when he read the freshly rewritten talking points an aide had emailed him in the early afternoon of Saturday, September 15. One day earlier, analysts with the CIA’s Office of Terrorism Analysis had drafted a set of unclassified talking points policymakers could use to discuss the attacks in Benghazi, Libya. But this new version​—​produced with input from senior Obama administration policymakers​—​was a shadow of the original.



The original CIA talking points had been blunt: The assault on U.S. facilities in Benghazi was a terrorist attack conducted by a large group of Islamic extremists, including some with ties to al Qaeda.

These were strong claims. The CIA usually qualifies its assessments, providing policymakers a sense of whether the conclusions of its analysis are offered with “high confidence,” “moderate confidence,” or “low confidence.” That first draft signaled confidence, even certainty: “We do know that Islamic extremists with ties to al Qaeda participated in the attack.”

There was good reason for this conviction. Within 24 hours of the attack, the U.S. government had intercepted communications between two al Qaeda-linked terrorists discussing the attacks in Benghazi. One of the jihadists, a member of Ansar al Sharia, reported to the other that he had participated in the assault on the U.S. diplomatic post. Solid evidence. And there was more. Later that same day, the CIA station chief in Libya had sent a memo back to Washington, reporting that eyewitnesses to the attack said the participants were known jihadists, with ties to al Qaeda.

Before circulating the talking points to administration policymakers in the early evening of Friday, September 14, CIA officials changed “Islamic extremists with ties to al Qaeda” to simply “Islamic extremists.” But elsewhere, they added new contextual references to radical Islamists. They noted that initial press reports pointed to Ansar al Sharia involvement and added a bullet point highlighting the fact that the agency had warned about another potential attack on U.S. diplomatic facilities in the region. “On 10 September we warned of social media reports calling for a demonstration in front of the [Cairo] Embassy and that jihadists were threatening to break into the Embassy.” All told, the draft of the CIA talking points that was sent to top Obama administration officials that Friday evening included more than a half-dozen references to the enemy​—​al Qaeda, Ansar al Sharia, jihadists, Islamic extremists, and so on.

The version Petraeus received in his inbox Saturday, however, had none. The only remaining allusion to the bad guys noted that “extremists” might have participated in “violent demonstrations.”

In an email at 2:44 p.m. to Chip Walter, head of the CIA’s legislative affairs office, Petraeus expressed frustration at the new, scrubbed talking points, noting that they had been stripped of much of the content his agency had provided. Petraeus noted with evident disappointment that the policymakers had even taken out the line about the CIA’s warning on Cairo. The CIA director, long regarded as a team player, declined to pick a fight with the White House and seemed resigned to the propagation of the administration’s preferred narrative. The final decisions about what to tell the American people rest with the national security staff, he reminded Walter, and not with the CIA.

This candid, real-time assessment from then-CIA director Petraeus offers a glimpse of what many intelligence officials were saying privately as top Obama officials set aside the truth about Benghazi and spun a fanciful tale about a movie that never mattered and a demonstration that never happened.

“The YouTube video was a nonevent in Libya,” said Gregory Hicks, a 22-year veteran diplomat and deputy chief of mission at the U.S. embassy in Tripoli at the time of the attacks, in testimony before the House Oversight and Reform Committee on May 8. “The only report that our mission made through every channel was that there had been an attack on a consulate . . . no protest.”

So how did Jay Carney, Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and others come to sell the country a spurious narrative about a movie and a protest?

There are still more questions than answers. But one previously opaque aspect of the Obama administration’s efforts is becoming somewhat clearer. An email sent to Susan Rice following a key White House meeting where officials coordinated their public story lays out what happened in that meeting and offers more clues about who might have rewritten the talking points.

The CIA’s talking points, the ones that went out that Friday evening, were distributed via email to a group of top Obama administration officials. Forty-five minutes after receiving them, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland expressed concerns about their contents, particularly the likelihood that members of Congress would criticize the State Department for “not paying attention to Agency warnings.” CIA officials responded with a new draft, stripped of all references to Ansar al Sharia.

In an email a short time later, Nuland wrote that the changes did not “resolve all my issues or those of my building leadership.” She did not specify whom she meant by State Department “building leadership.” Ben Rhodes, a top Obama foreign policy and national security adviser, responded to the group, explaining that Nuland had raised valid concerns and advising that the issues would be resolved at a meeting of the National Security Council’s Deputies Committee the following morning. The Deputies Committee consists of high-ranking officials at the agencies with responsibility for national security​—​including State, Defense, and the CIA​—​as well as senior White House national security staffers.

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #87 on: May 10, 2013, 09:26:40 AM »
what a joke.
Fox and Friends led off their lead stories with Cleveland, immigration and Dolly Parton in their studio - nary a word about the fizzled out testimonies till later into the hour.
and then only in passing.

didn't live up to the hype.



Mmm, Fox and Friends are on at what? 5-6am? It's more entertainment than news even though they do report some news? What's on after that and throughout the day into the night? If it wasn't for FOX this story wouldn't even be known because the Obama media surrogates are just as guilty as Obama and Clinton themselves.

If it was your kid that got killed would you just let it go? Or was this question too much for you?

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #88 on: May 10, 2013, 09:34:55 AM »

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #89 on: May 10, 2013, 12:46:45 PM »
Mmm, Fox and Friends are on at what? 5-6am? It's more entertainment than news even though they do report some news? What's on after that and throughout the day into the night? If it wasn't for FOX this story wouldn't even be known because the Obama media surrogates are just as guilty as Obama and Clinton themselves.

If it was your kid that got killed would you just let it go? Or was this question too much for you?
if it were my kid I would know that he was working with the CIA and that goes along with the job.
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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #90 on: May 10, 2013, 01:04:50 PM »

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #91 on: May 10, 2013, 06:49:37 PM »

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #92 on: May 10, 2013, 09:13:11 PM »
Listening to first testimony (Gregory Hicks), how can anyone side with Hilary on "what difference does it make"?  I'm tempted to use the 'C' word  >:(

Don't even go there!!!  >:(

That is an affront to C's all over the world.
Hillary has neither the warmth nor the depth to be considered one of those.
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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #93 on: May 10, 2013, 09:17:40 PM »
"This has been a difficult week for the State Department and for our country. We’ve seen the heavy assault on our post in Benghazi that took the lives of those brave men. We’ve seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful Internet video that we had nothing do to with.”


She said this at the funeral knowing full well it was all lies

The information that I have been given is that the video was actually made by the FBI
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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #94 on: May 10, 2013, 09:59:06 PM »

Politically it's to badger Obama.

Non-politically it's about a massive failure of people in his administration to effectively handle the incident.  It's about incompetence in key decision making roles and it doesn't appear to be limited to political appointees, but maybe even some career officials who should have been more competent (that last part is speculation and remains to be seen).


What I've been hearing about this is that it is NOT at all a case of incompetence, but rather a hit.

I'm not sure who first brought it up, ...I think it might have been Fury, who to his credit stated that Hillary is the fall guy, and that her resignation was falling on her sword for Obama (if memory serves me correctly)

If the info I have been given is correct, ...it was a direct hit on the Ambassador, by the very team the admin had running security in Benghazi. they wanted the ambassador dead, so he (who was the gunrunner to AlQ terrorists on behalf of the admin) wouldn't reveal that it was America's own proxy who attacked their embassy... so in order to cover up this collosal backfire... they sacrificed the Ambassador.

They had drones overhead, watching the whole thing as it went down, ....and just like Cheney on 911 who ordered fighter jets to stand down, ...they had a torture battalion nearby who ran their secret torture prison available, as well as others, ...but the order was to STAND DOWN... and let the attack continue.  Then they released the FBI produced anti-muslim film in an effort to cover-up the attack. A film that did not cause the massive global Muslim indignation they were hoping to ignite, ...but did subsequently result in additional loss of life.

Just another CT... until proven fact, ...but a plausible one.  We will see...

as AJ previously pointed out Nixon admin was impeached for secretly spying on his opponents, and getting their psych records and lying about it... and here we are 30 - 40 yrs later.... and presidential admins are spying on the entire nation, getting the psych profiles of the entire nation, and breaking laws that get Americans killed... lying about it, ...and it's just business as usual. We are indeed in interesting times. I no longer recognize America.  :'(
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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #95 on: May 10, 2013, 10:02:42 PM »
Bull fucking shit--- Its this kind of sick delusion that has  all the Obama sychophants lying to themselves about having the moral high ground. You and the rest of the dick tugging Obama apologists are pathetic. As an American, if the Bengazzi situation doesn't outrage you, nothing will.

This treasonous coverup was orchestrated for the sole purpose of keeping Obama in power through the election. To manipulate the American public, no expense was spared. Here are some of the more outrageous aspects of the Bengazzi story:

1) The first amendment= thrown out the window. An American citizen had to go into hiding over a youtube video that NOBODY IN THE MIDDLE EAST EVER WATCHED IN THE FIRST PLACE. That same American citizen is now rotting in a Federal prison thanks to Hillary Clinton, Barak Obama and Eric Holder.
2) Next, the Obama Administration wasted 10's of millions of dollars running an apology ad campaign for the video in hell holes like Pakistan to reassure Muslims that Americans are not Islamophobic.  ::)
3) The Obama Administration credited the noble efforts of the Libyan people to save Ambassador Stevens by taking him to the hospital. In actuality, Stevens was sodomized with a Bayonet and taken to an Al Qaeda controlled hospital.
4) Two brave marines defied direct orders not to intervene and save the Ambassador-- they fought valiantly outnumbered and outgunned. What was their repayment? Hours upon hours of frenzied calls for backup went ignored while the President campaigned in Las Vegas and military personnel refused to provide any assistance on their behalf.  
5) Susan Rice was paraded around the talk shows like a pack mule for two solid weeks blaming a non existent you tube video for the attacks-- And the slimy liberal media establishment followed suit and covered Obama's ass.
6) When whistle blowers tried to get the real story out, they were intimidated, threatened and harassed.

This is not political gamesmanship. This is something far more sinister and serious. There should be hell to pay. And God willing, there will be.


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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #96 on: May 10, 2013, 10:06:34 PM »


Wow!!!

All I can say is WOW!!!
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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #97 on: May 14, 2013, 05:00:52 AM »
Exploiting what? A proven cover up with four murders? Should we just sweep it under the rug? What about the promises made by Obama and Clinton to the families? What about the families, you don't think they deserve answers?Holy shit, is commonsense lacking Thay much?

It's not a commonsense thing, ...it's a common decency thing, ...and it is lacking. It is what it always has been, ...a fight not against people, or principalities, ...but spiritual wickedness in high places.
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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #98 on: May 14, 2013, 06:19:34 AM »
It's not a commonsense thing, ...it's a common decency thing, ...and it is lacking. It is what it always has been, ...a fight not against people, or principalities, ...but spiritual wickedness in high places.
or a CIA operation. in which case it will stay buried.
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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #99 on: May 14, 2013, 01:55:17 PM »
The information that I have been given is that the video was actually made by the FBI

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