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« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2013, 03:22:40 PM »
I'm talking about impeachment.  Obama knew.  The coverup with right from the white house.

I'm a little shocked, too lol, that I'm accusing repubs of kneepadding and calling for impeachment while they're all "well, we dont know, let's not be rash, let's all have some cookies and let this issue fall to the wayside..."

The fact mcaain scoffed at impeachment - sickens me.  I just hope some 2016 hopefuls step up and use the "i" word soon.

Impeach on what grounds..


and just for shits and giggles....does the fact that Clinton asked for money to secure the embassys around the world, and was turned down, have any place in these "who dropped the ball" hearings?

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« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2013, 03:24:53 PM »
Impeach on what grounds..


and just for shits and giggles....does the fact that Clinton asked for money to secure the embassys around the world, and was turned down, have any place in these "who dropped the ball" hearings?


Bullshit - that is 100% false

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« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2013, 03:25:37 PM »

Bullshit - that is 100% false
so... there wasnt money that was asked for and denied?

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« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2013, 03:28:20 PM »
so... there wasnt money that was asked for and denied?

testimony is that money had nothing to do w the failures of obama and hillary.

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« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2013, 03:29:20 PM »
testimony is that money had nothing to do w the failures of obama and hillary.

GOP Rep: I 'Absolutely' Voted To Cut Funding For Embassy Security | ThinkProgressCurrent Status: Blessed (1)Change Status:   BlessedPublishedUnpublis hedRestoredQuarantinedDu plicatedCensored
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“[...] hidden beneath the GOP campaign is the fact that House Republicans voted to cut nearly $300 million from the U.S. embassy security budget. When asked if he voted to cut the funds this morning on CNN, Chaffetz said, “Absolutely“:

“O’BRIEN: Is it true that you voted to cut the funding for embassy security?

“CHAFFETZ: Absolutely. Look, we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have — think about this — 15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, private army there for President Obama in Baghdad.

“And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces? When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices how to prioritize this.


So to re-cap, the security situation in the case of Benghazi was entirely the choice of the GOP  since they denied additional funding from the security budget.

For the reality-challenged Republicans out there, yes, the House does control the budget process and the President cannot change the budget bill or re-allocate money elsewhere, so Benghazi's lack of security was A REPUBLICAN @!$%# UP.  Period.

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« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2013, 03:30:36 PM »

Hey fool - go read the testimony. 



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“[...] hidden beneath the GOP campaign is the fact that House Republicans voted to cut nearly $300 million from the U.S. embassy security budget. When asked if he voted to cut the funds this morning on CNN, Chaffetz said, “Absolutely“:

“O’BRIEN: Is it true that you voted to cut the funding for embassy security?

“CHAFFETZ: Absolutely. Look, we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have — think about this — 15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, private army there for President Obama in Baghdad.

“And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces? When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices how to prioritize this.


So to re-cap, the security situation in the case of Benghazi was entirely the choice of the GOP  since they denied additional funding from the security budget.

For the reality-challenged Republicans out there, yes, the House does control the budget process and the President cannot change the budget bill or re-allocate money elsewhere, so Benghazi's lack of security was A REPUBLICAN @!$%# UP.  Period.

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« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2013, 03:31:32 PM »
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“[...] hidden beneath the GOP campaign is the fact that House Republicans voted to cut nearly $300 million from the U.S. embassy security budget. When asked if he voted to cut the funds this morning on CNN, Chaffetz said, “Absolutely“:

“O’BRIEN: Is it true that you voted to cut the funding for embassy security?

“CHAFFETZ: Absolutely. Look, we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have — think about this — 15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, private army there for President Obama in Baghdad.

“And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces? When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices how to prioritize this.


So to re-cap, the security situation in the case of Benghazi was entirely the choice of the GOP  since they denied additional funding from the security budget.

For the reality-challenged Republicans out there, yes, the House does control the budget process and the President cannot change the budget bill or re-allocate money elsewhere, so Benghazi's lack of security was A REPUBLICAN @!$%# UP.  Period.

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Total red herring.  The Obama Administration already admitted the funding reduction had nothing to do with the lack of security in Benghazi.

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« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2013, 03:32:08 PM »
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63 Comments / 63 New.This sad, ugly attack from the GOP trying to pin the murders of 4 Americans on President Obama is starting to backfire hard.

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I'm sure everyone saw the debate where Obama schooled Romney so hard on the Libya attacks and his exploitation of them to the point that it almost looked like Romney was going to cry... almost.

Well its not looking any better for the GOP. This was the wrong fight to pick and now it is blowing up in their face....

House Republicans cut the administration’s request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012....Last year, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that Republicans’ proposed cuts to her department would be “detrimental to America’s national security” — a charge Republicans rejected.
Ryan, Issa and other House Republicans voted for an amendment in 2009 to cut $1.2 billion from State operations, including funds for 300 more diplomatic security positions. Under Ryan’s budget, non-defense discretionary spending, which includes State Department funding, would be slashed nearly 20 percent in 2014, which would translate to more than $400 million in additional cuts to embassy security.

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You read that right. As Romney and Ryan take turns slamming Obama over 4 Americans killed at our embassy in Libya, Paul Ryan voted to cut over $400 Million from foreign embassy safety funding. You know, funding used to prevent attacks from happening.
The same goes for Darrell Issa, the GOP's head witch hunter.

They have the nerve to bitch that there should have been more protection at the embassy after they cut $400 Million from funding that would have provided more protection.

Maybe they'll now understand why running through a budget with a machete and cutting everything in sight probably isn't a good idea.

But I'm won't hold my breath.

I think the GOP should apologize to the family members affected by this attack, A) for politicizing their deaths and using it to falsely smear Obama B) for cutting funding that would have been used to prevent this attack and possibly saved their lives.

I also think they should apologize to President Obama and his Administration.

Trying to pin these murders on Obama and use it against him is a pretty cold move.

When 3,000 Americans were killed on US soil, we didn't use it to try to bring down a President we didn't like (and didn't even win). We came together and out our differences aside. I have no confidence or proof that Republicans would do the same if the tables were turned.

The Iraq war is what polarized Bush and turned half the country against him. Amongst other things...

Obama deserves an apology from Mitt Romney and the GOP for using a tragedy to try and smear him when the House GOP voted to cut funding that may have prevented that tragedy.

But once again... I won't hold my breath.
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« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2013, 03:33:05 PM »
Total red herring.  The Obama Administration already admitted the funding reduction had nothing to do with the lack of security in Benghazi.
so the hearing is about a direct order from Obama make soliders stand down?

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« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2013, 03:34:53 PM »
so the hearing is about a direct order from Obama make soliders stand down?

No.  It's about why we didn't properly protect our civilians, why we didn't do everything we could to try and save them, and why we lied about the cause of the terrorist attack.  Overall, it's about truth and accountability. 

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« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2013, 03:39:53 PM »
No.  It's about why we didn't properly protect our civilians, why we didn't do everything we could to try and save them, and why we lied about the cause of the terrorist attack.  Overall, it's about truth and accountability. 

ok...let me get this straight...you are saying this is a 2 headed objective of this hearing on the embassy attack?

One that says there could have been more done and President Obama is accountable...
Forgetting that there were 50+ embassy attacks resulting in 3 American Deaths with not a peep from anyone...


and the Other objective is to find a cover up about the source of the attacks with no real endgame or motive of a cover up...

Correct?

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« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2013, 03:42:57 PM »


Its only political because obama covered up and was denying the obvious and kept bullshitting the families to cover up his lies and incompetence. 




ok...let me get this straight...you are saying this is a 2 headed objective of this hearing on the embassy attack?

One that says there could have been more done and President Obama is accountable...
Forgetting that there were 50+ embassy attacks resulting in 3 American Deaths with not a peep from anyone...


and the Other objective is to find a cover up about the source of the attacks with no real endgame or motive of a cover up...

Correct?

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« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2013, 03:44:19 PM »

Its only political because obama covered up and was denying the obvious and kept bullshitting the families to cover up his lies and incompetence. 




what did he cover up.

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« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2013, 03:47:02 PM »
what did he cover up.

1.  The cause of the attack
2.  Who did the attack
3.  What the people on the ground told hillary the night of the attack
4.  The state of security of the embassy before the attack


Etc etc etc

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« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2013, 03:47:34 PM »
1.  The cause of the attack
2.  Who did the attack
3.  What the people on the ground told hillary the night of the attack
4.  The state of security of the embassy before the attack


Etc etc etc

so it was a terroist attack right?

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« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2013, 03:48:32 PM »
so it was a terroist attack right?

It was an al quaeda attack pre planned that had nothing whatsoever to do w a video and there was nothing spontaneous about it like oshit and hillary and rice said

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« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2013, 03:49:21 PM »
It was an al quaeda attack pre planned that had nothing whatsoever to do w a video and there was nothing spontaneous about it like oshit and hillary and rice said

so was it a terroist attack?

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« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2013, 03:50:08 PM »
so was it a terroist attack?

STFU - more word games to avoid admitting obama rice and hillary lied and tried to cover this up. 

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« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2013, 03:54:31 PM »
STFU - more word games to avoid admitting obama rice and hillary lied and tried to cover this up. 

lol...relax...if you are fact based this is easy...you stated that he lied on the source of the attack...

and when he addressed the attack...he referred to it as an act of terror...no?

so are you saying it wasnt an act of terror?


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« Reply #44 on: May 13, 2013, 04:00:09 PM »
ok...let me get this straight...you are saying this is a 2 headed objective of this hearing on the embassy attack?

One that says there could have been more done and President Obama is accountable...
Forgetting that there were 50+ embassy attacks resulting in 3 American Deaths with not a peep from anyone...


and the Other objective is to find a cover up about the source of the attacks with no real endgame or motive of a cover up...

Correct?

Not exactly.  Yes it's about whether more could have been done to provide better security and to try and help them after the attack started. 

No it's not about the 50+embassy attacks you referenced, which really have nothing to do with Benghazi. 

Yes it's about finding out why they scrubbed the talking points and why they repeatedly lied to the American public. 


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« Reply #45 on: May 13, 2013, 04:00:13 PM »
lol...relax...if you are fact based this is easy...you stated that he lied on the source of the attack...

and when he addressed the attack...he referred to it as an act of terror...no?

so are you saying it wasnt an act of terror?




Yes they did moron - that was the basis of the editing of the talking points and then spending weeks and time blaming a video instead of al aqueada as the cause of the attack.

Bro - in all seriousness - you are a disgrace on all levels to shill for Pres. Preezzyyy like this all cause he is black.  

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« Reply #46 on: May 13, 2013, 04:05:40 PM »
Not exactly.  Yes it's about whether more could have been done to provide better security and to try and help them after the attack started. 

No it's not about the 50+embassy attacks you referenced, which really have nothing to do with Benghazi. 

Yes it's about finding out why they scrubbed the talking points and why they repeatedly lied to the American public. 



so...the lack of security on the embassy is categorized as a scandal?

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« Reply #47 on: May 13, 2013, 04:07:55 PM »
so...the lack of security on the embassy is categorized as a scandal?

Partly considering Stevens and others begged State Dept for more security and instead they got some local sand rats w flashlights instead of real security.  But that is only part of it.


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« Reply #48 on: May 13, 2013, 04:09:19 PM »
Partly considering Stevens and others begged State Dept for more security and instead they got some local sand rats w flashlights instead of real security.  But that is only part of it.




Sooooo the fact the that funds were asked for and voted down have no blame?

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« Reply #49 on: May 13, 2013, 04:10:37 PM »

Sooooo the fact the that funds were asked for and voted down have no blame?

He moron - the people from the State Department testified funding had nothing to do w the level of security at the embassy that was requested.