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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #250 on: February 20, 2017, 06:15:19 PM »
Actually if Trump violates the Constitution, he gets checked by the courts, which happened to Obama several times.  Trump has been checked twice now (even though I disagree with the decisions).  The system of checks and balances works. 

TheGrinch is absolutely right:  people are trying to criminalize political disagreements.   

I agree with all of this.

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #251 on: February 20, 2017, 06:16:00 PM »
I can mostly agree, but who determines what is a bad law or a good one?

The public.  Common sense.  The courts.  It's sort of like porn:  you know it when you see it.   :)

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #252 on: February 20, 2017, 06:51:03 PM »
Apparently this isn't the case with the current administration....specia lly when it comes to monitoring Trump's off the wall comments....Trump asked people to ‘look at what’s happening … in Sweden.’

When called on his comments, he essentially blamed FOX News by saying he got his information there. My question is when is the news fake and when is it real, in Trump's mind?



IDK but everything is filtered through too few who make up our media, and these are the problems we're asking for, by allowing it.  This is the result.

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #253 on: February 24, 2017, 12:24:13 PM »
Richmond City Council unanimously approves Trump impeachment resolution
By Lilian Kim
Thursday, February 23, 2017
RICHMOND, Calif. --

The first 100 days of the Trump administration aren't even over yet, and the president is already facing calls for impeachment, but it's not from Congress. Instead, a Bay Area city made a bold move.

Richmond City Council says it has become the first city in the country to go on record in support of impeachment hearings for President Donald Trump.

The council acknowledged how unusual it was to call for the president's impeachment. He's been in office for only a month, but the vote was unanimous.

"Unfortunately with this president it's oddly appropriate," said Richmond City Councilmember Jael Myrick.

Councilmember Gayle McLaughlin spearheaded the resolution, which calls Congress to investigate the president's business holdings, something his critics believe are grounds for impeachment.

"This is our voice," she said. "This is our country. We have a right to speak up."

Even in this progressive city, there was one vocal Trump supporter who was eventually thrown out for swearing at the council.

"Actually you don't have a voice because the GOP controls Congress, and you people are stupid enough to think Congress will impeach Trump," said Richmond resident Mark Wassberg.

Supporters of the resolution, however; remain undeterred.

"A lot of politicians aren't willing to go on the record to do this because it can go against them," said Richmond resident Ellen Faden. "But as grass roots, as Bernie said, we have to start from the grass roots."

By passing this resolution, the Richmond City Council is now hoping it'll inspire other cities to do the same.

http://abc7.com/politics/richmond-unanimously-approves-trump-impeachment-resolution/1769214/

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #254 on: February 24, 2017, 01:41:51 PM »
^ Unfortunately for them, I don't think anyone takes Richmond CA very seriously.  It's a violent mess, with their citizens getting mowed down by drug dealers at breakneck speed.  Maybe they should fix that little issue that before they devote a single thought to Trump.

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #255 on: March 01, 2017, 05:25:45 PM »
Democrats talk up impeachment on eve of Trump address
By Susan Ferrechio (@susanferrechio) • 2/27/17

The top Democratic leaders in Congress condemned the presidency of Donald Trump on Tuesday at a National Press Club Forum, where they hinted they might eventually seek to impeach him and they predicted his address to the House and Senate on Tuesday would be full of empty promises.
 
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said Trump has misled the public to a degree that "there are plenty of grounds right now for the current president" to be impeached. But the public is not fully on board yet, Pelosi said, because "many of the president's supporters are not ready to accept the fact that their judgement may not have been so great in voting for him."
 
Pelosi said by the time the case is made for impeachment, "perhaps they will be ready to accept that."
 
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She added, "It's very hard, impeachment."
 
Pelosi appeared alongside Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., where the two eviscerated Trump's first month in office, and compared it unfavorably to President Obama's quick passage of a $1 trillion stimulus bill shortly after he became president in 2009. They also downplayed Trump's planned joint address on Tuesday night as, essentially, a big lie.
 
"It will be the usual bluster and blame," predicted Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer, D-N.Y. "Populist platitudes will be a dime a dozen, but the focus should be on the president's actions rather than his empty words."
 
Schumer and Pelosi accused Trump of formulating an agenda to benefit the rich at the expense of the working class.

Earlier Monday, the White House signaled it would propose a budget that increases defense spending by $54 billion and makes cuts in domestic spending to make up the difference.
 
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., suggested Republicans would simply make a 10 percent cut across the entire budget, which isn't likely. Such a move, Pelosi calculated, would result in cuts to job training, the National Institutes of Health and early childhood education, among other vital programs.
 
She took another jab at Trump's competency in running the country.
 
"I don't even know if the President understands the ramifications of the cuts that he is proposing," Pelosi said.
 
Democrats and Republicans have in the past agreed to equal spending on both the domestic and defense budgets, Pelosi said.

"We have to see more about this budget but hopefully it will honor the 50-50 we had before," Pelosi said. "Any cuts had to be shared equally."
 
A reporter asked Pelosi why she has not called for impeachment proceedings against Trump when some scholars have suggested there is enough evidence to begin the Congressional process of ousting a president. Democrats want an independent commission to be appointed to investigate Trump's so-called connections with the Russian government, though the FBI has found no direct link.
 
Pelosi said she "never recovered with the left on this subject for not impeaching President Bush," over the war in Iraq.
 
She even though she is not currently demanding impeachment of Trump, "that doesn't mean nobody is listening to the cases being made, in a very scientific and methodical way, as to whether there are grounds for impeachment."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/democrats-talk-up-impeachment-on-eve-of-trump-address-to-congress/article/2615914

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #256 on: March 01, 2017, 06:04:25 PM »
We should impeach cuntlosi and wasaman shitz along w the entire CBC

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #257 on: March 21, 2017, 01:07:37 PM »
Rep. Maxine Waters to Trump: 'Get Ready for Impeachment'
By Joe Crowe   |    Tuesday, 21 Mar 2017

A Democratic congresswoman issued a warning about impeachment to President Donald Trump in a tweet on Tuesday.

Maxine Waters
✔  ‎@MaxineWaters 
Get ready for impeachment.
2:56 AM - 21 Mar 2017

Rep. Maxine Waters has called on Congress to impeach the president if evidence appears that proves collusion with the Russian government during his presidential campaign, according to The Hill.

No evidence has appeared that ties members of Trump's campaign to officials in the Kremlin.

The California Democrat has not minced words when discussing issues about Trump and members of his campaign. Pinned to the top of her Twitter account is an image depicting what she calls Trump's "Kremlin Klan."

Maxine Waters‏Verified account
@MaxineWaters 
Meet @realDonaldTrump's #KremLINKlan:



And in February, she said his advisers who have Russia ties are "a bunch of scumbags … who are all organized around making money."

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/maxine-waters-trump-ready-impeachment/2017/03/21/id/779969/

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #258 on: March 21, 2017, 02:13:26 PM »
You know what I never understood about people? Talking up shit before they have an actual case.

If you really think that Trump has done some colluding with a foreign power, why would you go around announcing it before you have a solid case?

Are people really that moronic?

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #259 on: March 21, 2017, 02:20:59 PM »
You know what I never understood about people? Talking up shit before they have an actual case.

If you really think that Trump has done some colluding with a foreign power, why would you go around announcing it before you have a solid case?

Are people really that moronic?

Yes, unfortunately.  And Trump has put himself in the same boat with loonies like Waters and Pelosi. 

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #260 on: March 21, 2017, 02:22:30 PM »
Yes, unfortunately.  And Trump has put himself in the same boat with loonies like Waters and Pelosi. 

Sad... Truly sad.

Clowns the lot of them.

We get the government we deserve.  :'(

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #261 on: March 21, 2017, 02:26:38 PM »
Rep. Maxine Waters to Trump: 'Get Ready for Impeachment'
By Joe Crowe   |    Tuesday, 21 Mar 2017

A Democratic congresswoman issued a warning about impeachment to President Donald Trump in a tweet on Tuesday.

Maxine Waters



Isn't that the demented fucktard who said "Putin is advancing in Korea" ?
And swore "USA would stand by Limpopo" when Russian pranksters called her presenting themselves Ukrainian officials worried about Putin hacking elections in Limpopo  ;D

Amazing if someone puts any weight on what she is saying.

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #262 on: March 21, 2017, 02:29:04 PM »
Rep. Maxine Waters to Trump: 'Get Ready for Impeachment'
By Joe Crowe   |    Tuesday, 21 Mar 2017

A Democratic congresswoman issued a warning about impeachment to President Donald Trump in a tweet on Tuesday.

Maxine Waters
✔  ‎@MaxineWaters 
Get ready for impeachment.
2:56 AM - 21 Mar 2017

Rep. Maxine Waters has called on Congress to impeach the president if evidence appears that proves collusion with the Russian government during his presidential campaign, according to The Hill.

No evidence has appeared that ties members of Trump's campaign to officials in the Kremlin.

The California Democrat has not minced words when discussing issues about Trump and members of his campaign. Pinned to the top of her Twitter account is an image depicting what she calls Trump's "Kremlin Klan."

Maxine Waters‏Verified account
@MaxineWaters 
Meet @realDonaldTrump's #KremLINKlan:



And in February, she said his advisers who have Russia ties are "a bunch of scumbags … who are all organized around making money."

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/maxine-waters-trump-ready-impeachment/2017/03/21/id/779969/

Her comments make her sound like a loon. As TuHolmes said, if you're going to make accusations, show something to backs up your claims.

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #263 on: March 21, 2017, 02:29:23 PM »

Isn't that the demented fucktard who said "Putin is advancing in Korea" ?
And swore "USA would stand by Limpopo" when Russian pranksters called her presenting themselves Ukrainian officials worried about Putin hacking elections in Limpopo  ;D

Amazing if someone puts any weight on what she is saying.


I do recall the pranks, I think it's the same person.

She's definitely not the brightest bulb in the box and I think I recall her being charged with some kind of house ethics violation some years back?

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #264 on: March 21, 2017, 02:29:28 PM »
Sad... Truly sad.

Clowns the lot of them.

We get the government we deserve.  :'(

Yep.  Voter apathy.  Our turnout stinks.  And we keep electing and reelecting duds.    

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #265 on: April 04, 2017, 05:36:22 PM »


Maxine Waters: Let’s talk about Trump’s impeachment (again)
April 3, 2017 by John Sexton
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You have to give her credit for consistency. Rep. Maxine Waters has been talking about impeaching President Trump since before he was President. Over the weekend Waters appeared on CNN and once again said she is eager to talk about impeachment.

“Most people believe that he’s about diversion, that he’s about keeping people from really dealing with the issue,” Waters said. “We want to know whether or not there was collusion. We want to know about the hacking into the DNC and the interference with our elections,” she continued.

“And I really want to know because I know if we can prove collusion that he is impeachable,” she said. “Lot of people don’t want to talk about that but I do,” Waters continued. “I want to talk about him. I want to talk about this Kremlin clan that’s around him.”

Waters claimed earlier this month that the “sex actions” in a dossier about Trump which was published by Buzzfeed were “supposed to be true.” In fact, no one has shown any proof those accusations are true.

I’ve suggested before that it seems as if Rep. Waters is one-half of a good cop/bad cop routine with the Democratic leadership. She has been all over television making this claim for nearly three months. In February she even had Nancy Pelosi correct her in person and clarify that nothing Trump had done thus far was impeachable. Rep. Waters didn’t take the hint and was back on MSNBC the next day talking about impeachment again.

In the short run, this sort of talk certainly keeps the base energized and gives The Resistance hope that something will be found to undo the results of the last election. But in the longer run, this strategy seems pretty ill-advised. Having been promised impeachment from the very start, it may be hard for progressive partisans to settle for anything less than Trump’s removal from office.

And yet, they keep talking about it. Today, Fox News’ Juan Williams joins the impeachment bandwagon with a piece that concludes, “it is no liberal fantasy to say the odds of a Trump resignation or impeachment before 2020 are looking better by the day.”




http://hotair.com/archives/2017/04/03/maxine-waters-lets-talk-about-trumps-impeachment/

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #266 on: April 05, 2017, 06:41:14 PM »
My previous 8 (ex) wives are still asking what  they did to deserve being married to me ???

Wow.

You don't like women, you like PAIN.

8x? Really?

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #267 on: May 16, 2017, 07:54:55 PM »
Tin foil hats for everyone.

Congressional Dems making early calls for Trump's impeachment

By Brooke Singman
Published May 16, 2017
Fox News

That didn't take long.

A small group of President Trump's most outspoken critics has seized on the James Comey controversy to make a — very — early push for impeachment.

The latest call came from Rep. Al Green, D-Texas, who released a statement suggesting Comey’s ouster from atop the FBI was an obstruction of the investigation “of the president’s campaign ties to Russian influence in his 2016 presidential election.” He said Trump has committed acts that “amount to intimidation and obstruction.”

“Our mantra should be I.T.N—Impeach Trump Now,” Green wrote in an email, which included a line in red pushing those who received the email to “forward this email to others who may be interested.”

 Scott Wong ✔ @scottwongDC
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The White House has defended the decision to fire Comey. The president's team last week cited a DOJ memo castigating his handling of the Hillary Clinton email probe, though Trump himself has since said he would have fired Comey regardless of any recommendation.

Most Democrats are fighting back by calling for a special prosecutor to probe Russian meddling in the 2016 campaign, worried Comey's firing was meant to blunt that investigation.

But a handful of Democrats want to go the distance, and are openly using the "I" word.

Green joined other Democratic lawmakers like Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., who has been discussing impeachment for months. Waters took to Twitter in April saying that she would “fight every day until he’s impeached.”

She later denied calling for impeachment, but on Thursday renewed her push during an interview with MSNBC’s Chris Hayes.

“I’ve said all along that he will lead us to impeachment, and he’s doing just that,” Waters said on MSNBC. “We’re fiddling while Rome is burning. This president needs to be impeached.”

Waters has received her fair share of impeachment backlash from Trump supporters. Most recently, Waters was greeted by pro-Trump protesters before a town hall on Saturday, with some holding signs calling for her impeachment.

Others Democratic lawmakers who have brought up the topic of impeachment include Reps. John Yarmuth, D-Ky., who told a local news station last week that Democrats were “actually pretty close to considering impeachment,” and Mark Pocan, D-Wis., who said on local radio that if there was an “impeachment clock,” Comey’s ouster would have moved it an “hour closer.” 

Rep. Jared Huffman, D-Calif., also joined the discussion, tweeting last week that “Impeachment will happen if a handful of Republicans in Congress join Dems to put country above party. Or in 2019 after Dems win the House.”

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But one former Democratic lawmaker told Fox News that even suggesting impeachment is "dangerous" for the American people.

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Dennis Kucinich, former Ohio congressman and a Fox News contributor, told Fox News on Tuesday that there was a “danger in engaging in compulsive opposition.”

Kucinich, who called for the impeachment of President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney over the decision to go to war in Iraq, told Fox News that this is only an option “after exhausting a number of other options.”

“It is destructive to America to proceed with an impeachment at this stage of the presidency,” Kucinich said. “This is not the first thing you reach for, because when the first big move a party makes is towards impeachment, it’s very difficult for the American people to conclude that it is anything but a partisan issue.”

In order to impeach the president of the United States, the House of Representatives must have the support of the majority of members. At this point, no Republicans have voiced support, or even made the suggestion to begin the impeachment process.

While Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii, has said she is doing her “homework” on the issue, she also took a shot at the vice president suggesting he wouldn’t be much better.

“I will just say I understand the calls for impeachment, but what I am being cautious about and what I give you food for thought about is that if President Trump is impeached, the problems don’t go away, because then you have a Vice President Pence who becomes President Pence,” Gabbard said at a town hall last month.

Kucinich told Fox News that while he is aware of the extreme opposition to President Trump’s policies, Democrats should focus on their ability to impact policy, which could be “attractive” to Americans in 2018.

“It’s far better to offer alternatives to the policies of this president," Kucinich said. "Otherwise, this is a grim partisan effort which inevitably will go nowhere.”

In the wake of a New York Times report on Tuesday evening suggesting that Mr. Trump asked Comey to end the probe into former National Security Advisor Gen. Michael Flynn, former Republican Rep. David Jolly, R-Fla., jumped on the bandwaggon suggesting the Trump family may not be in Washington for long.

Jolly tweeted: "Hope that private school tuition in Maryland this Fall for the POTUS family is refundable."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/16/congressional-dems-making-early-calls-for-trumps-impeachment.html

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #268 on: May 16, 2017, 08:04:25 PM »
If everything were identical except with Hillary as POTUS I have zero doubt that the Republicans would have impeached her by now

We're starting to see some fissures with Republicans and I think if this train wreck continues on the same course it's only a matter of time until these people start to realize it's time to put their country before their party loyalty


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The only honest answer is that an impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers [it] to be at a given moment in history; conviction results from whatever offense or offenses two-thirds of the other body considers to be sufficiently serious to require removal of the accused from office.
Gerald Ford, remarks in the House (April 15, 1970), Congressional Record, vol. 116, p. 11913.

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #269 on: May 17, 2017, 03:21:44 AM »
If everything were identical except with Hillary as POTUS I have zero doubt that the Republicans would have impeached her by now

We're starting to see some fissures with Republicans and I think if this train wreck continues on the same course it's only a matter of time until these people start to realize it's time to put their country before their party loyalty

Gerald Ford, remarks in the House (April 15, 1970), Congressional Record, vol. 116, p. 11913.

Liberals should love this - nothing is gettimg done on his agenda .   It's chaos 24/7 - and you could have a Pence in there getting his whole agenda rammed through congress.   

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #270 on: May 17, 2017, 03:03:02 PM »
Worried about fallout, Dems poised to poll-test impeachment
BY ALEX ROARTY
aroarty@mcclatchydc.com
May 16, 2017

Democratic strategists are racing to figure out whether it’s politically wise to call for President Donald Trump’s impeachment, as one bombshell revelation after another about his ties to Russia is forcing candidates for the Senate and House of Representatives to consider the question far sooner than anyone had expected.

In a significant development, party operatives say they expect Democrats to poll-test the public’s views on impeachment, trying to acquire hard data about an issue that until now has not been seriously analyzed. Other strategists say that candidates and party organizations will begin conducting focus groups on the question.

These operatives acknowledge they’ve been caught off guard by the speed with which impeachment has become a relevant issue – and are wary of the political damage it could cause if not handled correctly.

Even 10 days ago, before Trump fired FBI Director James Comey, few party officials had even considered such a dramatic move, which has happened only twice in American history.

“I mean, Jesus, it’s not even Memorial Day!” said one Democratic operative.

Only after testing the question with voters will the party have a firmer sense of how it should act.

“I have no clue, to be honest,” another Democratic operative said when asked what party strategists made of the politics of impeachment after The New York Times reported on a Comey memo that alleges Trump asked the then-FBI director to drop his probe of the president’s first national security adviser. “Still processing what we’re reading in The Times.”

So far, only a handful of Democratic lawmakers have outright called for impeachment. Most have preferred a more cautious approach, calling for a special prosecutor to oversee the investigation into Trump officials’ possible ties to Russia.

Democratic strategists emphasized that they expect that questions of independent investigations – and not calls for impeachment – will be the overwhelming focus for the party in the coming days.

But on Tuesday night, CNN reported that even Republican lawmakers are now debating whether to support an independent prosecutor or independent commission after the latest round of revelations.

And some Democrats are starting to at least entertain the possibility of impeachment.

“If it is, in fact, true, then yes, that is an impeachable offense,” said Rep. Joaquin Castro, D-Texas, on CNN.

Last week, Democratic Rep. Mark Pocan of Wisconsin suggested the country needed an “impeachment clock” to track how close the president was to being removed from office.

Pressure might also mount from the party’s liberal base, which has grown in size and relevance since Trump’s election, to call for impeachment.

One progressive leader called impeachment a “no-brainer.”

“Impeachment is the only way to stop Donald Trump, whose corruption and incompetence is placing our country in greater danger with each passing day,” said Charles Chamberlain, executive director of Democracy for America.

Still, some Democrats expressed skepticism that impeachment is the right move for the party. Tom Perez, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, stuck to his message that a special, independent investigation is needed.

“This is why we need a special prosecutor,” he said. “The evidence is mounting by the day. But as long as Republicans continue putting party over country, justice will never be served. Make no mistake: Their complacency is complicity, and history will remember them as cowards.”

The problem, these more wary Democrats argue, is that so much of the playing field during next year’s midterm elections is in states or districts favorable to Trump.

Senate Democrats must defend 10 states that Trump won during last year’s election.

“Voting for a check on Trump is one thing,” said one national Democratic strategist, granted anonymity to speak candidly about party strategy. “But if a vote for a check on the president . . . becomes a de facto vote for an impeachment trial, the task in front of us will only get more difficult.”

Another operative said he expects that the House GOP’s health care bill – the American Health Care Act – still would play a bigger role in next year’s midterm elections.

“Health care remains the most personal issue facing voters,” he said. “Until that’s taken off the table completely, it’s hard to see how that doesn’t motivate the backlash.”

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article150938202.html#storylink=cpy

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #271 on: May 17, 2017, 03:19:07 PM »
Worried about fallout, Dems poised to poll-test impeachment
BY ALEX ROARTY
aroarty@mcclatchydc.com
May 16, 2017

Democratic strategists are racing to figure out whether it’s politically wise to call for President Donald Trump’s impeachment, as one bombshell revelation after another about his ties to Russia is forcing candidates for the Senate and House of Representatives to consider the question far sooner than anyone had expected.

In a significant development, party operatives say they expect Democrats to poll-test the public’s views on impeachment, trying to acquire hard data about an issue that until now has not been seriously analyzed. Other strategists say that candidates and party organizations will begin conducting focus groups on the question.

These operatives acknowledge they’ve been caught off guard by the speed with which impeachment has become a relevant issue – and are wary of the political damage it could cause if not handled correctly.

Even 10 days ago, before Trump fired FBI Director James Comey, few party officials had even considered such a dramatic move, which has happened only twice in American history.

“I mean, Jesus, it’s not even Memorial Day!” said one Democratic operative.

Only after testing the question with voters will the party have a firmer sense of how it should act.

“I have no clue, to be honest,” another Democratic operative said when asked what party strategists made of the politics of impeachment after The New York Times reported on a Comey memo that alleges Trump asked the then-FBI director to drop his probe of the president’s first national security adviser. “Still processing what we’re reading in The Times.”

So far, only a handful of Democratic lawmakers have outright called for impeachment. Most have preferred a more cautious approach, calling for a special prosecutor to oversee the investigation into Trump officials’ possible ties to Russia.

Democratic strategists emphasized that they expect that questions of independent investigations – and not calls for impeachment – will be the overwhelming focus for the party in the coming days.

But on Tuesday night, CNN reported that even Republican lawmakers are now debating whether to support an independent prosecutor or independent commission after the latest round of revelations.

And some Democrats are starting to at least entertain the possibility of impeachment.

“If it is, in fact, true, then yes, that is an impeachable offense,” said Rep. Joaquin Castro, D-Texas, on CNN.

Last week, Democratic Rep. Mark Pocan of Wisconsin suggested the country needed an “impeachment clock” to track how close the president was to being removed from office.

Pressure might also mount from the party’s liberal base, which has grown in size and relevance since Trump’s election, to call for impeachment.

One progressive leader called impeachment a “no-brainer.”

“Impeachment is the only way to stop Donald Trump, whose corruption and incompetence is placing our country in greater danger with each passing day,” said Charles Chamberlain, executive director of Democracy for America.

Still, some Democrats expressed skepticism that impeachment is the right move for the party. Tom Perez, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, stuck to his message that a special, independent investigation is needed.

“This is why we need a special prosecutor,” he said. “The evidence is mounting by the day. But as long as Republicans continue putting party over country, justice will never be served. Make no mistake: Their complacency is complicity, and history will remember them as cowards.”

The problem, these more wary Democrats argue, is that so much of the playing field during next year’s midterm elections is in states or districts favorable to Trump.

Senate Democrats must defend 10 states that Trump won during last year’s election.

“Voting for a check on Trump is one thing,” said one national Democratic strategist, granted anonymity to speak candidly about party strategy. “But if a vote for a check on the president . . . becomes a de facto vote for an impeachment trial, the task in front of us will only get more difficult.”

Another operative said he expects that the House GOP’s health care bill – the American Health Care Act – still would play a bigger role in next year’s midterm elections.

“Health care remains the most personal issue facing voters,” he said. “Until that’s taken off the table completely, it’s hard to see how that doesn’t motivate the backlash.”

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article150938202.html#storylink=cpy

Personally I don't think it matters. Even they do impeach Trump (for absolutely nothing) it will politically backfire on them BIG TIME. We just saw it with the last election. The people will speak even louder in 2018.

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Re: Impeachment
« Reply #272 on: May 17, 2017, 10:07:26 PM »
Personally I don't think it matters. Even they do impeach Trump (for absolutely nothing) it will politically backfire on them BIG TIME. We just saw it with the last election. The people will speak even louder in 2018.

Didn't hurt the Republicans when they impeached Clinton. Got GWB two terms after that.

Besides. So what? It just brings in Pence, who is much better equipped to do the job.

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« Reply #273 on: May 18, 2017, 04:19:00 PM »
Embarrassing. 


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« Reply #274 on: May 29, 2017, 01:46:44 PM »
Maxine Waters: American Public ‘Getting Weary’ That Trump Not Impeached Yet
by PAM KEY
28 May 2017

Sunday on MSNBC’s “AM Joy,” Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) said the public was “getting weary” that Democrats have not done enough to begin the process of impeaching President Donald Trump.

Partial transcript as follows:

REID: Congresswoman, on the subject of being more aggressive, you have openly talked about the fact that this president has put himself in a position where impeachment is on the table but your party, the Democratic party is very reluctant, The New York Times has an article out last week about how hesitant Democratic leadership, in particular, are to call for Donald Trump’s impeachment. In closing, why do you suppose that is?

WATERS: I don’t know what the reticent is but I know this, that the American public is getting weary of all of these actions without enough being done by the elected officials who they elected to represent them. I believe that this man has done enough for us to determine that we can connect the dots, that we can get the facts that will lead to impeachment. I believe there was collusion. I think we have enough information about the meetings, the about the lying about those meetings to help us to understand that something was going on. There was an interaction there. And certainly I believe it was collusion, but if they just do their work and do their job, they will find out it was collusion. And I believe this president should be impeached. I don’t care what others say about ‘it’s too soon, we don’t know, we think.’ I think that they’re letting the American public down by not delving deeper into what is going on with Jared Kushner and this back channeling, about the lies and his failure to disclose he had had these meetings, the same thing with sessions, failure to disclose about the meetings. What more do we need?

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/05/28/maxine-waters-american-public-getting-weary-that-trump-not-impeached-yet/