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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #75 on: May 19, 2013, 06:04:31 AM »
No I merely reflected back to you what you believe.  I don't believe in bi-polar, that's something you believe in.  If you perceive your Mother in such a negative way you obviously have a poor relationship with your Mother.  You don't need to be a psychiatrist to know that a son's relationship with their Mother is of vital importance in overall character development.  Rather than suggest your Mother is mentally Ill, she more than likely lacks quality character traits that lead to a balanced personality.  It would have been hard for you to not pick these traits up. (for eg.  Your hypersensitivity & over-reactivity).  What people refer to as mental illness is usually just a case of a shitty personality.


No man, i lead a normal life , and i'm a well balanced person. You sound like a fucking obese middle aged house wife f.aggot.


DON'T REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE OR TALK ABOUT ME AGAIN. FUCKING CREEP.  


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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #76 on: May 19, 2013, 06:06:50 AM »
I also dated a bipolar chick off and on for three years and it is no doubt, authentic. The wild part is that she has a master's degree in psychology.

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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #77 on: May 19, 2013, 06:08:04 AM »
I also dated a bipolar chick off and on for three years and it is no doubt, authentic. The wild part is that she has a master's degree in psychology.

Most people with psychological disorders go int the mental health field...they're trying to self fix. Never works.

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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #78 on: May 19, 2013, 06:08:59 AM »
Totally real. Not a lot of fun to deal with, either.

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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #79 on: May 19, 2013, 06:11:38 AM »
So axis III diagnosis is ok ifit stems from a physical cause leading to a phycological disorder...but you claim Axis I and II are made up bullshit....so depression, anxiety, all the personality disorders are invented to sell Prozac Xanax Zoloft got it....

Catatonics are just faking it.....manic states on bipolars is red bull induced. And having Jesus speak to you on radio channel 98.9 is a miracle of the burning bush variety...

By the way nice analysing Psychos Freudian mother complex. Oh the hypocrisy is strong with this one....
I'm not analysing anybody, Psychopath clearly stated he thought his Mother was a bitch, he obviously has issues with his Mother.  Just because I don't believe in mental illness, doesn't mean I am not practical.   Poor relationships lead to stress, stress leads to poor functioning.  Which you like to call depression, anxiety etc  These types of emotions are normal reactions to shitty environments.  You take a LION from the wild and put him in a cage, he shows signs of stress, anxiety etc.  is the LION mentally ill, of course not, this is a normal reaction to a shitty environment.

Not everybody is equipped to cope with such an unnatural environment, many people live in poor conditions, have terrible relationships and few resources, this is not the way humans are supposed to live.  People who react poorly to this are just showing normal reactions to shitty environments.  When they first started investigating Schizophrenia, they discovered, the problem was almost always the family of origin, treating the individual like shit.  Human beings aren't designed to cope with being treated like shit for long periods of time.

Anyway DR. OZ, why are you so defensive of the Psychiatric profession, are you making a fortune of conning people into believing they are mentally ill.  Any profession that labelled slaves running away as mentally ill or homosexuality a mental illness has a lot to answer for.  Psychiatry is an extension of the law, can you imagine someone involuntary locking you up if you were diagnosed with Cancer and refused treatment.  Psychiatry has harmed far more people than it has ever helped.  This is a simple fact.
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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #80 on: May 19, 2013, 06:12:43 AM »

No man, i lead a normal life , and i'm a well balanced person. You sound like a fucking obese middle aged house wife f.aggot.


DON'T REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE OR TALK ABOUT ME AGAIN. FUCKING CREEP.  


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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #81 on: May 19, 2013, 06:15:39 AM »
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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #82 on: May 19, 2013, 06:24:55 AM »
I'm not analysing anybody, Psychopath clearly stated he thought his Mother was a bitch, he obviously has issues with his Mother.  Just because I don't believe in mental illness, doesn't mean I am not practical.   Poor relationships lead to stress, stress leads to poor functioning.  Which you like to call depression, anxiety etc  These types of emotions are normal reactions to shitty environments.  You take a LION from the wild and put him in a cage, he shows signs of stress, anxiety etc.  is the LION mentally ill, of course not, this is a normal reaction to a shitty environment.

Not everybody is equipped to cope with such an unnatural environment, many people live in poor conditions, have terrible relationships and few resources, this is not the way humans are supposed to live.  People who react poorly to this are just showing normal reactions to shitty environments.  When they first started investigating Schizophrenia, they discovered, the problem was almost always the family of origin, treating the individual like shit.  Human beings aren't designed to cope with being treated like shit for long periods of time.

Anyway DR. OZ, why are you so defensive of the Psychiatric profession, are you making a fortune of conning people into believing they are mentally ill.  Any profession that labelled slaves running away as mentally ill or homosexuality a mental illness has a lot to answer for.  Psychiatry is an extension of the law, can you imagine someone involuntary locking you up if you were diagnosed with Cancer and refused treatment.  Psychiatry has harmed far more people than it has ever helped.  This is a simple fact.

When I reclassified from 11H (heavy anti armor weapons infantryman) in the army to 91B (medical specialist)I was given a choice to to continue and become a 91G (behavioral science specialist) which I regretfully accepted. So no I don't receive compensation, but I'm not ignorant enough to dismiss something by reading a book or some blogs online. I left psychology after less than one year of working in the field. I preferred anything other than....went back to being a medic till I ETS'ed.

Mental illness exists and is real...stating otherwise is ignorant and selfish. Schizophrenia is genetic and passed down....your lack of knowledge in this field is willfully ignorant. And I see you glossed over catatonics and manic stages of bipolar...well whatever makes your argument framed for your self benefit. LOL

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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #83 on: May 19, 2013, 06:36:44 AM »
When I reclassified from 11H (heavy anti armor weapons infantryman) in the army to 91B (medical specialist)I was given a choice to to continue and become a 91G (behavioral science specialist) which I regretfully accepted. So no I don't receive compensation, but I'm not ignorant enough to dismiss something by reading a book or some blogs online. I left psychology after less than one year of working in the field. I preferred anything other than....went back to being a medic till I ETS'ed.

Mental illness exists and is real...stating otherwise is ignorant and selfish. Schizophrenia is genetic and passed down....your lack of knowledge in this field is willfully ignorant. And I see you glossed over catatonics and manic stages of bipolar...well whatever makes your argument framed for your self benefit. LOL
I don't really want to get into it, but catatonia is simply a state of extreme fear, literally scared stiff, you see this behaviour in the animal kingdom all the time when animals are presented with a serious threat (and nobody labels them schizophrenics).  Life is scary and for some people they literally freeze up with fear.  

As for manic phases, some people get extreme bouts of motivation and creativity, it may well be outside of the usual range for the majority, but what's wrong with that, if they aren't harming anybody.  Mania is associated with extreme creativity in many famous artists, some people resist societies efforts to force them into a repetitive monotonous routines, these people probably experience more mania than most.  There are also more than likely dietary and drug reactions involved as well.  But what's wrong with Mania.  And I dare say, If you explore humans evolution, manic phases would have been crucial to our survival.

And as for calling people who label Psychiatry as a fraud as ignorant, just show some proof.  If I went to the doctor and he said I had cancer, and he could test me and show me undeniable proof of what I have, then why can't psychiatrists do this.

In spite of over a hundred years of research and many billions of dollars spent, we still have no clear evidence that schizophrenia and other related psychotic disorders are the result of a diseased brain.  And yet, anyone who takes a close look at the actual research will simply not be able to honestly say otherwise. And not only does the brain disease hypothesis remain unsubstantiated, it has been directly countered by very well established findings within the recovery research, it has demonstrated itself to be particularly harmful to those so diagnosed (often leading to a self-fulfilling prophecy), and is highly profitable to the pharmaceutical and psychiatric industries (which likely plays a major role in why it has remained so deeply entrenched in society for so many years, in spite of our inability to validate it).

I think if you look at the history of psychiatry , such as labelling black slaves who ran away as suffering from drapetomania, you will get a real indication of what psychiatry is all about.  It's a control mechanism to get people to conform to a rigid societal structure.

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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #84 on: May 19, 2013, 07:48:15 AM »
More Bullshit from the drug dealers who call themselves Doctors! Life has its ups and downs and your suppose to feel life not shut your mind and sould down with drugs!

You're an idiot, shut up.

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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #85 on: May 19, 2013, 08:12:56 AM »
Two words, "Cartman" and "Tourettes".

It is a certainty that a medical problem or disorder may be a reason for misbehavior but it's by no means an excuse which is what the majority of people will be using this latest medical "revelation" for.


This will undoubtedly be the new ADHD.  Pharmacological companies and attorneys should never have been allowed to advertise.  Cigarette companies were taken out prior to the rise of the peddlers and ambalance chasers. 

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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #86 on: May 19, 2013, 08:45:03 AM »
Totally real. Not a lot of fun to deal with, either.
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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #87 on: May 19, 2013, 08:45:08 AM »
Guys on here arguing about who's right with regard to mental illness diagnosis.    ;D

Its like the two smelly kids in school arguing over who stinks the most/least.

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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #88 on: May 19, 2013, 08:48:30 AM »
Life is tough deal with it and grow Stronger!
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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #89 on: May 19, 2013, 09:50:04 AM »

If the chemicals in our brains become imbalanced, then we have problems.

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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #90 on: May 19, 2013, 10:16:30 AM »
what if someone had that tourettes disorder where they couldn't stop swearing or making involuntary movements? that's just made up too?

That's totally different is not a growing "decease " plus people who suffer from it really go thru embarrassing situations. 

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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #91 on: May 19, 2013, 10:18:32 AM »
Interesting thread, and great points made by most..E-Kul is right on point with his thoughts, but they are not practical for society today...We must all remain productive...Schizophren ics were shamans back in the day which was a well respected "career" , but there is no place for that in today's world..

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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #92 on: May 19, 2013, 10:28:52 AM »
That's totally different is not a growing "decease " plus people who suffer from it really go thru embarrassing situations. 

yeah, cuz I was gonna say who would even try to fake tourettes. those people get made fun of more than any other illness on tv. pretty much gurantee you won't have any relationships,

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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #93 on: May 19, 2013, 11:37:56 AM »
Interesting thread, and great points made by most..E-Kul is right on point with his thoughts, but they are not practical for society today...We must all remain productive...Schizophren ics were shamans back in the day which was a well respected "career" , but there is no place for that in today's world..
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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #94 on: May 19, 2013, 12:37:03 PM »
yeah, cuz I was gonna say who would even try to fake tourettes. those people get made fun of more than any other illness on tv. pretty much gurantee you won't have any relationships,

Imagine two folks in a relationship, both with Tourette's syndrome. I think it would be better than a couple where they both have Bi-polar disorder, narcissistic personality disorder, or schizophrenia. Everyone is a little nuts sometimes....that I can live with.

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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #95 on: May 19, 2013, 12:44:27 PM »
Psychiatry is hardly an exact science but crazy people still exist.


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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #97 on: May 19, 2013, 01:00:32 PM »
Psychiatry is hardly an exact science but crazy people still exist.

More than you know.

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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
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Re: Do you really believe in Bipolar as a legit illness?
« Reply #99 on: May 19, 2013, 01:15:18 PM »
There is no such thing as 'NORMAL', Normal is a cycle on a washing machine.  That's the whole point, that's why Mental Illness is such bunk, they are trying to fit everyone into a box.

I like your analogy of what is normal. Mental illness is not bunk though.

My aunt was schizophrenic. She gave up her apartment to live on the streets in Venice Beach and sometimes Hollywood, CA, by choice. The interesting thing is she lived longer than all of her siblings....guess there is something to be said for street life in the right climate. Being crazy probably helps a little too.

She was my favorite aunt. She could be a lot of fun to be around. In good times, she was quite the free spirit. She didn't much like it when she was institutionalized at the California state mental hospital in Camarillo or in the West L.A. VA hospital psyche ward, mainly because they'd drug her up and she'd lose all her energy. She died a few years ago. She was 84 years old.