George Zimmerman - Attorneys release pictures from Trayvon Martin's cellphone

[Soul Crusher]

Trayvon was going to end up dead by 20 regardless.  at least he did not add to Obama's vote tally  

it looks like he was losing a fight and then he shot the kid.

The Q is - DID HE START THE FIGHT?

THAT is the most important question.  There is no evidence that Trayvon started the fight.  There is no evidence that Zimmerman started the fight.  Zero.  Nobody saw it.

And that's common in many cases... I can chase a dude into an alley and shoot him 50 times... and then just claim self-defense lol... doesn't fly.

The jury will look at the events leading up to the shooting and make their best guess who started the fight, and they'll decide.  Juries convict all the time without video/eyewitness of who did what, when one guy is dead.  THis time, they have zimm saying "he's running away" while pursuing him. 

he'll plead to 8 to 12 years.

[240 is Back]

Trayvon was going to end up dead by 20 regardless.  at least he did not add to Obama's vote tally 

Doesn't matter if Trayvon was a murderer or an altar boy.

You cannot chase a person two blocks with a gun *then one of them started the fight* then shoot the kid. 

Any attack on trayvon's character is laughable... it means they don't want to talk about what ZImmerman did.  his own words sentence him here.  He admitted trayvon was running away, and that he was running after him.

[The True Adonis]

Doesn't matter if Trayvon was a murderer or an altar boy.

You cannot chase a person two blocks with a gun *then one of them started the fight* then shoot the kid.  

Any attack on trayvon's character is laughable... it means they don't want to talk about what ZImmerman did.  his own words sentence him here. He admitted trayvon was running away, and that he was running after him.

Trayvon couldn`t outrun fat Zimmerman?  


You know thats not what happened. Trayvon confronted Zimmerman.

[Radical Plato]

Projection

It has nothing to do with projection.  As a matter of fact, Gun owners openly admit they feel they need for a gun because they are afraid of criminals, home invasion or a tyrannical government.  They openly admit this.  You can pretend you own a gun because it looks cool and shiny.  But at the end of the day you aren't fooling anyone.  Your just as afraid of the rest of the Gun owners, and i would say, judging by your desperate fear of losing the right, more afraid than most.

[Radical Plato]

Doesn't matter if Trayvon was a murderer or an altar boy.

You cannot chase a person two blocks with a gun *then one of them started the fight* then shoot the kid.  

Any attack on trayvon's character is laughable... it means they don't want to talk about what ZImmerman did.  his own words sentence him here.  He admitted trayvon was running away, and that he was running after him.

It really is pointless, you are arguing against deeply ingrained unconscious racism.  The fact Zimmerman wasn't arrested straight away is due to systemic racism, and if he gets off the charges it will be for the very fact that racism is so ingrained in American culture, that they now endorse the profiling, stalking and shooting of a defenceless unarmed black teenager for the crime of walking at night in Public.

If Trayvon was a pretty all american 15 year old teenage girl, they would be screaming to hang Zimmerpig from the RAFTERS.  But Zimmerpig happened to commit the crime of being a NIGG@

[NarcissisticDeity]

It has nothing to do with projection.  As a matter of fact, Gun owners openly admit they feel they need for a gun because they are afraid of criminals, home invasion or a tyrannical government.  They openly admit this.  You can pretend you own a gun because it looks cool and shiny.  But at the end of the day you aren't fooling anyone.  Your just as afraid of the rest of the Gun owners, and i would say, judging by your desperate fear of losing the right, more afraid than most.

More projection. keep trying to ban things that scare you maybe one day you you'll stop being scared.

[NarcissisticDeity]

It really is pointless, you are arguing against deeply ingrained unconscious racism.  The fact Zimmerman wasn't arrested straight away is due to systemic racism, and if he gets off the charges it will be for the very fact that racism is so ingrained in American culture, that they now endorse the profiling, stalking and shooting of a defenceless unarmed black teenager for the crime of walking at night in Public.

If Trayvon was a pretty all american 15 year old teenage girl, they would be screaming to hang Zimmerpig from the RAFTERS.  But Zimmerpig happened to commit the crime of being a NIGG@

Jesus this posts says a lot about you. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Poor Trayvon and his gun 

[Radical Plato]

More projection. keep trying to ban things that scare you maybe one day you you'll stop being scared.

Unlike you, who seems to have a great deal of trouble admitting their own fear.  I have no such trouble.  There are most definitely things that scare me, but not having the right to own a gun isn't one of them.  People don't lobby to regulate things and create laws because of fear.  It's due to self preservation.  If everyone is entitled to drive as fast as they want and as drunk as they want, this increases the chances of every citizen to be injured or killed.  So society agree to BAN those particular behaviours.  People don't live in fear of being in a car accident, they merely want to preserve their health and safety.  They are simply decreasing the odds of serious injury or fatality. This is called common sense, which sadly, a lot of gun lovers lack.

 What you are arguing for is an elimination of laws, an anarchy of sorts.  Which I am all for, and guns in such a society would make a perfect amount of sense.  But in a civilised society whereby everybody is agreeing by a particular set of rules and obligations, mass gun ownership increases ones chances of being injured or killed, so it makes more sense from a self preservation perspective to ban them or at the very least regulate them heavily.  Guns make sense in a lawless society, but not in a heavily regulated one.

[Radical Plato]

Jesus this posts says a lot about you.  

You closet KKK members aren't fooling anyone (except maybe yourselves).  We all know that Trayvon was a bad Nigg@ that night, he didn't know his place, he didn't even have the right to confront a suspicious armed man who was stalking him.  Good Nigg@s know their place and would never dare try such a thing.  because he did, he got punished the way every disobedient Nigg@ should.  

[chaos]

he's guilty chaos

Of what? Why? It's cause he's mexican isn't it, racistj.

[NarcissisticDeity]

You closet KKK members aren't fooling anyone (except maybe yourselves)

When things aren't going your way call someone a racist lol you certainly played your hand. 

Keep outing yourself with each post , can't wait for your big meltdown and your exit from GetBig , I've seen a lot of them come and go and you're ripe.

[Radical Plato]

When things aren't going your way call someone a racist lol you certainly played your hand.  

Keep outing yourself with each post , can't wait for your big meltdown and your exit from GetBig , I've seen a lot of them come and go and you're ripe.

I never felt things weren't going my way.  I don't even really know what you mean by that.  I am simply stating my opinion.  I have always said this is about race.  It is so obvious to anyone who isn't racist it's not funny.  I don't think you could get a clearer cut case of racism.  But I imagine, if you are raised in racist surroundings, where racism is considered normal, and the racists are blind to their racism, it doesn't surprise me that you don't see it.  From the Zimmerpigs profiling, to the lack of arrest to the constant defamation of Trayvons character in the media, to the overt support of George by radical racist groups.  That's why it is called systemic, it runs so deeply through the system as to be unanimously accepted and approved of that it isn't even seen as abnormal or problematic.

There are only two groups of people that would openly support someone of such low character as george Zimmerman, a man who molested his cousin for a decade, bullied and harassed his work mate, beat his fiancée, assaulted a policemen and now murdered a young man.  Those two type of people are racists and Gun Nutters, and the most virulent and vocal of those who combine the two, and those are the RACIST GUN NUTTERS.

Racists support the molester George because they like to see Black Men Killed
And Gun Nutters support George because they support Conceal and Carry and don't want fat fuck Zimmerpig to fuck things up for them, so an acquittal is in their best interests.

[The True Adonis]

E-Kul wants to legalize assault.

[Radical Plato]

E-Kul wants to legalize assault.

Well, if George gets acquitted, not only will assault be legal, but profiling, stalking and then murdering black teens committing the crime of walking in public will now be legal.

Every Racists pigs dreams come true all at once.

Personally, I would prefer to take my chances with unarmed teenagers with a recently purchased bag of skittles than an armed paranoid do-gooder stalking the neighbourhood intent on not letting innocent people get away.

Teenagers and Skittles don't scare me, Child molesting, women  beating, police assaulting armed criminals like George Zimmerman intent on hunting down unarmed civilians going about their business scares me.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I never felt things weren't going my way.  I don't even really know what you mean by that.  I am simply stating my opinion.  I have always said this is about race.  It is so obvious to anyone who isn't racist it's not funny.  I don't think you could get a clearer cut case of racism.  But I imagine, if you are raised in racist surroundings, where racism is considered normal, and the racists are blind to their racism, it doesn't surprise me that you don't see it.  From the Zimmerpigs profiling, to the lack of arrest to the constant defamation of Trayvons character in the media, to the overt support of George by radical racist groups.  That's why it is called systemic, it runs so deeply through the system as to be unanimously accepted and approved of that it isn't even seen as abnormal or problematic.

There are only two groups of people that would openly support someone of such low character as george Zimmerman, a man who molested his cousin for a decade, bullied and harassed his work mate, beat his fiancée, assaulted a policemen and now murdered a young man.  Those two type of people are racists and Gun Nutters, and the most virulent and vocal of those who combine the two, and those are the RACIST GUN NUTTERS.

Racists support the molester George because they like to see Black Men Killed
And Gun Nutters support George because they support Conceal and Carry and don't want fat fuck Zimmerpig to fuck things up for them, so an acquittal is in their best interests.

Look at you , spouting nonsense , going back and adding to it lol you're melting left-and-right 

[CARTEL]

What's wrong with profiling?

Should people go to Watts to look for Skinheads?

Or go to a Hell's Angels Club to look for Crips?

[240 is Back]

It is believed ZImmerman was playing yard ninja to intercept trayvon. 

makes sense... trayvon running on a beeline for his GF's house.  Zimmerman sees him turn and, being the armed neighborhood watch guy, cuts thru the yard.

Unless we want to believe that *suddenly*, inside of 60 seconds, Zimm goes from being the man chasing and calling him punk and a-hole, into a scared innocent guy... and Trayvon went from kid running away to monster attacker - both at the same time?

LOL... it's not believable.

[Radical Plato]

What's wrong with profiling?

Should people go to Watts to look for Skinheads?

Or go to a Hell's Angels Club to look for Crips?

So, you're OK with me determining that you are suspicious, giving chase, detaining you and if you challenge me shooting you to death.  I suppose if you are prepared to die for going about your business, then their is nothing wrong with profiling.

America must be different, over here in Australia people mind their own business.  The act of stalking around the neighbourhood and ringing the Police to report suspicious activity would be considered a dog act.  Australians don't like 'DOBBERS', even the Police don't treally like DOBBERS, this goes right through the whole Australian culture.  Just the fact the average American finds Georges behaviour normal is kind of frightening.  it sounds like a country full of paranoid scaredy cats.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Well, if George gets acquitted, not only will assault be legal, but profiling, stalking and then murdering black teens committing the crime of walking in public will now be legal.

Every Racists pigs dreams come true all at once.

Personally, I would prefer to take my chances with unarmed teenagers with a recently purchased bag of skittles than an armed paranoid do-gooder stalking the neighbourhood intent on not letting innocent people get away.

Teenagers and Skittles don't scare me, Child molesting, women  beating, police assaulting armed criminals like George Zimmerman intent on hunting down unarmed civilians going about their business scares me.

Neat how you label anyone who doesn't agree with your version of the story a racist , definitely more projection on your behalf , I never took side in this story because I wasn't there and don't have a clue what took place and I'm smart enough to know the media gets shit wrong most of the time so trusting their version isn't wise.

Keep up your tirade you're getting closer and closer to a full blown textbook GetBig meltdown  frantically adding and amending your posts , labeling anyone who doesn't agree with you racist  lol keep driving down that road 

[chaos]

It is believed ZImmerman was playing yard ninja to intercept trayvon. 

makes sense... trayvon running on a beeline for his GF's house.  Zimmerman sees him turn and, being the armed neighborhood watch guy, cuts thru the yard.

Unless we want to believe that *suddenly*, inside of 60 seconds, Zimm goes from being the man chasing and calling him punk and a-hole, into a scared innocent guy... and Trayvon went from kid running away to monster attacker - both at the same time?

LOL... it's not believable.

So he's guilty because he called him a punk and an asshole? How do you know the kid didn't hear that being said, squared up and attacked the guy?

Wait, you were there, you know the facts.

[240 is Back]

I dont care about zimm's motivation.  I don't care about race.  

Armed adult chased unarmed minor two blocks, and kid committed no crime.  Police were already on their way (again, for no reason).   Zimm wanted that confrontation himself

And he cut thru the yards to catch the kid, and there was a fight between the angry chaser mumbling slurs and accusations VS the unarmed kid who had committed to crime who had already run 2 blocks to get away from armed guy.



Yeah... I can see why defense is attacking trayvon's reputation... the evidence from that day, the 911 tape, aren't something they want to address...

[240 is Back]

So he's guilty because he called him a punk and an asshole? How do you know the kid didn't hear that being said, squared up and attacked the guy?

Wait, you were there, you know the facts.

Nobody was there.  Jurors have to look at the 911 tape and location of body, and make a decision.  What do they think happened...   

[Radical Plato]

Neat how you label anyone who doesn't agree with your version of the story a racist , definitely more projection on your behalf , I never took side in this story because I wasn't there and don't have a clue what took place and I'm smart enough to know the media gets shit wrong most of the time so trusting their version isn't wise.

Keep up your tirade you're getting closer and closer to a full blown textbook GetBig meltdown   frantically adding and amending your posts , labeling anyone who doesn't agree with you racist  lol keep driving down that road  

I wasnt there either, but I didn't need to be.  George admitted he killed an innocent guy.  It turns out a guy who was simply walking home from the shops.  It doesn't matter who started the scuffle that led to the fatal shot, the whole situation was created by Georges poor judgement.  The guy wasn't suspicious, that was just Georges paranoia and more than likely racial profiling and excessive fear coupled with being on powerful pyschatric drugs like Benzos and Adderall. (the guy was a serial pest, ringing 911 over 50 times, even reporting children as young as 7 riding their bike, never once was a crime determined from one of these calls, Georges ability to spot criminal behaviour is definitely in question).  So for me, it doesn't matter what you call it, murder, homocide, death by negligience whatever..  The fact remains George killed an innocent teenager and for that fact alone should be locked away from society until he is rehabilitated and no longer a threat to innocent civilians.

I don't  care if they say he is guilty of the crime of being the worlds greatest moron, whatever it is you choose to call his actions, they are not suited to living in a civilised society and he needs to be incarcerated because of it.  I know I prefer my chances against the unarmed teen with skittles than the George Zimmerpigs of the world.

[CARTEL]

So, you're OK with me determining that you are suspicious, giving chase, detaining you and if you challenge me shooting you to death.  I suppose if you are prepared to die for going about your business, then their is nothing wrong with profiling.

America must be different, over here in Australia people mind their own business.  The act of stalking around the neighbourhood and ringing the Police to report suspicious activity would be considered a dog act.  Australians don't like 'DOBBERS', even the Police don't treally like DOBBERS, this goes right through the whole Australian culture.  Just the fact the average American finds Georges behaviour normal is kind of frightening.  it sounds like a country full of paranoid scaredy cats.

So profiling means chasing people down and killing them to you?